300 Hp

PureStang · 08-19-2005, 08:56 PM

i want over 310 hp in the stang....wat are the best ways of doing this w/o forced induction or NO2......would 4v heads and a stage 2 cam be steps in the right direction? n would 410s or 390s be good gears for that much power...n this is in a 2v gt

PureStang · 08-19-2005, 09:09 PM

actually even better...just tell me what i should get in order to get 300+ rwhp w/o boost or spray...pretty simple request huh

*4.6 Love* · 08-19-2005, 09:16 PM

You will need P&P heads,vt/comp cams, full exhaust, plenum, and all supporting mods as well like pullies, cold air, ect...and a good tune of course!

PureStang · 08-19-2005, 09:19 PM

also forgot to mention it would be a dd

*4.6 Love* · 08-19-2005, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PureStang

also forgot to mention it would be a dd

Whats dd?...

StangGT804 · 08-19-2005, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.6 Love

You will need P&P heads,vt/comp cams, full exhaust, plenum, and all supporting mods as well like pullies, cold air, ect...and a good tune of course!

Couldnt you just go with a K &N filter, instead of a cold air intake!? I heard they are no good! I too wanna reach at least 300hp!! Im goin with 4.10 gears for my next mod!

StangGT804 · 08-19-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.6 Love

Whats dd?...

daily driver!

*4.6 Love* · 08-19-2005, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StangGT804

Couldnt you just go with a K &N filter, instead of a cold air intake!? I heard they are no good! I too wanna reach at least 300hp!! Im goin with 4.10 gears for my next mod!

Yes a simple drop in k&N will do just fine!

Lightning247 · 08-19-2005, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Purestang

would 4v heads and a stage 2 cam be steps in the right direction

Most 4V swap cars make over 300rwhp with just a couple bolt-ons; i.e. intake and exhaust depending on who assembles it for you...and that's even with B series heads.

Or you can go the Full-Tilt Bolt on GT, get the 2V's ported, intake ported, pullies, Aluminum Flywheel, Longtubes, full exhaust, etc. etc.

Minimum 4.10 gears no matter what!

Philip K.

Stevoneo · 08-20-2005, 01:58 AM

or you can contact me and i can get you a s/c for about the same amount of all that work and you can make a really safe tune at 350hp

PureStang · 08-20-2005, 08:49 PM

so supercharging would cost just as much for wat i want to do w/o the supercharger?

TonyStangs · 08-20-2005, 09:16 PM

what is the cheapiest you can get a s/c for?

Shambles · 08-20-2005, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lightning247

Most 4V swap cars make over 300rwhp with just a couple bolt-ons; i.e. intake and exhaust depending on who assembles it for you...and that's even with B series heads.

Or you can go the Full-Tilt Bolt on GT, get the 2V's ported, intake ported, pullies, Aluminum Flywheel, Longtubes, full exhaust, etc. etc.

Minimum 4.10 gears no matter what!

Philip K.

I wanna know what my Cobra can do after I shove this TKO 500 and 3.73's, plus a 26 Spline Clutch into it. Tranny is lighter weight so it should save me a little weight there. Exhaust is the next thing to be done, followed by a new throttle body (DAMN THAT BUTTERFLY TB!!), or vice versa. I already have a chip in that sucker, so all im gonna need is just the parts to fill the tune!

OOO Boy but do I wanna know what rwhp I might be pushin then *dreams*

Lightning247 · 08-21-2005, 08:59 AM

What other mods do you have MTShambles. And why the upgrade in Tranny / clutch, you must have bigger plans in order?

And I'll say this once, since you work for MT, return the 3.73's and get 4.10's MINIMUM. You probably won't be dissapointed with 3.73's...but you'll never know what it couldve been like with 4.10's. Of all the items you listed above, the only one that will make the car noticably quicker will be the gears...so Please please please get 4.10's. Depending on what other mods you have those other things fall into place. I've never seen or heard of a throttle body make HP, in any application, Forced induction, N/A, Nitrous etc on the DOHC.

Umm did I mention 4.10's?

One more time for those in the back...

4.10 GEARS

Philip K.

P.S. Not trying to hijack.

spike_africa · 08-21-2005, 10:21 AM

full bolt ons with cams in a manual will get over 300rwhp or damn close to it.

Shambles · 08-21-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lightning247

What other mods do you have MTShambles. And why the upgrade in Tranny / clutch, you must have bigger plans in order?

And I'll say this once, since you work for MT, return the 3.73's and get 4.10's MINIMUM. You probably won't be dissapointed with 3.73's...but you'll never know what it couldve been like with 4.10's. Of all the items you listed above, the only one that will make the car noticably quicker will be the gears...so Please please please get 4.10's. Depending on what other mods you have those other things fall into place. I've never seen or heard of a throttle body make HP, in any application, Forced induction, N/A, Nitrous etc on the DOHC.

Umm did I mention 4.10's?

One more time for those in the back...

4.10 GEARS

Philip K.

P.S. Not trying to hijack.

Only reason im going 3.73 is because I do highway driving every day. The tranny/clutch issue is because of three synchros being bad in my current T-45. Instead of wasting money on a rebuild, im putting in a new TKO 500 with a 26 Spline clutch. That will last me worlds longer than what ive got right now.

Underdrive pulleys and Exhaust are up on the list of things to do, just havnt gotten around to doing them yet (more the exhaust than the UDP).

PureStang · 08-21-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by spike_africa

full bolt ons with cams in a manual will get over 300rwhp or damn close to it.

bolt ons as in....?

Lightning247 · 08-21-2005, 11:21 PM

Shambles...My car is a daily driver, and I make a 200 mile round trip every week in addition to driving to school and work everyday. The 4.10 gears might make a marginal difference in gas. I for one cannot tell you that the 4.10's eat gas any more than stock...much less would you be able to tell the difference between 4.10 and 3.73.

I'm just trying to give you a heads up. The performance difference from 3.73 from 4.10 is in far greater proportion then the gas consumption difference.

I still get 23-24 mpg on the highway with the gears if I behave. That's just as much if not a bit more than before the gears. if I had to do it all over again, I would have 4.30's in my car...and I don't anticipate it would make gas consumption any different.

Not busting your chops just trying to reiterate from my personal experience.

Philip K.

Shambles · 08-22-2005, 07:35 AM

Id do it but Im trying not to have a ton of extra costs with this tranny swap.

cobra4123 · 08-22-2005, 07:45 AM

4.30's will be in mine. but i'll also have a fwd car for dd and snow/rain

spike_africa · 08-22-2005, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PureStang

bolt ons as in....?

Full exhaust (long tubes),pulleys,TB,plenum,tuned,CAI, with a set of cams with higher lift and more duration like the VT stage 2's or COMPCAMS 270's will go over 300rwhp in a manual car.

fallstar · 08-22-2005, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MTShambles

Id do it but Im trying not to have a ton of extra costs with this tranny swap.

So, what are the chances that the driveshaft will be the right length or the cross-member will fit right? Get that info.

fallstar · 08-22-2005, 11:13 AM

You want 300 ponies out of a 2V 4.6? Get a stroker kit and get ready to do alot of dissassembly. It's alot of grunt work but you'll never regret the torque you'll get.

08-19-2005, 08:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
PureStang WE ARE PENNSTATE Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Downingtown/West Chester, PA Posts: 4,958	300 Hp i want over 310 hp in the stang....wat are the best ways of doing this w/o forced induction or NO2......would 4v heads and a stage 2 cam be steps in the right direction? n would 410s or 390s be good gears for that much power...n this is in a 2v gt __________________ Brandon J My Ride sig by purestang

08-19-2005, 09:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
PureStang WE ARE PENNSTATE Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Downingtown/West Chester, PA Posts: 4,958	actually even better...just tell me what i should get in order to get 300+ rwhp w/o boost or spray...pretty simple request huh __________________ Brandon J My Ride sig by purestang

08-19-2005, 09:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,154	You will need P&P heads,vt/comp cams, full exhaust, plenum, and all supporting mods as well like pullies, cold air, ect...and a good tune of course! __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

08-19-2005, 09:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
PureStang WE ARE PENNSTATE Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Downingtown/West Chester, PA Posts: 4,958	also forgot to mention it would be a dd __________________ Brandon J My Ride sig by purestang

08-20-2005, 01:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
Stevoneo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 598	or you can contact me and i can get you a s/c for about the same amount of all that work and you can make a really safe tune at 350hp __________________ 2004 Mach 1 - New Baby Numbers Coming Soon 2001 Mustang GT - In Mustang Heaven 399.65 RWHP 384 Torque

08-20-2005, 08:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
PureStang WE ARE PENNSTATE Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Downingtown/West Chester, PA Posts: 4,958	so supercharging would cost just as much for wat i want to do w/o the supercharger? __________________ Brandon J My Ride sig by purestang

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08-21-2005, 08:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
Lightning247 Huge Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charlotte/ Winston Salem, NC Posts: 233	What other mods do you have MTShambles. And why the upgrade in Tranny / clutch, you must have bigger plans in order? And I'll say this once, since you work for MT, return the 3.73's and get 4.10's MINIMUM. You probably won't be dissapointed with 3.73's...but you'll never know what it couldve been like with 4.10's. Of all the items you listed above, the only one that will make the car noticably quicker will be the gears...so Please please please get 4.10's. Depending on what other mods you have those other things fall into place. I've never seen or heard of a throttle body make HP, in any application, Forced induction, N/A, Nitrous etc on the DOHC. Umm did I mention 4.10's? One more time for those in the back... 4.10 GEARS Philip K. P.S. Not trying to hijack. __________________ 1997 Rio Red Cobra: 2700 of 6961 Tri-Ax \| BBK O/R H-Pipe \| Dynomax Race Bullets \| WMS High Velocity Intake \| Steeda UD Pullies \| T56 6 Speed \| NGK-TR6 \| 03/04 Cobra Al Driveshaft \| 11 " DD SHD Perf. Clutch Kit \| Fidanza Flywheel \| Innovative LC-1 \| Venom VCN 1000 125 jet \| Walbro 255 \| 42 lb Injectors \| 90MM LMAF \| Detroit TruTrac \| Motive lightened 4.56 \| Moser 31 Spline \| BBS RGR Diamond Black \| P-Zero's 271rwhp / 265tq 11.7 A/F 376rwhp / 451tq 100 Shot no tuning

08-21-2005, 10:21 AM	#15 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,430	full bolt ons with cams in a manual will get over 300rwhp or damn close to it. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

08-21-2005, 11:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
Lightning247 Huge Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charlotte/ Winston Salem, NC Posts: 233	Shambles...My car is a daily driver, and I make a 200 mile round trip every week in addition to driving to school and work everyday. The 4.10 gears might make a marginal difference in gas. I for one cannot tell you that the 4.10's eat gas any more than stock...much less would you be able to tell the difference between 4.10 and 3.73. I'm just trying to give you a heads up. The performance difference from 3.73 from 4.10 is in far greater proportion then the gas consumption difference. I still get 23-24 mpg on the highway with the gears if I behave. That's just as much if not a bit more than before the gears. if I had to do it all over again, I would have 4.30's in my car...and I don't anticipate it would make gas consumption any different. Not busting your chops just trying to reiterate from my personal experience. Philip K. __________________ 1997 Rio Red Cobra: 2700 of 6961 Tri-Ax \| BBK O/R H-Pipe \| Dynomax Race Bullets \| WMS High Velocity Intake \| Steeda UD Pullies \| T56 6 Speed \| NGK-TR6 \| 03/04 Cobra Al Driveshaft \| 11 " DD SHD Perf. Clutch Kit \| Fidanza Flywheel \| Innovative LC-1 \| Venom VCN 1000 125 jet \| Walbro 255 \| 42 lb Injectors \| 90MM LMAF \| Detroit TruTrac \| Motive lightened 4.56 \| Moser 31 Spline \| BBS RGR Diamond Black \| P-Zero's 271rwhp / 265tq 11.7 A/F 376rwhp / 451tq 100 Shot no tuning

08-22-2005, 07:35 AM	#19 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	Id do it but Im trying not to have a ton of extra costs with this tranny swap. __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee

08-22-2005, 07:45 AM	#20 (permalink)
cobra4123 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 826	4.30's will be in mine. but i'll also have a fwd car for dd and snow/rain __________________ Vote for SkylerSVT on Stangette.com...... Just do it........... http://www.mustangtuningforums.com/s...ead.php?t=6045

08-22-2005, 11:13 AM	#23 (permalink)
fallstar Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 111	You want 300 ponies out of a 2V 4.6? Get a stroker kit and get ready to do alot of dissassembly. It's alot of grunt work but you'll never regret the torque you'll get. __________________ '02 White GT Vert. Densecharger CAI, 90mm Lightning MAM, Accufab 75mm TB, Saleen Series IV Intercooled twin screw Supercharger, 42 ft/lb fuel injectors, Full Bassani Exhaust, Aviator pump, Tri-ax Shifter, Spec Stage 2 Clutch, Cobra Brakes