Missouri #1 in BCS and the AP!! - Page 2

04DarkShadowGT · 12-03-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mixedbreed02GT

as a KU fan i have a reason to bitch because we only have 1 loss. LSU has 2 losses...and every team with 1 loss has a reason to bitch as well.

LSU also played 5 teams ranked in the top 25 when they played.

They beat 3 currently ranked in the top 25 AP poll including the current #3 Virginia Tech by 41 points, #9 Florida, and #16 Tennesee. They lose to #25 Arkansas and #33 Kentucky both in triple over-time by a total of 8 points.

What have you done to think you deserve a shot over LSU, because you have 1 less loss in that joke of a schedule?

What is your signature win? 8-5 Central Michigan? A 7 point win over an absolutly average Texas A&M?

Give me a freakin break if you played LSU's schedule you would be 7-5 at best.

Mixedbreed02GT · 12-03-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT

LSU also played 5 teams ranked in the top 25 when they played.

They beat 3 currently ranked in the top 25 AP poll including the current #3 Virginia Tech by 41 points, #9 Florida, and #16 Tennesee. They lose to #25 Arkansas and #33 Kentucky both in triple over-time by a total of 8 points.

What have you done to think you deserve a shot over LSU, because you have 1 less loss in that joke of a schedule?

What is your signature win? 8-5 Central Michigan? A 7 point win over an absolutly average Texas A&M?

Give me a freakin break if you played LSU's schedule you would be 7-5 at best.

dude shut up. LSU doesn't deserve to be there....they GAVE UP 52 POINT AT HOME, AND LOST!

your argument is pathetic and biased towards the SEC. to hell with the SEC...they're overrated. I hope OSU kicks the living piss out of them.

jjtgiants · 12-03-2007, 10:27 AM

Mixbreed....who do you want to see in the NC game?

04DarkShadowGT · 12-03-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mixedbreed02GT

dude shut up. LSU doesn't deserve to be there....they GAVE UP 52 POINT AT HOME, AND LOST!

your argument is pathetic and biased towards the SEC. to hell with the SEC...they're overrated. I hope OSU kicks the living piss out of them.

You dont need to get defensive or angry. Prove your case with facts are reasoning, not by saying I am SEC biased. There are alot of teams who are not in the SEC that are better than Kansas.

Im actually a Big 10 fan, I hate the SEC and hope they lose every bowl game they play. I hope Ohio State blows the door off LSU.

But my arguments make alot more sense than yours. The difference between us, is you cant argue with reason. You are a Kansas fan which makes you obviously biased towards your team.

You think Kansas deserves to be there even though they lost to the only good team they played, didnt win their conference, hell they didnt even win their divison in the conference. You think that teams who play no one should be rewarded for beating inferior competition. I think that a team like USC or LSU who play not only good conference teams but also good non-conference teams should be rewarded for that.

Give me 1 legitimate reason why Kansas deserves to be there over LSU? Try to think past your biased with your next reply. Ill give you several why they dont.

Most info from here http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt07.htm

There are only 3 teams in the top 50 teams in the country who have easier schedules than Kansas (Hawaii, Boise State, and Central Florida)

Strength of schedule:
Kansas - 88
LSU - 21

Wins over top 25 teams:
Kansas - 0
LSU 3 (#2, #9, and #16)

Wins over top 30 teams
Kansas - 0
LSU - 4

Overall Record of teams played
Kansas - 63-82 for a .434 winning percentage
LSU - 88-70 for a .557 winning percentage

Overall Record of conference foes
Kansas - 46-51 for a winning percentage of .474
LSU - 63-46 for a winning percentage of .578

LSU won its conference while Kansas did not even with its division of its conference.

The only teams imo that have a legitimate gripe are USC and Oklahoma.

Mixedbreed02GT · 12-03-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 04DarkShadowGT

You dont need to get defensive or angry. Prove your case with facts are reasoning, not by saying I am SEC biased. There are alot of teams who are not in the SEC that are better than Kansas.

Im actually a Big 10 fan, I hate the SEC and hope they lose every bowl game they play. I hope Ohio State blows the door off LSU.

But my arguments make alot more sense than yours. The difference between us, is you cant argue with reason. You are a Kansas fan which makes you obviously biased towards your team.

You think Kansas deserves to be there even though they lost to the only good team they played, didnt win their conference, hell they didnt even win their divison in the conference. You think that teams who play no one should be rewarded for beating inferior competition. I think that a team like USC or LSU who play not only good conference teams but also good non-conference teams should be rewarded for that.

Give me 1 legitimate reason why Kansas deserves to be there over LSU? Try to think past your biased with your next reply.

The only teams imo that have a legitimate gripe are USC and Oklahoma.

u show me a rule that says you have to win your division or your conference to play in the NC Title Game.

KU had a better record than LSU, and only lost by 8 points on a nuetral site, and only gave up 46.

that's why.

but i hope OSU smacks the piss out of the Gay LSU tiger homos.

and for the next LSU queer that says Geaux Tigers... Geaux is GAY!!!!!!!!! and so is everything from Louisiana.

stupid feckin cajuns. go back to france and have your damn french fries.

04DarkShadowGT · 12-03-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mixedbreed02GT

u show me a rule that says you have to win your division or your conference to play in the NC Title Game.

KU had a better record than LSU, and only lost by 8 points on a nuetral site, and only gave up 46.

that's why.

but i hope OSU smacks the piss out of the Gay LSU tiger homos.

and for the next LSU queer that says Geaux Tigers... Geaux is GAY!!!!!!!!! and so is everything from Louisiana.

stupid feckin cajuns. go back to france and have your damn french fries.

Please tell me you are not using your team ONLY gave up 46 points as a reason why they deserve it? How about LSU gave up 7 points against #3 Virginia Tech, how about they gave up 24 to Florida a team that scored under 30 only twice the whole year, and gave up 14 in its conference championship game.

Btw all those points combined are less than what you gave up to Missouri in 1 game which youre proud about.

If you beat Virginia Tech, then come back and say Kansas was wronged. But until them be thankful you are even in a BCS game at all.

HokieStang00 · 12-03-2007, 11:33 AM

Yes..LSU gave up 52 points @ home. 20 of those points also came in 3 OT's. So in reality, they gave up 32 in regulation.

04DarkShadowGT · 12-03-2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HokieStang00

Yes..LSU gave up 52 points @ home. 20 of those points also came in 3 OT's. So in reality, they gave up 32 in regulation.

Dont cloud his mind with facts and reason, it will just confuse him.

Mixedbreed02GT · 12-03-2007, 11:38 AM

damn i can't type...was supposed to be 36.

not 46.

WyteKraka · 12-03-2007, 12:55 PM

Geaux Tigers!!

man, if you are this bent out of shape now.... wait til VT stomps ya'll.

04DarkShadowGT · 12-03-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WyteKraka

Geaux Tigers!!

man, if you are this bent out of shape now.... wait til VT stomps ya'll.

That wont happen, Kansas is better than LSU so of course Kansas will beat them by more than 41 points.

jjtgiants · 12-03-2007, 01:49 PM

mixbreed, Kansas should be lucky to have a passionate fan like you, but seriously dude, there no way on gods green earth Kansas should be ranked ahead of LSU. Darkshadow laid out the reasons why when he posted the strength of schedule information. Based on your arguement Hawaii should be ranked ahead of both of them. The problem is that if the BCS starts rewarding schools that don't play anyone worth a damn your going to have teams like USC and LSU who start playing BS teams just so they can have a 12-0 season. That's not good for college football. I totally hear you that it's not the kansas players fault their schedule sucked, but it takes time man....just be patient.

And VT will beat the piss out of Kansas....sorry to say, but they are good football team that is used to playing in big games

Mixedbreed02GT · 12-03-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WyteKraka

Geaux Tigers!!

man, if you are this bent out of shape now.... wait til VT stomps ya'll.

well guess what....GEAUX be gay somewhere else. stupid homo.

Mixedbreed02GT · 12-03-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jjtgiants

mixbreed, Kansas should be lucky to have a passionate fan like you, but seriously dude, there no way on gods green earth Kansas should be ranked ahead of LSU. Darkshadow laid out the reasons why when he posted the strength of schedule information. Based on your arguement Hawaii should be ranked ahead of both of them. The problem is that if the BCS starts rewarding schools that don't play anyone worth a damn your going to have teams like USC and LSU who start playing BS teams just so they can have a 12-0 season. That's not good for college football. I totally hear you that it's not the kansas players fault their schedule sucked, but it takes time man....just be patient.

And VT will beat the piss out of Kansas....sorry to say, but they are good football team that is used to playing in big games

that's why I think the NCAA should take away a schools power to schedule non-conference games. THE NCAA Should choose each teams schedules, just as the NFL does.

and that way they can't start having teams schedule the worst non-con teams.

and i think Div 1 teams don't need to be playing Div 2 teams. that way you don't have theses little teams get stomped all the time.

NCAA would also do well to break these teams up from their current conferences, and re-align the entire thing a little more fairly, and in effect do away with the Conference Championship games, and keep every team to a 12 game schedule. Or better yet, just do away with the conference's all together.

Then the top 16 teams, get a playoff, the rest go home.

i think it would ad so much more parity to College Football, and create a level playing field for every team...right now the playing field isn't level, because a Boise State can't win it and they were undefeated a few years ago, a Hawaii can't get in it they're undefeated this year.

this year is an exception, because no one could consistently win and stay @ #1, but if you look at years past, one school can dominate for years on end.

jjtgiants · 12-03-2007, 04:53 PM

I don't have a problem with schools picking their own schedules. They really only get to pick 3 games and then the conference schedule is set. I understand why your bitter, but as I've said 10 times already...... Give Kansas a couple of years and if they continue to be good things will completely change for them.

I think a playoff system would be cool, but I don't think it will ever happen because there is so much tradition and $$$ involved with some of the bowls.

WyteKraka · 12-03-2007, 07:23 PM

i think one of the mian reasons they won't have playoffs is because the teams get a break in december in between conference championships and the bowl games.... and december means mid-term exams. means it gives the students a little bit of a break from the football...... and the traveling. and mixedbreed, i'm sorry your vagina burns. just hope VT doesn't put more sand in it. LSU on their worst day, (Kentucky,Arkansas game) would still beat Kansas.

Mixedbreed02GT · 12-03-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WyteKraka

i think one of the mian reasons

why don't you learn how to spell first dumbass before you go saying my vagina burns.

WyteKraka · 12-04-2007, 05:16 AM

haha, a typo. sorry i don't take this as serious as you and don't go back and spell check my posts. calling me a dumbass or LSU and Louisiana nothing but stupid cajuns does not change the fact that your team DOES NOT deserve to play in the NC. no matter how you try to spin it, no matter how much you cry, it won't change anything. Therapy may be the right solution to help control your temper tantrums, or may i suggest.... Midol.

Mixedbreed02GT · 12-04-2007, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WyteKraka

haha, a typo. sorry i don't take this as serious as you and don't go back and spell check my posts. calling me a dumbass or LSU and Louisiana nothing but stupid cajuns does not change the fact that your team DOES NOT deserve to play in the NC. no matter how you try to spin it, no matter how much you cry, it won't change anything. Therapy may be the right solution to help control your temper tantrums, or may i suggest.... Midol.

yeah and neither does LSU. just cause they are there, doesn't mean they deserve it, not LSU's fault the stupid voters are a bunch of sheep. knowing those dumbasses, LSU could have lost 3 or 4 games, and they still would have gotten in.

todd03blown · 12-04-2007, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mixedbreed02GT

why don't you learn how to spell first dumbass before you go saying my vagina burns.

wow; what we have here is an ethug. big bad tough guy. I just loving reading your fucked up posts. I don't think I have seen anyone in my life that has so much hatred as you do. You fucking hate everything, everyone, etc in life. Sure does suck to be your pissy ass.

Oh and VT will without a doubt stomp a fucking mud hole in Kansas.

todd03blown · 12-04-2007, 08:24 AM

well said 04darkshadowGT!!!

WyteKraka · 12-04-2007, 11:24 AM

no matter what is said you will simply resort to.... everything is stupid blah blah blah, my team got screwed blah blah blah. but face it...facts are facts. how can you expect your team to play for the NC when they lose their last game. face it your team blew it. Missouri has the biggest gripe, they should have ya'll spot. but i just don't see how you expect to play for the NC losing your last game. LSU lost to Arkansas but saved themselves by coming back and beating Tennessee and winning the conference. thats a championship caliber team for you. Getting beat.... then coming back without your starting QB and winning your conference. Kansas played what 1 good team this whole year.... and they lost. LSU played teams with Heisman contenders..... they played last years NC. you have no arguement. Worry about proving yourselves against VT. But if your team is anything like you, their heads will be soo far up their asses they will go in unprepared and get blown out.

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todd03blown Blowns the only way!!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 785	well said 04darkshadowGT!!! __________________ 2008 Nissan Maxima SE Black on Black baby!!

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jjtgiants jjtgiants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 3,731	Mixbreed....who do you want to see in the NC game?

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HokieStang00 Blackity Black Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 640	Yes..LSU gave up 52 points @ home. 20 of those points also came in 3 OT's. So in reality, they gave up 32 in regulation.

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Mixedbreed02GT Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,153	damn i can't type...was supposed to be 36. not 46.

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WyteKraka Darkside Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hahnville, LA Posts: 49	Geaux Tigers!! man, if you are this bent out of shape now.... wait til VT stomps ya'll.

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jjtgiants jjtgiants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 3,731	mixbreed, Kansas should be lucky to have a passionate fan like you, but seriously dude, there no way on gods green earth Kansas should be ranked ahead of LSU. Darkshadow laid out the reasons why when he posted the strength of schedule information. Based on your arguement Hawaii should be ranked ahead of both of them. The problem is that if the BCS starts rewarding schools that don't play anyone worth a damn your going to have teams like USC and LSU who start playing BS teams just so they can have a 12-0 season. That's not good for college football. I totally hear you that it's not the kansas players fault their schedule sucked, but it takes time man....just be patient. And VT will beat the piss out of Kansas....sorry to say, but they are good football team that is used to playing in big games

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jjtgiants jjtgiants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 3,731	I don't have a problem with schools picking their own schedules. They really only get to pick 3 games and then the conference schedule is set. I understand why your bitter, but as I've said 10 times already...... Give Kansas a couple of years and if they continue to be good things will completely change for them. I think a playoff system would be cool, but I don't think it will ever happen because there is so much tradition and $$$ involved with some of the bowls.

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WyteKraka Darkside Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hahnville, LA Posts: 49	i think one of the mian reasons they won't have playoffs is because the teams get a break in december in between conference championships and the bowl games.... and december means mid-term exams. means it gives the students a little bit of a break from the football...... and the traveling. and mixedbreed, i'm sorry your vagina burns. just hope VT doesn't put more sand in it. LSU on their worst day, (Kentucky,Arkansas game) would still beat Kansas.

12-04-2007, 05:16 AM	#48 (permalink)
WyteKraka Darkside Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hahnville, LA Posts: 49	haha, a typo. sorry i don't take this as serious as you and don't go back and spell check my posts. calling me a dumbass or LSU and Louisiana nothing but stupid cajuns does not change the fact that your team DOES NOT deserve to play in the NC. no matter how you try to spin it, no matter how much you cry, it won't change anything. Therapy may be the right solution to help control your temper tantrums, or may i suggest.... Midol.

12-04-2007, 11:24 AM	#52 (permalink)
WyteKraka Darkside Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hahnville, LA Posts: 49	no matter what is said you will simply resort to.... everything is stupid blah blah blah, my team got screwed blah blah blah. but face it...facts are facts. how can you expect your team to play for the NC when they lose their last game. face it your team blew it. Missouri has the biggest gripe, they should have ya'll spot. but i just don't see how you expect to play for the NC losing your last game. LSU lost to Arkansas but saved themselves by coming back and beating Tennessee and winning the conference. thats a championship caliber team for you. Getting beat.... then coming back without your starting QB and winning your conference. Kansas played what 1 good team this whole year.... and they lost. LSU played teams with Heisman contenders..... they played last years NC. you have no arguement. Worry about proving yourselves against VT. But if your team is anything like you, their heads will be soo far up their asses they will go in unprepared and get blown out.

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