View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#7382
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#7385
Don't really want one that states "needs welding"!
Look for one that is together and with no problems. Just a long block is needed. Even one that has 200,000 mile will be just fine as long it has no problems. Such as a statement "ran before pulled" "can hear run".
Look for one that is together and with no problems. Just a long block is needed. Even one that has 200,000 mile will be just fine as long it has no problems. Such as a statement "ran before pulled" "can hear run".
#7386
k cool. u check out the other links by any chance?
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Last edited by liljojo4711; 07-08-2009 at 02:34 PM.
#7387
I did and responded, but took to long in my responce, so it boot me off! Had a whole page wrote up!
Assuming the crank is good
Get the rod bearings!
The main bearings are alittle steep! Clevite makes some as well as Federl Mogul $90
Head gasket swap kit from ford includes bolts and head gaskets as well as a dipstick tube. $120 shipped
Go to Dealership and get the TTY main bolts $30
Assuming the crank is good
Get the rod bearings!
The main bearings are alittle steep! Clevite makes some as well as Federl Mogul $90
Head gasket swap kit from ford includes bolts and head gaskets as well as a dipstick tube. $120 shipped
Go to Dealership and get the TTY main bolts $30
#7389
Hey guys! On the average, what would it cost to get a shortblock rebuilt? Here's the details on a motor some one is selling that might be interested in.
-ported PI heads $1200
includes, beehive springs and titanuim retainers. and ARP head studs
-Comp stage II blower cams $450
*heads and cams together for $1500
-5.4 short block $800
manley rods, probe pistons, steel forged crank. arp studded mains etc.
*started knocking*
*will sell longblock for 2k
Too much for used heads???
-ported PI heads $1200
includes, beehive springs and titanuim retainers. and ARP head studs
-Comp stage II blower cams $450
*heads and cams together for $1500
-5.4 short block $800
manley rods, probe pistons, steel forged crank. arp studded mains etc.
*started knocking*
*will sell longblock for 2k
Too much for used heads???
Last edited by L.B.C.; 07-08-2009 at 03:20 PM. Reason: Missed something
#7390
I did and responded, but took to long in my responce, so it boot me off! Had a whole page wrote up!
Assuming the crank is good
Get the rod bearings!
The main bearings are alittle steep! Clevite makes some as well as Federl Mogul $90
Head gasket swap kit from ford includes bolts and head gaskets as well as a dipstick tube. $120 shipped
Go to Dealership and get the TTY main bolts $30
Assuming the crank is good
Get the rod bearings!
The main bearings are alittle steep! Clevite makes some as well as Federl Mogul $90
Head gasket swap kit from ford includes bolts and head gaskets as well as a dipstick tube. $120 shipped
Go to Dealership and get the TTY main bolts $30
#7391
96blackgt i had to look at the block on ebay since you said needed welding lol thats some funny **** 150 bucks for a block with a hole in it? thats crazy that guy is ignorant then he has the nerve to say will weld for a fee ,then he says shipping starts out at 125 , what!! he gives you a check list a mile long with things wrong with it , thats almost 500.00 for a that bullshit, then you have machine shop cost, you can buy a brand new 5.4 block ready to build for 500.00 bucks from mmr or ford racing
i have 3 5.4 blocks and 4 sets of p.i heads i am keeping 2of the blocks though but if someone is having a hard time finding a 5.4 block i will be more than glad to donate it to the cause but the only catch is i misplaced 3 of the main caps but you can get new ones,or i might get lucky and dig them up, but its a 2001 block, needs bored (rusty cylinders) and then line bored the main caps but its just sitting i will prob never use it but if i can help one of you will be more than glad to
i have 3 5.4 blocks and 4 sets of p.i heads i am keeping 2of the blocks though but if someone is having a hard time finding a 5.4 block i will be more than glad to donate it to the cause but the only catch is i misplaced 3 of the main caps but you can get new ones,or i might get lucky and dig them up, but its a 2001 block, needs bored (rusty cylinders) and then line bored the main caps but its just sitting i will prob never use it but if i can help one of you will be more than glad to
Last edited by the12fast4u; 07-08-2009 at 07:49 PM.
#7392
I seem to recall my plan to do the swap and this thread in particular was initially received with something less than enthusiasm. Thankfully "average power production" means something to some people and the word is out. Lots and lots of new swappers and the more of us there become the easier it is for guys like me, myillwill, Dan and others to get new parts developed and produced to up the ante even more. **** you'd think TFS built their new heads just for us.
I guess all of our combined efforts have paid off.
I guess all of our combined efforts have paid off.
Congrats to all of you getting your swaps done and running! I'm REALLY curious to see what the trick flows do on these things.
#7394
Judging from what you've said, you'll probably be better off buying a good shortblock, maybe even a long block. I think a forged 5.4 shortblock from MMR starts at like $2600.
#7395
im not paying $2600 for a block. i might not even forge the block, havent decided. i really dont plan on more than 350hp and 400tq so im undecided. i can always forge it later if i really need to. im really trying to keep this a budget build but i want to do it right. i want to start off with the cheapest swap humanly possible plus cams.
#7399
hunter(sleepingGT) spend right around 5500 on a mild longblock. the machine work was cheap only about 400 bucks. if you can buy a shortblock for 2600 from MMR you would be better off with that and a nice set of heads....
#7401
cheap 5.4
I found 5.4 complete on eBay, got it and used that. I stripped it down to a shortblock and checked everything over. Got some used comp cams 270's, some used Stage II Partiot heads, a used HPS intake and put it together. It runs pretty well and I probably have a little over 2G in all of that doing all of the work myself. I sold the heads of the donor engine and it came with a lot of new parts. SOme I used, some I sold which all helped offset the cost of the build. It is not the ideal setup, but I drive it every day.
#7402
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the front cover is a good find (don't remember if the price was right... 80-100 bucks tops is ok), they can be a little scarce. Pretty much everything else, no.
k cool. u check out the other links by any chance?
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Hey guys! On the average, what would it cost to get a shortblock rebuilt? Here's the details on a motor some one is selling that might be interested in.
-ported PI heads $1200
includes, beehive springs and titanuim retainers. and ARP head studs
-Comp stage II blower cams $450
*heads and cams together for $1500
-5.4 short block $800
manley rods, probe pistons, steel forged crank. arp studded mains etc.
*started knocking*
*will sell longblock for 2k
Too much for used heads???
-ported PI heads $1200
includes, beehive springs and titanuim retainers. and ARP head studs
-Comp stage II blower cams $450
*heads and cams together for $1500
-5.4 short block $800
manley rods, probe pistons, steel forged crank. arp studded mains etc.
*started knocking*
*will sell longblock for 2k
Too much for used heads???
heads and cams together is a possible deal but I'd still push you toward the TFS heads and a cam better than comp with a shorter lsa and an earlier ICL.
The shortblock is probably needing a set of bearings and a quick run through the machine shop for the crank (polish) but it's otherwise got about 1200 bucks in parts in it. As long as the pistons are scuffed bad you should be able to rock it. The longblock sounds like a deal. Add 500-1000 bucks and you'll have a nice little built short block.
im not paying $2600 for a block. i might not even forge the block, havent decided. i really dont plan on more than 350hp and 400tq so im undecided. i can always forge it later if i really need to. im really trying to keep this a budget build but i want to do it right. i want to start off with the cheapest swap humanly possible plus cams.
Big *** cams like that are not going to be much help on stock PI heads... stop at stage 2 and you'll get a big gain in drivability a bit of bottom end power and a mellower idle without any loss of peak power. If you have hotter than stock heads the gains with the bigger cams can become something more substantial.
#7405
1st trip to the Strip with the 5.4...
I ran a best of 13.4 @ 104 and that was with a 1.97 60' time. This was on street tires and my car has an IRS. I am stoked at those times. LOVE THE 5.4!!! My best with the 4.6 was a 14.0 @ 99 on the stick axle.
#7407
i know it's alittle late for some of you old dogs..... but i just got a call from FTP saying one side is done and the other just needs a finish weld or so..... hows that for a shop to stay there till 3 am to get your car ready by the car show? Tj said with him using hunters car to see how to make these fit he will be able to make them in a couple diffrent sizes to match your combo...... i will post some pics and maybe video tomarrow.....
#7408
awesome man!!!!!!!! too bad you still didn't have the old axle i'd say slap some slicks on it...
#7409
Your trap speed says 304hp on a 3460lbs car. The weight was a guess.