Windsor or Romeo????

red281gt · 10-12-2006, 09:54 AM

OK so im trying to figure out if i have a windsor block and heads or a romeo. well the thing that bugs me is the vin's engine code is an X which identifies it as a Windsor BUT..... if you look in the oil fill hole you can see that there are cam bridge caps which every where i look says that only Romeo engines/cylinder heads have those and windsors have regular caps. and shows all signs of being a romeo head. And i think that is funny because all mustang repair manuals(Chilton's, Haynes) for this year do not list this engine code X for the 96-98 mustang's does this sound weird to any of you guys? cuz im stumped

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 10-12-2006, 09:57 AM

all that # in the vin tells you is its a 4.6 nothing in the vin will tell you if its a R or W thats just a tall-tale, bad info.

r3dn3ck · 10-12-2006, 10:03 AM

IIRC the number of valve cover bolts can tell you but, if the cam caps are ladder style then it should be a romeo engine.

red281gt · 10-12-2006, 10:06 AM

mmmkay... another queston is it true that the windsor engines are stronger than Romeo.

3V2000GT · 10-12-2006, 10:16 AM

11 bolt romeo, windsor 13 bolt

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 10-12-2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by red281gt

mmmkay... another queston is it true that the windsor engines are stronger than Romeo.

no, not really. the Windsor do use the Cobra con-rods and full floating pistons and pins but thats its, so in that aspect it maybe stronger but not that much, I've seen plenty of both come apart

bassman97 · 10-12-2006, 11:01 AM

FRPP actual says to look at the 8th digit of the vin to see if you have a Windsor or Romeo block so you know which flywheel to get. However, I too have the X there and my engine is a Romeo. So, the surest way to tell is to look at the heads, crankshaft, or see if there is a W on the block.

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 10-12-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bassman97

FRPP actual says to look at the 8th digit of the vin to see if you have a Windsor or Romeo block so you know which flywheel to get. However, I too have the X there and my engine is a Romeo. So, the surest way to tell is to look at the heads, crankshaft, or see if there is a W on the block.

yeah, again there is nothing in the vin that tells you Windsor or Romeo, it just bad info thats been passed around for awhile and as stated above the best way is to count the # of bolts on the cam covers, not the heads (because 2 of the bolts are on the chain cover not the cyl head). Romeo is 11 bolts and Windsors are 13/14 bolts

bassman97 · 10-12-2006, 11:41 AM

That's what I meant by the heads, also, the caps vs. girdle.

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 10-12-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bassman97

That's what I meant by the heads, also, the caps vs. girdle.

understand that and I wasn't pointing a finger at you

even thought I quoted your post. I just had to make it clear for all the newb's

bassman97 · 10-12-2006, 12:54 PM

No problem.

10-12-2006, 09:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
red281gt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alexandria VA Posts: 545	Windsor or Romeo???? OK so im trying to figure out if i have a windsor block and heads or a romeo. well the thing that bugs me is the vin's engine code is an X which identifies it as a Windsor BUT..... if you look in the oil fill hole you can see that there are cam bridge caps which every where i look says that only Romeo engines/cylinder heads have those and windsors have regular caps. and shows all signs of being a romeo head. And i think that is funny because all mustang repair manuals(Chilton's, Haynes) for this year do not list this engine code X for the 96-98 mustang's does this sound weird to any of you guys? cuz im stumped __________________ Matt Brooks Sig by me!

10-12-2006, 09:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
Randy Stinchcomb Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 2,734	all that # in the vin tells you is its a 4.6 nothing in the vin will tell you if its a R or W thats just a tall-tale, bad info. __________________ Randy Stinchcomb contact info: Liberty Ford of Baltimore 410-655-2000 parts ext 5618 like to fish visit us at www.sportfisherman.com need fishing tackle www.binnacletackle.com

10-12-2006, 10:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
red281gt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alexandria VA Posts: 545	mmmkay... another queston is it true that the windsor engines are stronger than Romeo. __________________ Matt Brooks Sig by me!

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10-12-2006, 10:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,005	IIRC the number of valve cover bolts can tell you but, if the cam caps are ladder style then it should be a romeo engine.

10-12-2006, 11:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
bassman97 blank Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,485	FRPP actual says to look at the 8th digit of the vin to see if you have a Windsor or Romeo block so you know which flywheel to get. However, I too have the X there and my engine is a Romeo. So, the surest way to tell is to look at the heads, crankshaft, or see if there is a W on the block.

10-12-2006, 11:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
bassman97 blank Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,485	That's what I meant by the heads, also, the caps vs. girdle.

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bassman97 blank Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,485	No problem.

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