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DarkSith 01-10-2006 04:32 PM

D*** these gears to hell
 
Well I just got my car back from the shop, and my gears wine worse than they did before. The mechanic told me he shimed the gears in and shimed them out and they stille wined. He told me he had the same gears (Motive PP ) in his camaro and they wined, so he just scraped them and bought some GM gears. To say the least I'm pissed, this has been the worst modding experience I've ever had.

I think what I'll do now is save up the money and buy some ford racing 4.10's and see if they wine. I think someone said that the ford gears are made by motive now, is this true? What are your guys opinions on what I should do now?

MattJ 01-10-2006 05:57 PM

Your installer sucks ass. mine dont whine at all and ive got 3.90s. Get em done with a drivetrain specialist.

4.6 Love 01-10-2006 08:16 PM

Whining gears means a crappy install... ;)

Chopper 01-11-2006 07:36 AM

Whining gears means they didn't use ANY measuring devices to set the backlash.Go to someone that can show you a dial indicator and how it will be used to set the backlash.Aftermarket gears should run just as quietly as stock.

DarkSith 01-11-2006 01:19 PM

Well I just got off the phone with amcco transmissions. They said they nomally install gears for $650.00 (just labor). They said that they will look at my gears and see if they are repairable for $75.00, and if they are they would reinstall them for $325.00 wich comes out to be $400.00. Plus what I paid for the gears and barring kit, plus what I paid to get them installed the first time will come out to be around $700.00 if I don't have to buy a new set of gears.

My advice to anyone planning on getting gears installed is make sure, ABSOLUTLY SURE that the shop you get to install them will do a good job.

stanger00 01-11-2006 03:33 PM

its not the installer its the gear.

MattJ 01-11-2006 04:34 PM

Its the installer, not the gear.

Winey gears mean ****ty installaiton job, or incorrect sizing on the parts, and its not the parts. By all means im not saying a quality job wont include the slightest bit of whining, but they arent going to be singing down the road.

stanger00 01-12-2006 06:23 PM

i watched my car get taken apart 3 different times and shown how they did the install and how they first set the shims to match what was etched out on the ring and pinion. so i can say that my gears just like to make noise between 40-50 and at decel.

MattJ 01-12-2006 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by stanger00
i watched my car get taken apart 3 different times and shown how they did the install and how they first set the shims to match what was etched out on the ring and pinion. so i can say that my gears just like to make noise between 40-50 and at decel.

Your installer sucks too...

Mine are perfect.

Badfish 01-12-2006 06:37 PM

mine are good too, either that or i cant hear em over my exhuast

stanger00 01-12-2006 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by MattJ
Your installer sucks too...

Mine are perfect.

same guy installed my roommates and no noise. so its the gear.

Fat Lard 01-13-2006 07:32 AM

Me and a friend put in my clutch in about 3 hours. The clutch itself was 140.00. So not bad.

MattJ 01-13-2006 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Fat Lard
Me and a friend put in my clutch in about 3 hours. The clutch itself was 140.00. So not bad.

Clutch and gears are 2 different things...
:wrongforu

csledd 01-13-2006 12:37 PM

Well all I have to say is me and my dad installed my FRPP 4.10s and the install was easy and they didn't make a single noise

Fat Lard 01-16-2006 04:26 PM

Hmm. I posted that in another thread. Thats queer.

pimpmustangGT 01-17-2006 12:35 AM

200.00 at my local mustang hot rod shop... shop around ford techs arnt the only peopel around .. BTW zero whine.. FRRP 4.10.. love em

cptnron2002 01-19-2006 04:33 PM

I Did My Gears Myself With A Little Time 3 Hours "motive Gears" No Wine You Have Some Bad Work Being Done On Youre Ride No Gears Whine Unless The Lash Has Been Adjusted For Hardcore Drags That Would Ne The Only Reason They Would Wine But Not Good For Street Use

Saleen S330 01-20-2006 09:02 AM

I had my gears swapped three times in my 95 GT, the first time they whined, it was no crap, the guy that installed them. Had panhandle perf. install the next set, they asked who in the heck installed the first set of gears, that says it all. They never whined, then i wanted more gear, so i had Dallas mustang install 4.10s, they never whined. Always ask the shop how many times have they installed a set of gears, and ask to speak to some of their customers that has had the gears installed. You'll save a few hundred in the long run.

MattJ 01-20-2006 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Saleen S330
I had my gears swapped three times in my 95 GT, the first time they whined, it was no crap, the guy that installed them. Had panhandle perf. install the next set, they asked who in the heck installed the first set of gears, that says it all. They never whined, then i wanted more gear, so i had Dallas mustang install 4.10s, they never whined. Always ask the shop how many times have they installed a set of gears, and ask to speak to some of their customers that has had the gears installed. You'll save a few hundred in the long run.

The dealership cant release that customer contact information.

Saleen S330 01-20-2006 10:54 AM

A dealership no, but some performance shops will always have someone in there that had them do sometype of work, and they will happily tell you if they suck or not. And if they tell you they have installed gears mabe 3 or 5 times, hang up the phone.


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