Nitrous n00b

SlicK · 09-08-2006, 04:00 PM

I don't know **** about nitrous systems. I know how they work and stuff like that, but as far as what I need for one, I'm lost. I was thinking about getting one and I was wondering which one on MT here would be the best. I've only heard good things about NX but there are like 3 different systems and I'm not sure if one comes with something better or w/e. Also, I was wondering what I would need as far as engine upgrades so I don't break ****. I'm not looking to do 100 shot but I know I'll need some high-flow injectors (I'm going with the 42lb) and what else am I going to need?

cuban3jumper · 09-08-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SlicK

I don't know **** about nitrous systems. I know how they work and stuff like that, but as far as what I need for one, I'm lost. I was thinking about getting one and I was wondering which one on MT here would be the best. I've only heard good things about NX but there are like 3 different systems and I'm not sure if one comes with something better or w/e. Also, I was wondering what I would need as far as engine upgrades so I don't break ****. I'm not looking to do 100 shot but I know I'll need some high-flow injectors (I'm going with the 42lb) and what else am I going to need?

If you get a wet kit (NX) you won't need new injecters. I'm pretty sure there is a nitrous sticky in the power adders section check it out.

SlicK · 09-08-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cuban3jumper

If you get a wet kit (NX) you won't need new injecters. I'm pretty sure there is a nitrous sticky in the power adders section check it out.

I was planning on getting dry because of the cost difference.

I checked on that stickey and it didn't quite answer all of my questions. Also, most of the kits say they're compatible with V8 only so I'm wondering if their's a way to modify them safely to make them fit on the Sixer. I didn't know if I needed new pistons or anything like that. Fuel pump etc. I'm not planning on using any higher than 50 shot.

cuban3jumper · 09-08-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SlicK

I was planning on getting dry because of the cost difference.

I checked on that stickey and it didn't quite answer all of my questions. Also, most of the kits say they're compatible with V8 only so I'm wondering if their's a way to modify them safely to make them fit on the Sixer. I didn't know if I needed new pistons or anything like that. Fuel pump etc. I'm not planning on using any higher than 50 shot.

Don't go dry get a wet kit. They're safer and better all around especially for a noob like you and me. I just got my NX mainline kit installed and tuned yesterday.

Most kits are marketed mostly towards V8's. Although I know the NX kits are the same for all fords just the jetting is different depending on the car/engine. You can run a 75 on a daily driver perfectly fine if you tune it correctly (dyno tune). You don't need a new fuel pump or injecters or pistons or anything like that. Although I would recommend a fuel pressure safety switch and some kind of WOT switch (most kits come with a WOT switch included). Swap plugs to one or two stages colder and gap them to .035". Best idea I can give you is call NX and let them know what you want they will help you and they know their ****

SlicK · 09-08-2006, 05:43 PM

Thanks tons. I'll probably give them a call and see what I can get.

cuban3jumper · 09-08-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SlicK

Thanks tons. I'll probably give them a call and see what I can get.

No problem good luck with it.

SlicK · 09-08-2006, 06:37 PM

I'm tryin' to be extra cautious because this car is my daily driver and it's got over 80k on it and if it breaks, I break. I don't have any other way of getting to work so I'm F'ed in the A if I break somethin'.

spike_africa · 09-10-2006, 06:20 PM

a simple 75wet shot from any kit will be fine and really doesnt need anything else to be run. a tune window swtich etc.. is great and all but for small shots like that you really dont need one. Also there are alot of companys out there so dont think its just NX that makes kits.

Justin@VMP · 09-11-2006, 05:53 AM

The problem with running N2O without a tune is that you can end up with a ton of spark. The stock spark curve at WOT is usually not very agressive at all if the car was designed to run 87 from the factory, but at part throttle there can be 25-35* of spark. When you spray nitrous after the maf the calculated engine load goes down, because the MAF is not metering as much air any more (because the bottle is supplying a lot of air to the engine). So calculated load goes down, you move to a different spot in the spark table with more timing, and spark goes up. With a 50 or 75 shot you *probably* won't have a problem though.

I would get a wet kit, bottle heater, and rpm window switch.

SlicK · 09-12-2006, 04:05 PM

Thanks for the advice guys. I've been looking around and have a few in mind.

spike_africa · 09-13-2006, 05:28 AM

Just find a wet kit that fits your price rang and go with it. Almost every company out now makes solid kits. There are little difference between them all. Well not to small but for small shots it doesnt matter.

I would say search around you can find highly different prices over the net on parts.

09-10-2006, 06:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,413	a simple 75wet shot from any kit will be fine and really doesnt need anything else to be run. a tune window swtich etc.. is great and all but for small shots like that you really dont need one. Also there are alot of companys out there so dont think its just NX that makes kits. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

09-11-2006, 05:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
Justin@VMP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 40	The problem with running N2O without a tune is that you can end up with a ton of spark. The stock spark curve at WOT is usually not very agressive at all if the car was designed to run 87 from the factory, but at part throttle there can be 25-35* of spark. When you spray nitrous after the maf the calculated engine load goes down, because the MAF is not metering as much air any more (because the bottle is supplying a lot of air to the engine). So calculated load goes down, you move to a different spot in the spark table with more timing, and spark goes up. With a 50 or 75 shot you probably won't have a problem though. I would get a wet kit, bottle heater, and rpm window switch. __________________ Justin Starkey 2006 F250 CC 4x4 6.0L - 14.3@93 2000 Mustang 3.8 A4 - VMP TT Kit 450RWHP/475RWTQ@17psi & 10.9@127.8 1.74 60ft@17psi stock motor Wife's car 2006 Mustang 4.0L M5 Vortech 14psi 350rwhp http://www.vmptuning.com - Mobile Dyno-jet 224x, custom SCT Tuning

09-13-2006, 05:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,413	Just find a wet kit that fits your price rang and go with it. Almost every company out now makes solid kits. There are little difference between them all. Well not to small but for small shots it doesnt matter. I would say search around you can find highly different prices over the net on parts. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

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