OK..Im giving in!I NEED MORE POOWWERRR

NoKturnaL · 05-02-2005, 07:34 PM

ok I have decided to get the Venom VCN 1000 Nitrous Kit. Is this kit safe for all users? I mean... i know jack crap about the technical stuff when it comes to engines. I only know really Basic crap. I have always told myself that I would never trust nitrous, I am afraid of it damaging the engine,even if it is installed correctly somehow. And I dont wanna hurt my beast!

Although this kit seems like a "smart" safe kit after reading up on it. My questions now is. How much do you think it will cost to have this kit installed.
(See....I have to have a professional install it cause i wouldnt know how to ..lol)

Also......when I am at teh strip. How do you use it? detail please lol

Oh and Wtf does WOT mean? I see people saying that nitrous should be sprayed at WOT? I am guess that means when you floor it?

Please excuse my retardedness. narf

bikerjoe · 05-02-2005, 07:42 PM

WOT wide open throttle

i to didnt like the idea of nitrous until recently... im thinking of getting this kit also its probly the safest kit out there..idiot proof

NoKturnaL · 05-02-2005, 07:42 PM

nevermind . i just saw MT#1's "Venom this is how it works" heh

nice write up

spike_africa · 05-02-2005, 07:46 PM

you might wanna try the zex dry kit. its very very safe.

WaterDR · 05-02-2005, 07:46 PM

WOT = Wide Open Throttle

As the resident Venom expert around here (self appointed naturally), fire away. I can answer all these questions or any others (lol).

I would say $300 - $400 for a professional instal. Try to find a local Ricer performance shop if you can. Why? Because you are more likely to find someone with experience with a Venom system AND most of these kids do very professional looking jobs. Venom systems have not really hit the domestic market hard yet.

Don't fear it too much. When you get it in, read the instructions carefully over and over. It is not that hard to install. I can help you with it here or even over the phone as can a few others around here. If I were to install another one, it would be a 2 hour job with two of us doing the work if we had everything we needed. The hardest part is determining where everything needs to go.

Have you seen my video? That might help too.

If you want to try it yourself, let me know and we can break the jobs up into simple small steps. I can give you assignments by telling you exactly what to do next. Great thing about nitrous is that you can work on an install here and there and still drive the car.

If you have NOT read this thread, please read it. It should help:

http://www.mustangtuningforums.com/showthread.php?t=362

NoKturnaL · 05-02-2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!

WOT = Wide Open Throttle

As the resident Venom expert around here (self appointed naturally), fire away. I can answer all these questions or any others (lol).

I would say $300 - $400 for a professional instal. Try to find a local Ricer performance shop if you can. Why? Because you are more likely to find someone with experience with a Venom system AND most of these kids do very professional looking jobs. Venom systems have not really hit the domestic market hard yet.

Don't fear it too much. When you get it in, read the instructions carefully over and over. It is not that hard to install. I can help you with it here or even over the phone as can a few others around here. If I were to install another one, it would be a 2 hour job with two of us doing the work if we had everything we needed. The hardest part is determining where everything needs to go.

Have you seen my video? That might help too.

If you want to try it yourself, let me know and we can break the jobs up into simple small steps. I can give you assignments by telling you exactly what to do next. Great thing about nitrous is that you can work on an install here and there and still drive the car.

If you have NOT read this thread, please read it. It should help:

http://www.mustangtuningforums.com/showthread.php?t=362

Thanks. I just finished reading that "how it works post.

when the nitrous is activated......and im at WOT...does it spray automatically? or do i push a Button to make it spray once its activated?? lol

If you have the Venom-1000, it will spray automatically. The WOT becomes the switch, assuming the system is activated and your are not running lean. The Venom recluse system uses a push button, but you still need to be at WOT for it to work and have proper a/f. if you want, you can add a push button to the Venom-1000 It is really simple. The wire harness is already setup to do this.

Also. COULD i get a purge kit for this system? i just think its awsome seeing a car at the line..and then see nitrous spray out the exterior of teh car. very intimidating.......

Sure, you can purge it, but it is not needed. It only wastes the nitrous IMO. I prefer that it is not soo obvious, but at $5 a lb, I prefer to use it to go down the track. But, to each their own.

Oh and right now my consistant track times are 14.4's . How much less of a time can one expect from this kit????

All other things being the same, you should run about a second less. Course, if you are running a 14.4, there might be some room for improvement. You should be able to get into the 12's. Keep in the mind that with the Venom, you will not drop as much time as you would with an NX kit, but it is a lot safer.

Comments in red added by MT's#1Customer!

WaterDR · 05-02-2005, 08:41 PM

see comments above

MachGT · 05-02-2005, 08:45 PM

it's all in the tune!

tedinde · 05-03-2005, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike_africa

you might wanna try the zex dry kit. its very very safe.

The venom kit is the most advanced, I have the zex and it's never hiccuped on me a bit and very safe also. My dry kit puts fuel in based on bottle pressure and only fires on WOT. Easier install than the Venom.

I've had 5 nitrous systems in my life on different cars, including 4 barrel 70 stang and having to run way rich just to be safe. Dry nitrous systems like zex and venom are very safe.

NoKturnaL · 05-03-2005, 11:22 PM

What does it feel like to be at WOT and then get sprayed?? Does ya head fly back and hit the headrest?.....lol Can u hear the nitro spraying?

MT#1....I think u should come up here and install the Venom kit for me! I'll pay ya $100.

spike_africa · 05-03-2005, 11:45 PM

unlike in the movies you cant hear when you spray but it does toss you back in the seat a bit. well depends on the hp setting.

Joe Friday · 05-04-2005, 02:36 AM

nitrous is some good ****. But if you don't know anything about it I wouldn't reccomend picking it up, your plastic manifold won't appriciate it much.

If used properley and not to big of a shot 75-100 you should be alright if you want to risk it

spike_africa · 05-04-2005, 09:12 AM

you can blow it with a 50shot. all you gott get is a window switch and spray above 3k rpms and off about 500rpms before your rev limiter. thats how you keep from tossing your intakes salad.

Samsstang · 05-04-2005, 01:09 PM

Man dont scare the guy! Ive had my VCN 1000 for almost 5yrs on a stock tune, stock injectors, STOCK PLASTIC INTAKE, stock fuel pump and I got it when nobody was really familiar with this kit! I ran the biggest shot it came with all last year "Silver nozzle" rated @ 80-90HP shot. My best run was a 13.39 @ 5000ft+ above sea level with 3:73s and stock suspension, spare tire, jack and my wife in the passenger side :toothy10: The Kit is really safe a little to SAFE if you ask me! I let my teenage son run it 2yrs ago with the 70 shot he missed third gear scared the SH*# out of me :icon_pale and still ran a 13.8 @ 101mph. The car is still with the plastic intake to this date and since i cant afford a Bullit or P51 right now thats what it'll run with :icon_prof This year I hope to do better with the Mods in my sig.

WaterDR · 05-04-2005, 02:12 PM

I second Sam. if you want safe nitrous, Venom is the way to go. hard to dick this system up...lots of safety devices built right in for under $600.

I just pulled my plugs again over the weekend. They look completely perfect too.

spike_africa · 05-04-2005, 02:47 PM

yeah if your scared i would agree that or the zex is the best idea for you.

Samsstang · 05-04-2005, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike_africa

yeah if your scared i would agree that or the zex is the best idea for you.

and if your smart! like I said Ive had my car since new (99) nothin broke yet!

WaterDR · 05-04-2005, 05:15 PM

This is my most humble, professional opinion:

1 - Before using nitrous, read, read, and read. And ask lots of questions just like you are. BUT, don't believe everything you hear. I know that's is contradicting, but there are some morons out there giving wrong info. Learn to separate wrong info, from opinions. (not pointing at anyone here...these guys are doing a great job helping).

2 - ZEX ia a nice, safe simple system to install.

3 - Venom is an even safer system that is harder to install.

4 - Be careful listening to the "nitrous pros" spraying at 200 shot for advice. Some of these guys have lost touch with what it was like to be the ocassional user. You don't need everything that they need to spray.

5 - If you want to have some fun and be safe and not spend a ton of money, buy the ZEX or the Venom and limit your spray to about a 75 - 80 or even 90 range. Risks increas a lot as you move up. You can even get away with stock plugs and stock timing and stock fuel system. When you begin to move up in spray, then the costs and complications increase. This is always something you can do later.

6 - Learn to read plugs!

Case in point, Me. I have been running at about a 90 rwhp shot with Zero problems. With my bolt-ons, I feel my fuel system is probably about tapped-out. I have added other features such as nice switches and bottle warmer. I then added an SCT nitrous tune, retarded my timing, and now have a larger fuel pump and injectors waiting to go in. I read my plugs regularly! Eventually, I will jump to a 125.

Then, I will need to start worrying about my rear-end with my 4.10's, but I am sure the 75 shot is almost as fun as a 125 and a lot less expensive to use.

TonyStangs · 05-04-2005, 05:20 PM

where is a good choice for the bottle location if you don't want anyone to know about it a.k.a ppl who carpool and open the trunk and backseat often

also, my car does 0-60 in the low 5's right now, can i expect high 4's with nitrous?

WaterDR · 05-04-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyStangs

where is a good choice for the bottle location if you don't want anyone to know about it a.k.a ppl who carpool and open the trunk and backseat often

also, my car does 0-60 in the low 5's right now, can i expect high 4's with nitrous?

No one really talks 0 - 60 times. Hard to say....it's all about traction at that point.

Just stick it in the trunk. You only need the bottle when you plan on using it.

TonyStangs · 05-04-2005, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!

No one really talks 0 - 60 times. Hard to say....it's all about traction at that point.

Just stick it in the trunk. You only need the bottle when you plan on using it.

this is tru, it just screws into the hose - good point, thanx

WaterDR · 05-04-2005, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8 SyndicateZ

What does it feel like to be at WOT and then get sprayed?? Does ya head fly back and hit the headrest?.....lol Can u hear the nitro spraying?

MT#1....I think u should come up here and install the Venom kit for me! I'll pay ya $100.

You can sorta hear the spray...it might just be more of a sensation. You head not not snap back, but you definately feel it. Nitrous gives yu a lot of torque....a lot more than a blower. So, you feel it more.

Seriously, i would install for you if I could or at least help. But with my busy life, I would need some serious coin to be able to bug away from the family and drive to CT. For $5,000 I will do it on Mother's Day. That way I can give it all to my wife....she will be very understanding with 5k in her purse.

Sam and I would be happy to help. I know I can over the phone or on hear.

Why don't you document your

05-02-2005, 07:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
NoKturnaL MustangTuning 5-oh Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Peabody, MA Posts: 1,950	OK..Im giving in!I NEED MORE POOWWERRR ok I have decided to get the Venom VCN 1000 Nitrous Kit. Is this kit safe for all users? I mean... i know jack crap about the technical stuff when it comes to engines. I only know really Basic crap. I have always told myself that I would never trust nitrous, I am afraid of it damaging the engine,even if it is installed correctly somehow. And I dont wanna hurt my beast! Although this kit seems like a "smart" safe kit after reading up on it. My questions now is. How much do you think it will cost to have this kit installed. (See....I have to have a professional install it cause i wouldnt know how to ..lol) Also......when I am at teh strip. How do you use it? detail please lol Oh and Wtf does WOT mean? I see people saying that nitrous should be sprayed at WOT? I am guess that means when you floor it? Please excuse my retardedness. narf __________________ 2002 Mustang GT Coupe 5-Speed Performance K&N Intake Accufab upper Intake Plenum Accufab 70mm Throttle Body Steeda Pullies SCT 4-Bank Chip Dyno Tuned Mac H-pipe Flowmaster Cat-Back Steeda Shifter Centerforce Clutch SLP-Line-Lock And more upgrades visually

05-02-2005, 07:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
NoKturnaL MustangTuning 5-oh Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Peabody, MA Posts: 1,950	nevermind . i just saw MT#1's "Venom this is how it works" heh nice write up __________________ 2002 Mustang GT Coupe 5-Speed Performance K&N Intake Accufab upper Intake Plenum Accufab 70mm Throttle Body Steeda Pullies SCT 4-Bank Chip Dyno Tuned Mac H-pipe Flowmaster Cat-Back Steeda Shifter Centerforce Clutch SLP-Line-Lock And more upgrades visually

05-02-2005, 07:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,339	you might wanna try the zex dry kit. its very very safe. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

05-02-2005, 07:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,374	WOT = Wide Open Throttle As the resident Venom expert around here (self appointed naturally), fire away. I can answer all these questions or any others (lol). I would say $300 - $400 for a professional instal. Try to find a local Ricer performance shop if you can. Why? Because you are more likely to find someone with experience with a Venom system AND most of these kids do very professional looking jobs. Venom systems have not really hit the domestic market hard yet. Don't fear it too much. When you get it in, read the instructions carefully over and over. It is not that hard to install. I can help you with it here or even over the phone as can a few others around here. If I were to install another one, it would be a 2 hour job with two of us doing the work if we had everything we needed. The hardest part is determining where everything needs to go. Have you seen my video? That might help too. If you want to try it yourself, let me know and we can break the jobs up into simple small steps. I can give you assignments by telling you exactly what to do next. Great thing about nitrous is that you can work on an install here and there and still drive the car. If you have NOT read this thread, please read it. It should help: http://www.mustangtuningforums.com/showthread.php?t=362 __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

05-02-2005, 08:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,374	see comments above __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

05-02-2005, 07:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
bikerjoe bikesrok Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: miami, fl 305 Posts: 703	WOT wide open throttle i to didnt like the idea of nitrous until recently... im thinking of getting this kit also its probly the safest kit out there..idiot proof

05-03-2005, 11:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
NoKturnaL MustangTuning 5-oh Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Peabody, MA Posts: 1,950	What does it feel like to be at WOT and then get sprayed?? Does ya head fly back and hit the headrest?.....lol Can u hear the nitro spraying? MT#1....I think u should come up here and install the Venom kit for me! I'll pay ya $100. __________________ 2002 Mustang GT Coupe 5-Speed Performance K&N Intake Accufab upper Intake Plenum Accufab 70mm Throttle Body Steeda Pullies SCT 4-Bank Chip Dyno Tuned Mac H-pipe Flowmaster Cat-Back Steeda Shifter Centerforce Clutch SLP-Line-Lock And more upgrades visually

05-03-2005, 11:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,339	unlike in the movies you cant hear when you spray but it does toss you back in the seat a bit. well depends on the hp setting. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

05-04-2005, 02:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
Joe Friday I Carry A Badge Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 128	nitrous is some good ****. But if you don't know anything about it I wouldn't reccomend picking it up, your plastic manifold won't appriciate it much. If used properley and not to big of a shot 75-100 you should be alright if you want to risk it __________________ -Adrian -2000 "Black" GT / 8.8 @ 79 / 1.9 60ft

05-04-2005, 09:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,339	you can blow it with a 50shot. all you gott get is a window switch and spray above 3k rpms and off about 500rpms before your rev limiter. thats how you keep from tossing your intakes salad. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

05-04-2005, 01:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
Samsstang Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 371	Man dont scare the guy! Ive had my VCN 1000 for almost 5yrs on a stock tune, stock injectors, STOCK PLASTIC INTAKE, stock fuel pump and I got it when nobody was really familiar with this kit! I ran the biggest shot it came with all last year "Silver nozzle" rated @ 80-90HP shot. My best run was a 13.39 @ 5000ft+ above sea level with 3:73s and stock suspension, spare tire, jack and my wife in the passenger side :toothy10: The Kit is really safe a little to SAFE if you ask me! I let my teenage son run it 2yrs ago with the 70 shot he missed third gear scared the SH# out of me :icon_pale and still ran a 13.8 @ 101mph. The car is still with the plastic intake to this date and since i cant afford a Bullit or P51 right now thats what it'll run with :icon_prof This year I hope to do better with the Mods in my sig. __________________ 99GT 35th Anniv Edition #4323* 01 Roush Stage 2 #6586

05-04-2005, 02:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,374	I second Sam. if you want safe nitrous, Venom is the way to go. hard to dick this system up...lots of safety devices built right in for under $600. I just pulled my plugs again over the weekend. They look completely perfect too. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

05-04-2005, 02:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,339	yeah if your scared i would agree that or the zex is the best idea for you. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

05-04-2005, 05:15 PM	#18 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,374	This is my most humble, professional opinion: 1 - Before using nitrous, read, read, and read. And ask lots of questions just like you are. BUT, don't believe everything you hear. I know that's is contradicting, but there are some morons out there giving wrong info. Learn to separate wrong info, from opinions. (not pointing at anyone here...these guys are doing a great job helping). 2 - ZEX ia a nice, safe simple system to install. 3 - Venom is an even safer system that is harder to install. 4 - Be careful listening to the "nitrous pros" spraying at 200 shot for advice. Some of these guys have lost touch with what it was like to be the ocassional user. You don't need everything that they need to spray. 5 - If you want to have some fun and be safe and not spend a ton of money, buy the ZEX or the Venom and limit your spray to about a 75 - 80 or even 90 range. Risks increas a lot as you move up. You can even get away with stock plugs and stock timing and stock fuel system. When you begin to move up in spray, then the costs and complications increase. This is always something you can do later. 6 - Learn to read plugs! Case in point, Me. I have been running at about a 90 rwhp shot with Zero problems. With my bolt-ons, I feel my fuel system is probably about tapped-out. I have added other features such as nice switches and bottle warmer. I then added an SCT nitrous tune, retarded my timing, and now have a larger fuel pump and injectors waiting to go in. I read my plugs regularly! Eventually, I will jump to a 125. Then, I will need to start worrying about my rear-end with my 4.10's, but I am sure the 75 shot is almost as fun as a 125 and a lot less expensive to use. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

05-04-2005, 05:20 PM	#19 (permalink)
TonyStangs Mustang Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 272	where is a good choice for the bottle location if you don't want anyone to know about it a.k.a ppl who carpool and open the trunk and backseat often also, my car does 0-60 in the low 5's right now, can i expect high 4's with nitrous? __________________ --__-- My 2002 Mustang GT --__-- - Urethane Cobra R Front Bumper - K&N Air Charger Intake - Mach 1 Grille Delete and Lip Spoiler (Painted To Match) - Side View Mirrors (Painted To Match) - 18x9/18x10 Chrome Saleen Wheels w/ Nitto Tires - Brembo Drilled/Slotted Rotors - Steeda Tri-Ax Short Shifter - Brake Calipers (Painted To Match) - Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - Tokico Struts/Shocks - Magnaflow Magnapack Cat-Back - MAC Off-Road H-Pipe - SCT Superchips XCaliber Tuner