what do i do now?

GerRrg281 · 11-08-2007, 10:25 PM

well....the keeper snuck past the rag and went into the oil passage

does that passage go all the way to the oil pan? can i just pull the pan and get it out? or just drain the oil?

guess i missed the part that said SHOVE A RAG INTO THE OIL GALLEY HOLE........instead of just put a rag over the hole.....the rag caught it a few times....and i donno how it snuck past it the last time.....but....it did

i have no clue how it got past the rag....and i didn't see it go down the hole, i just heard it fall....and then *clink*

*03gtmustang* · 11-08-2007, 10:34 PM

Id start by draining the oil and removing the pan. When I did it, I had a buddy help me. He compressed the spring just enough so I could remove the keepers with a magnet.

When reinstalling them, he compressed the spring and I put one in with the magnet, held it there and he released the spring just enough so it would hold the keeper. Then I turned the keeper into position, he compressed the spring and I installed the next one.

GerRrg281 · 11-08-2007, 10:48 PM

yeah....its not THAT hard of a process....i got one in fine.....just the second one....when i was installing the second keeper...i was just trying to put it in place by hand...and it just slid away from me.....

...it slid away from me a few times and the rag caught it....thats the worst part....because i gained confidence in the rag being there

*03gtmustang* · 11-08-2007, 10:54 PM

Oh well, shit happens. Lets just hope you can get it out.

GerRrg281 · 11-08-2007, 10:55 PM

but that passage has to go all the way down to the oil pan right?? It has to.

GerRrg281 · 11-08-2007, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03gtmustang

Id start by draining the oil and removing the pan. When I did it, I had a buddy help me. He compressed the spring just enough so I could remove the keepers with a magnet.

When reinstalling them, he compressed the spring and I put one in with the magnet, held it there and he released the spring just enough so it would hold the keeper. Then I turned the keeper into position, he compressed the spring and I installed the next one.

yeah, the bad part about that is, i don't have anybody in my family who knows shit about cars....i don't have any close friends who are willing to help me, or actually know anything about cars.....

....just doin it by myself....trying to figure things out alone....it sucks....

wish i had somebody who knew more than me watchin' my back.

bassman97 · 11-09-2007, 09:04 AM

Try sticking a magnet down the galley to see if you pick anything up. Somehow I doubt the oil passages are a straight shot to the oil pan and chances are its stuck in one of the turns. If you find nothing in your pan, than this is probably what happened. If that's the case, you gotta find a way to pull up or push it out (like using an air compressor to blow it out).

r3dn3ck · 11-09-2007, 09:15 AM

yeah... it should be a reasonably straight shot. In any case, don't panic. It's just a PITA, not a disaster.

You can pour oil through the galley to make sure the keeper is all the way down in the pan. Now get a big ass magnet (or a very strong small one) and start systematically touching it to the pan around where the galley ends and dragging it along the pan to the plug hole. use a screen in your oil catch to make sure you get the damn thing. In any case there's a screen in your oil pickup tube so it won't make it to the pump. It's still no good to have it down there but the risk of damage is minimal and pouring quart after quart of oil through will normally dislodge all but really stuck debris.

Remember what the Good Book says (no... The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, not the Bible ya goof), "Don't Panic".

GerRrg281 · 11-09-2007, 12:07 PM

DON'T WORRY, I GOT IT!!!!!!!

GerRrg281 · 11-09-2007, 12:08 PM

used a magnet and stuck it in from the front of the pan, pulled it right out!

B-rett · 11-09-2007, 05:48 PM

thats good

just some advice, when I was putting the keepers back into position instead of trying to use magnets and such...put some grease on your finger and use that to get them back into place, thats what seemed to work best for me. Once I started doing that I got really good at doing it by touch and flew through the rest of them

GerRrg281 · 11-12-2007, 05:08 PM

yeah....i have been just using my fingers....it works the best for me....just glad i don't have fat fingers

11-08-2007, 10:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
GerRrg281 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 54	what do i do now? well....the keeper snuck past the rag and went into the oil passage does that passage go all the way to the oil pan? can i just pull the pan and get it out? or just drain the oil? guess i missed the part that said SHOVE A RAG INTO THE OIL GALLEY HOLE........instead of just put a rag over the hole.....the rag caught it a few times....and i donno how it snuck past it the last time.....but....it did i have no clue how it got past the rag....and i didn't see it go down the hole, i just heard it fall....and then clink __________________ Coming soon: VT Stage II N/A cams & Manley Nextek Valve springs Last edited by GerRrg281 : 11-08-2007 at 10:36 PM.

11-08-2007, 10:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,260	Id start by draining the oil and removing the pan. When I did it, I had a buddy help me. He compressed the spring just enough so I could remove the keepers with a magnet. When reinstalling them, he compressed the spring and I put one in with the magnet, held it there and he released the spring just enough so it would hold the keeper. Then I turned the keeper into position, he compressed the spring and I installed the next one. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan Last edited by 03gtmustang : 11-08-2007 at 10:38 PM.

11-08-2007, 10:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
GerRrg281 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 54	yeah....its not THAT hard of a process....i got one in fine.....just the second one....when i was installing the second keeper...i was just trying to put it in place by hand...and it just slid away from me..... ...it slid away from me a few times and the rag caught it....thats the worst part....because i gained confidence in the rag being there __________________ Coming soon: VT Stage II N/A cams & Manley Nextek Valve springs

11-08-2007, 10:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,260	Oh well, shit happens. Lets just hope you can get it out. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

11-08-2007, 10:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
GerRrg281 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 54	but that passage has to go all the way down to the oil pan right?? It has to. __________________ Coming soon: VT Stage II N/A cams & Manley Nextek Valve springs

11-09-2007, 09:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
bassman97 blank Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,663	Try sticking a magnet down the galley to see if you pick anything up. Somehow I doubt the oil passages are a straight shot to the oil pan and chances are its stuck in one of the turns. If you find nothing in your pan, than this is probably what happened. If that's the case, you gotta find a way to pull up or push it out (like using an air compressor to blow it out).

11-09-2007, 09:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,148	yeah... it should be a reasonably straight shot. In any case, don't panic. It's just a PITA, not a disaster. You can pour oil through the galley to make sure the keeper is all the way down in the pan. Now get a big ass magnet (or a very strong small one) and start systematically touching it to the pan around where the galley ends and dragging it along the pan to the plug hole. use a screen in your oil catch to make sure you get the damn thing. In any case there's a screen in your oil pickup tube so it won't make it to the pump. It's still no good to have it down there but the risk of damage is minimal and pouring quart after quart of oil through will normally dislodge all but really stuck debris. Remember what the Good Book says (no... The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, not the Bible ya goof), "Don't Panic".

11-09-2007, 12:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
GerRrg281 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 54	DON'T WORRY, I GOT IT!!!!!!! __________________ Coming soon: VT Stage II N/A cams & Manley Nextek Valve springs

11-09-2007, 12:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
GerRrg281 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 54	used a magnet and stuck it in from the front of the pan, pulled it right out! __________________ Coming soon: VT Stage II N/A cams & Manley Nextek Valve springs

11-09-2007, 05:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
B-rett BMC Member# 03209 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: north ridgeville, ohio Posts: 1,649	thats good just some advice, when I was putting the keepers back into position instead of trying to use magnets and such...put some grease on your finger and use that to get them back into place, thats what seemed to work best for me. Once I started doing that I got really good at doing it by touch and flew through the rest of them __________________ ---35th Anniversary--- 265 rwhp 288 rwtq

11-12-2007, 05:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
GerRrg281 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 54	yeah....i have been just using my fingers....it works the best for me....just glad i don't have fat fingers __________________ Coming soon: VT Stage II N/A cams & Manley Nextek Valve springs

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