matrixpuba

1st- did procharger fix the leaky seal problems they had before?
2nd- is it true that the procharger makes more hp and tq across the rpm range compared to vortech and paxton?
3rd-is the oil for the procharger expensive?
4th- will the p-1sc be enough if next year i upgrade the internals to make around 500hp at the wheels?
5th- are they louder than the s or t trim from vortech?
6th- are you happy with their product?
looks like i might be going a different route so if anyone could help me before friday morning that would be great.
thanks in advance

foncarelli

First of all, i discovered that the seal wasnt leaking. It was actually the power steering fluid slowly leaking on the belts. The fluids are so similar, that i really thought it was the seal.

I think the only reason it does make more hp/tq is because of the intercooler, it is a much better design than the ones that are available for the other brands. Also, i think the numbers are based on the fact that Paxton/Vortech are not using a intercooler anyway.

As soon as you turn in the warranty card, they automatically give you like a case of that oil. It lasts a long time anyway.

You will have to upgrade to a D1SC to turn those type of numbers unless you get 2.90 pulley... and that would be pushing it. The D1SC is better anyway. No leaking seals and a different impeller design.

I have heard an S trim from and a distance and they are pretty loud. I think they are about the same actually. You can always get a better blow off/by pass valve if you want louder.

Their product is ok. Even better with the D1SC. I really believe turbo is the way to go. No belt slip.

Hope this helps,
Alphonso aka foncarelli

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whitethunder46

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Never had any experience with a blower, but do have some people around me with Procharger's.

IF you are planning on forging internals, IMO do it right: Forge first, then go straight to the D-1sc. D-1sc much better than the P-1sc without the leaky problems.

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01GTBlown

1st - mine leaked but it was due to a defective drain plug, and i called them up and they sent it out to me free of charge
2nd - the hp and tq across was true on mine, i haven't been able to find my dyno sheet for the last 4 months or else i would post it up, but i might be going to get a dyno in a month or sooner with my friends porsche - hit me up later if you remember
3rd - you get 3 little bottles for $20 i think is what i paid. You'll use i think 7/8ths of the bottle and its good for every 6k miles (change mine every 4k)
4th - definately go with a D1sc if you plan on doing 500hp
5th - mine is pretty loud but i haven't heard any other sc's up close
6th - im happy with mine and their service...

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matrixpuba

thanks everyone. i am waiting on a price quote at the moment. if he gets his numbers right i will get it. i had them install different cams other than the stage 2 cams too

Stangdude27

I've never had a seal issue. I make good power with 13psi thru the 3 core intercooler. You can get to 450 easily with the P-1. My internals are being upgraded and I'm getting blower cams installed with it so next month when I get the car back I'll get it broke in and get tuned for my 2.9 pulley. I might see what the 3.4 pulley will net before I swap pulley's. Either way I was told I was making close to 450hp if I had a manual with my old set-up. Also when you get a procharger you should consider a powerpipe so you can gai more boost. 500hp is ery attainable but you need good internals before even considering cranking the boost.

Teal_Beast

1. i dont know
2. yes
3. no ~30$ for 3 bottles (if you buy the 3 pack)
4. yes
5. yes
6. yes, very

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01GTBlown

Where would you consider getting a power pipe? I haven't heard of anyone yet that produces power pipes for prochargers!

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WaterDR

I do NOT recomend Procharger. They make an inferior product. The blower is extremely inneficient which is why they all come with intercoolers. They break all the time.

I just happened to ask Kauffman Motorsports about them. Most of the guys at the shop USED to use Procharger, but not anymore. They sell them, but don't recomend them. Vortech, KB, Saleen, Roush, Paxton are all much better options.

I know my comments will cause a fight, but believe me, I researched the hell out of this. Prochargr makes the most inneficient blower on the market.

Vortech - Nice, reliable blower. Great selection for a street car or a car that also likes hitting the strip. Good for a DD. Quiet or loud versions available. You can't go wrong unless you have plans for big power later. Then, you will be looking to swap it out.

KB - Expensive but great blower. More response down low. Might be the best on the market, but you pay for it.

Paxton - About the most capable blower on the market. I know a reputable tuner that calls them "engine busters" because they can support 1000 hp. This is a blower that can grow with you as you enhance your car. Good for DD. You will hear this blower. Not really loud, but you will know it is their.

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matrixpuba

well the deal is done. procharger d-1sc, 90mm maf, 42lbs. 3 core intercooler, avator pump, cams, springs, and an sct tune. next summer forged internals and then the boost goes up. thanks for the help everyone

Teal_Beast

grats, you wont regret it

take care of the head unit though, dont be lazy when the time comes to chage oil etc

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Stangdude27

So you say! I don't want to get banned so I'll keep my comment to myself!

whitethunder46

Good summary. Paxton is usually referred to as more of a strip blower than the Vortech. Both can be used fine on a DD, but Vortech usually responds better for most guys on street.

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matrixpuba

i was told that the procharger is a little bit harder to tune. but i seen the dyno charts and everything equal the procharger made a bit more power across the board.

stevemainian

Ive heard nothing but positive things about procharger. I hope to have one by the end of the summer.