Cold Air Intakes

whitethunder46 · 12-31-2005, 02:06 PM

I have a BBK right now on mine. I wish I would of known more when I first got it because I would of either gotten a JLT or just a K&N filter. My question is would I benefit at all to sell my BBK and get the JLT? Some things I like about the JLT is that it's plastic so less heat absorbtion, it's a 4"tube compared to just 3 1/4 of the BBK. And also you can order the JLT in custom colors, which I would get white to spice up under the hood. So is it stupid to do or just stick with what I gots.

Grimmz · 12-31-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by whitethunder46

I have a BBK right now on mine. I wish I would of known more when I first got it because I would of either gotten a JLT or just a K&N filter. My question is would I benefit at all to sell my BBK and get the JLT? Some things I like about the JLT is that it's plastic so less heat absorbtion, it's a 4"tube compared to just 3 1/4 of the BBK. And also you can order the JLT in custom colors, which I would get white to spice up under the hood. So is it stupid to do or just stick with what I gots.

Well from what I've heard about heat...It doesn't matter a whole lot because the air is not in the intake long enough to get heated up...so it's more for looks then anything...

Mug11 · 12-31-2005, 02:48 PM

get the JLT

whitethunder46 · 12-31-2005, 02:50 PM

But I already have a BBK, is a JLT that much better?

*4.6 Love* · 12-31-2005, 02:57 PM

CAI's are crap...

MattJ · 12-31-2005, 02:57 PM

keep what youve got. you arent going to notice anything different. our GTs barely see any difference between a nice filter to a full cold air unit. dont waste your money...

csledd · 12-31-2005, 02:58 PM

I agree with matt

whitethunder46 · 12-31-2005, 03:06 PM

Thanks guys, thats all I was wandering.

pimpmustangGT · 01-01-2006, 12:36 AM

thats not true... the stock tube is a pos... but a cai isnt any good unless it goes down into your fender well a good ways...and has that plate to close it off... u wanna make a differnce with a stock pipe - leave the stock filter one and remover the air filter housing - its the killer.. but anyway an aluminum cai that goes into the fender well makes an incredible differnce!

r3dn3ck · 01-01-2006, 09:41 AM

seen dozens and dozens of dyno runs with CAI's... 4V engines gain a few. 2V don't. Unless you have supercharger or turbo they're never worth the money for performance. They make the air hotter, introduce all kinds of sudden bends and are usually aerodynamically inefficient.

I know of 1 guy whose combo isn't very radical that's making over 300rwhp and is using the stock intake tract down to the rubber snorkel. CAI's don't work for 2V guys.

Boon44 · 01-01-2006, 11:00 AM

I still got the JLT RAI (painted true blue to match the car) for the boy's stang for Christmas.....might gain some HP...might not.....but it still will look cool as hell....

whitethunder46 · 01-01-2006, 02:03 PM

yea, i wouldnt mind getting the JLT to add some dress up under the hood, I've mentioned before my goal is to make it a show quality car

01_OXFORD_SVT · 01-02-2006, 10:26 AM

I gained 20 DYNO PROVEN hp at the TIRES with a JLT CAI.. i wouldnt buy anything less EVER!! P.S. you can feel it too, seriously...

ponyexpress96 · 01-02-2006, 07:13 PM

Im looking for a CAI does JLT have a website?

whitethunder46 · 01-02-2006, 08:24 PM

http://www.jlttruecoldair.com/

blownstang · 01-02-2006, 08:27 PM

JLT = the win

dannyb785 · 01-02-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 01_OXFORD_SVT

I gained 20 DYNO PROVEN hp at the TIRES with a JLT CAI.. i wouldnt buy anything less EVER!! P.S. you can feel it too, seriously...

on an otherwise stock engine? LIAR! atleast, misinformed. There is no possible way you'd get 20 rwhp from a cai. maybe 10 CRANK 10 hp max. On a s/c'ed engine, yes...stock...no. Widening the intake only helps so much. there's only so much air u can cram without a s/c

Boon44 · 01-02-2006, 09:23 PM

The man that owns JLT told me personally that a pretty much stock GT is going to gain 10-12 HP. And that dyno after dyno after dyno the RAI and CAI yielded the same basic increases in performance.

ponyexpress96 · 01-03-2006, 02:45 PM

thanks lighting

MattJ · 01-03-2006, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Boon44

The man that owns JLT told me personally that a pretty much stock GT is going to gain 10-12 HP. And that dyno after dyno after dyno the RAI and CAI yielded the same basic increases in performance.

Ya? Well so does K&N. Real world numbers arent close to that. Intakes are pretty much worthless on a bolt on 2v. You are better off buying a high-flowing filter and remove your air silencer for 75% cheaper than the full intake unit.

*madmatt* · 01-03-2006, 04:32 PM

Hell, I wish I had just bought a replacement paper filter. 3 bucks and does the same that a K&N does. Intakes dont do crap on our cars, and the ones that go in the fender are even worse because they screw with your a/f ratio, which is a bad thing.

ponyexpress96 · 01-03-2006, 07:38 PM

So it is not really worth the 170.00 dollars it would cost?? for my car

MattJ · 01-03-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ponyexpress96

So it is not really worth the 170.00 dollars it would cost?? for my car

Give me the money and ill buy and install a nice filter for you, and youll have close to the same results.

Boon44 · 01-03-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MattJ

Ya? Well so does K&N. Real world numbers arent close to that. Intakes are pretty much worthless on a bolt on 2v. You are better off buying a high-flowing filter and remove your air silencer for 75% cheaper than the full intake unit.

Maybe so.....but I got money to burn!.....

Even if there is no performance gain, it will definitely look nice.

12-31-2005, 02:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	Cold Air Intakes I have a BBK right now on mine. I wish I would of known more when I first got it because I would of either gotten a JLT or just a K&N filter. My question is would I benefit at all to sell my BBK and get the JLT? Some things I like about the JLT is that it's plastic so less heat absorbtion, it's a 4"tube compared to just 3 1/4 of the BBK. And also you can order the JLT in custom colors, which I would get white to spice up under the hood. So is it stupid to do or just stick with what I gots. __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

12-31-2005, 02:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mug11 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lubbock/Houston, TX Posts: 909	get the JLT __________________

12-31-2005, 02:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	But I already have a BBK, is a JLT that much better? __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

12-31-2005, 02:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,154	CAI's are crap... __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

12-31-2005, 02:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
MattJ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 10,243	keep what youve got. you arent going to notice anything different. our GTs barely see any difference between a nice filter to a full cold air unit. dont waste your money... __________________ 2001 Mustang GT Premium - Mineral Grey

12-31-2005, 02:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	I agree with matt __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

12-31-2005, 03:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	Thanks guys, thats all I was wandering. __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

01-01-2006, 12:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
pimpmustangGT Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 191	thats not true... the stock tube is a pos... but a cai isnt any good unless it goes down into your fender well a good ways...and has that plate to close it off... u wanna make a differnce with a stock pipe - leave the stock filter one and remover the air filter housing - its the killer.. but anyway an aluminum cai that goes into the fender well makes an incredible differnce!

01-01-2006, 09:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,018	seen dozens and dozens of dyno runs with CAI's... 4V engines gain a few. 2V don't. Unless you have supercharger or turbo they're never worth the money for performance. They make the air hotter, introduce all kinds of sudden bends and are usually aerodynamically inefficient. I know of 1 guy whose combo isn't very radical that's making over 300rwhp and is using the stock intake tract down to the rubber snorkel. CAI's don't work for 2V guys.

01-01-2006, 11:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
Boon44 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 201	I still got the JLT RAI (painted true blue to match the car) for the boy's stang for Christmas.....might gain some HP...might not.....but it still will look cool as hell....

01-01-2006, 02:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	yea, i wouldnt mind getting the JLT to add some dress up under the hood, I've mentioned before my goal is to make it a show quality car __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

01-02-2006, 10:26 AM	#13 (permalink)
01_OXFORD_SVT Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SUFFOLK VA Posts: 2	I gained 20 DYNO PROVEN hp at the TIRES with a JLT CAI.. i wouldnt buy anything less EVER!! P.S. you can feel it too, seriously...

01-02-2006, 07:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
ponyexpress96 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 113	Im looking for a CAI does JLT have a website? __________________ 96 GT Bassani X-Pipe Flowmasters Under drive pullies Hurst Short Shifter BBK Cold Air Intake(Fender)

01-02-2006, 08:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	http://www.jlttruecoldair.com/ __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

01-02-2006, 08:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
blownstang Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 418	JLT = the win __________________ 2003 DSG Mustang GT 5spd Full Bolt On's, Full Suspension, Built Rear 271/303

01-02-2006, 09:23 PM	#18 (permalink)
Boon44 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 201	The man that owns JLT told me personally that a pretty much stock GT is going to gain 10-12 HP. And that dyno after dyno after dyno the RAI and CAI yielded the same basic increases in performance.

01-03-2006, 02:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
ponyexpress96 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 113	thanks lighting __________________ 96 GT Bassani X-Pipe Flowmasters Under drive pullies Hurst Short Shifter BBK Cold Air Intake(Fender)

01-03-2006, 04:32 PM	#21 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,929	Hell, I wish I had just bought a replacement paper filter. 3 bucks and does the same that a K&N does. Intakes dont do crap on our cars, and the ones that go in the fender are even worse because they screw with your a/f ratio, which is a bad thing. __________________ RPMPlanets

01-03-2006, 07:38 PM	#22 (permalink)
ponyexpress96 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 113	So it is not really worth the 170.00 dollars it would cost?? for my car __________________ 96 GT Bassani X-Pipe Flowmasters Under drive pullies Hurst Short Shifter BBK Cold Air Intake(Fender)