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#91

05-29-2006, 12:23 PM

SlicK

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Originally Posted by drw0392

I'm think I also am "see it to believe it kind of person" but remember, science can only test tangible theories. Unfortunately, science can neither prove, nor disprove the existence of a spirtual realm. That is why religion is based on faith.
Faith- (from wikipedia)-...in an aspect of the object and cannot be logically proven or objectively known. Faith can also be defined as accepting as true something which one has been told by someone who is believed to be trustworthy. It can also mean believing unconditionally. In its proper sense faith means trusting the word of another

I'm aware. I obviously don't have much faith, but I don't care if something has been disproven or not. I only believe in a few things that haven't been fully proven such as the law of gravity and Newton's laws. They haven't been proven, but they're considered scientific law.

#92

05-29-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SlicK

Could not have said it better myself. Outsourcing could single-handedly bring this country to its knees. If we rely on other country's workers to do out jobs, the unemployment rate will soar through the roof (not that it already hasn't) and the economy will eventually go right down the ****ter.

Dude, you couldn't be more wrong about our unemployment rate!!! Our unemployment rate is extremly low. The vast majority of the public, (and Obviously you) don't realize that unemployment is necessary for an economy. If everyone had a job, everyone would be earning, and spending money, driving prices through the roof. Inflation would be rampant. Why do you think that Ben Bernanke (Chair of the Federal Open Market Com.) has decided to raise interest rates again? Its because unemployment rates are very low, thus spurring high inflation rates. The raising of the interst rates is ment to slow the econmy down.:foot:

#93

05-29-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by drw0392

Unfortunately, science can neither prove, nor disprove the existence of a spirtual realm.

Its not that science can NOT prove/disprove, rather than it has yet to do so.

#94

05-29-2006, 12:29 PM

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how can you disprove something that doesn't exist?

the proof of science IS the disproof of a spiritual realm

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05-29-2006, 12:33 PM

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It is low compared to other countries. The fact that we are one of the most socially organized countries shows that we are always going to have a low % compared to everyone else. I do realize that if EVERYONE was working then inflation would become a problem and we would end up in another depression. If we have too many unemployed, we get other issues with our social structure, not to mention our economic status.

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05-29-2006, 12:33 PM

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Something can never be proven unequivocally
1. Scientific theory = a hypothesis supported by a great deal of evidence which stands the test of time, often tested and never rejected. E.g. theory of evolution

#97

05-29-2006, 12:37 PM

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I'm talking scientific law, not scientific theory.

Law: A rule that describes, but doesn't explain, a pattern in nature and predicts what will happen under specific conditions.

#98

05-29-2006, 12:37 PM

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how can you disprove something that doesn't exist?

the proof of science IS the disproof of a spiritual realm

Lol.... that is a side effect of science. Science is not an attack on the spiritual realm, it is about getting obtaining knowledge and understanding. People always want a reason and an explanation, in the past without scientific methods the only explanations were spiritual. Now we have the ability to actually determine the reality of a situation with proven methods.

The has been no disproof of the spiritual realm though. There have been things science has proven to be incorrect, such as the biblical age of the earth, but the proof of dinosaurs and carbon dating does not mean god does not exist.

Eventuall spirituality and science will co exist as the barrer of ignorance between the two thins out to where all that is left of the spiritual reality is what has been proven to exist by science. I think most people will be suprised how much of the spirital world can be proven to exist as time goes on.

will be interesting to see.

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05-29-2006, 01:22 PM

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I disagree. Eventually people will "evolve" they will stop beleiving in silly myths and bedtime stories and come to terms with reality.

and people always wan't reason and explination because it's a better way of thinking! you'd just rather let it be and not wonder how someting works..like a child?

in my opinion, religion IS ignorance

and how will the so called spiritual world be proven?...just a hunch?

#100

05-29-2006, 05:03 PM

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Listen to the news. It backs everything up I've said. Except for Fox. Bush doesn't flat out lie? Weapons of Mass....

sorry guys, ive been out of the loop for awhile. and i just read this post. this guy thinks hes right cuz every news station BUT fox agrees with him. LOL what a moron. of course they do cuz every station BUT fox is against BUSH. and for all the people out there that dont back this war and the Pres. all i have to say is that our troops fighting in this war say what we are doing is a good thing. If our troops who are actually fighting in this war ( unlike people who just sit at their homes and say this war is wrong) believe in it and our pres. why dosent everyone else? i cant wait till i graduate college and join the air force so i can finish what my dad (a B-1 pilot) started. USA FTW!!!!

#101

05-29-2006, 06:45 PM

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:stupid:

and **** ya'll stupid liberals...

I really cant agree any more

#102

05-29-2006, 08:24 PM

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Fox News = Highly right-winged...

I dont think I have seen fox news ever say something bad about Bush.

And once again...

Just because you do not approve of a war doesnt mean you are for the other side. **** we all support our troops and want them to come home, its not a matter of we dont back our personnel overseas.

Only go jump up on your high horse and beat the **** out of someone when they are waving a sign saying "Go Iraq! Kick some ***!"