PI heads for a 98 gt

phil_the_thrill · 09-14-2006, 10:16 AM

i was just wondering how many extra parts i would need to put 99+ pi heads on my 98 gt. Also i was wondering how labor intensive it is to put on pi heads. any comments and or pictures will help a bunch. thanks

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-14-2006, 10:25 AM

do you already have a set of heads?

phil_the_thrill · 09-14-2006, 10:26 AM

no but i was looking on the internet and i have found a few places that i could get them for pretty cheap. they come with the cams and gear but i was wondering what other stuff i might need

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-14-2006, 10:39 AM

well first off stay away from Windsor heads as it will cost more to use them on a Romeo engine. second, look for the intake wth the improved aluminum cross-over. after you get those parts, you'll need gaskets, bolts, tubes, O-rings and some other misc parts and your looking at @$500.00 for all that. as far as install, I've seen anywhere from $500.00 to $1000.00 for doing the swap.

phil_the_thrill · 09-14-2006, 10:54 AM

so you think it would be more work than one person would want to tackle in a weekend?

r3dn3ck · 09-14-2006, 11:03 AM

if you know what you're doing in general.. it's a solid days work, maybe 2. If you have a friend to help it's a good weekend deal but I'd have a week available in case something doesn't work right... or take it to a shop and spend the grand to have them do it.

phil_the_thrill · 09-14-2006, 11:04 AM

alirght guys thanks for all the information

phil_the_thrill · 09-14-2006, 11:31 AM

you wouldnt happen to have a link of an intake that you were talking about would you? im not really sure what intake to get

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-14-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by phil_the_thrill

you wouldnt happen to have a link of an intake that you were talking about would you? im not really sure what intake to get

well, I have genuine Ford intakes in stock at @$249.00 and can supply you wth everything you need for the swap. we sell only new genuine Ford parts.

bassman97 · 09-14-2006, 12:51 PM

Basically, you're looking for the 01 (or 02, forgot when the switched to the aluminum cross-over) and up stock intake manifold.

DropTopPony · 09-14-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by phil_the_thrill

so you think it would be more work than one person would want to tackle in a weekend?

Its a weekend job for 2 if you allow for beer breaks...Not hard just tedious. Pick up a Ford Repair manual or a Haynes or Chilton book to help guide you along.

here is a write up if you need it.
http://www.eccentrix.com/members/46m.../headswap.html

phil_the_thrill · 09-14-2006, 01:13 PM

thanks for all the info and the write up

Saleen S330 · 09-15-2006, 09:51 AM

yeah very easy to do.Just take your time on it. I have a set of 2002 PI heads that i can sell you for cheap, just pm me. thanks.

phil_the_thrill · 09-15-2006, 12:32 PM

i was wondering if i bought those 2002 pi heads what all specifically would i need to get? i kow id need a new intake but im just trying to add up how much all this is gonna cost and start rounding up the parts now. also, would i have to get it tuned after i put the heads on? gotta crunch the numbers cause im on a tight budget at college.

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-15-2006, 12:41 PM

you should get a tune to maximize the combo. well just and FYI, heads are between $200.00 and $400.00 each, intake is between $150.00 to $250.00 and the misc gaskets, tubes, o-rings bolts and misc other stuff is @$500.00 and labor is anywhere from $500.00 to $1000.00 then add @$350.00 to $500.00 for dyno time and a tune, oh and while its apart, it's a good time to install headers, @$500.00 a set for long tubes

phil_the_thrill · 09-15-2006, 01:31 PM

hey would this kit pretty much cover all the misc things i need besides the intake?

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=2606

DropTopPony · 09-15-2006, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_the_thrill

hey would this kit pretty much cover all the misc things i need besides the intake?

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=2606

No thats only some of the parts you will need...Randy can hook you up with what you need and give you some of the best deals too.

phil_the_thrill · 09-15-2006, 04:46 PM

would i be able to drive my car without getting it tuned or would it damage the engine? i know i wont see as much of a gain without a tune but is it safe to drive it without getting it tuned?

DropTopPony · 09-15-2006, 04:52 PM

I never had mine tuned after my pi swap but it would help alot. The car was like a totally different beast afterward but it only was a few weeks before i ordered the VT heads/Cams

Now that isn't enough so i'm working on a blower combo.

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-16-2006, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_the_thrill

would i be able to drive my car without getting it tuned or would it damage the engine? i know i wont see as much of a gain without a tune but is it safe to drive it without getting it tuned?

safe to drive, yes as alot of people go wthout getting a tune.

phil_the_thrill · 09-18-2006, 12:31 PM

ive been searching on the internet to make a list of all the parts ill need. please try to fill in the gaps or let me know of something thats on here that i wont need.

4.6L PI Cylinder Heads (complete)
PI Intake Manifold (with aluminum water crossover passage)
Intake Gaskets
Thermostat and O-Ring
Thermostat Housing Bolts
Heater Hose (for the different runner length of the PI Intake)
Heater Hose Nipple
Alternator Bracket and Bolts
Dipstick Tube
Camshaft Bolts
Head Gaskets
Exhaust Gaskets
Valve Cover Gaskets
Timing Cover Gaskets
Water Pump Gasket
OEM Ford Head Bolts
Motorcraft Spark Plugs

bassman97 · 09-18-2006, 12:44 PM

I believe the gaskets for the valve covers, water pump, and timing cover are reusable, if undamaged.

phil_the_thrill · 09-18-2006, 12:45 PM

so other than those things that i dont need i didnt leave anything off the list?

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-18-2006, 01:02 PM

water pump 0-ring, coolant tube under the intake, front crank seal, crank bolt, coolant, rh exhaust down-pipe gasket, oil and oil filter and I would get ALL the gaskets, even if they are re-usable. nothing like being in the middle of a job on saturday night only to find the cam cover gaskets is dammaged or missing and you have to wait 3 or 4 days toget another. I tell all my customers this and to get all the parts, that way your not stuck in the middle of the job and when your done, just return the un-used parts for a re-fund.

09-14-2006, 10:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	PI heads for a 98 gt i was just wondering how many extra parts i would need to put 99+ pi heads on my 98 gt. Also i was wondering how labor intensive it is to put on pi heads. any comments and or pictures will help a bunch. thanks __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-14-2006, 10:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
Randy Stinchcomb Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 2,754	do you already have a set of heads? __________________ Randy Stinchcomb contact info: Liberty Ford of Baltimore 410-655-2000 parts ext 5618 like to fish visit us at www.sportfisherman.com need fishing tackle www.binnacletackle.com

09-14-2006, 10:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	no but i was looking on the internet and i have found a few places that i could get them for pretty cheap. they come with the cams and gear but i was wondering what other stuff i might need __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-14-2006, 10:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Randy Stinchcomb Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 2,754	well first off stay away from Windsor heads as it will cost more to use them on a Romeo engine. second, look for the intake wth the improved aluminum cross-over. after you get those parts, you'll need gaskets, bolts, tubes, O-rings and some other misc parts and your looking at @$500.00 for all that. as far as install, I've seen anywhere from $500.00 to $1000.00 for doing the swap. __________________ Randy Stinchcomb contact info: Liberty Ford of Baltimore 410-655-2000 parts ext 5618 like to fish visit us at www.sportfisherman.com need fishing tackle www.binnacletackle.com

09-14-2006, 10:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	so you think it would be more work than one person would want to tackle in a weekend? __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-14-2006, 11:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,018	if you know what you're doing in general.. it's a solid days work, maybe 2. If you have a friend to help it's a good weekend deal but I'd have a week available in case something doesn't work right... or take it to a shop and spend the grand to have them do it.

09-14-2006, 11:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	alirght guys thanks for all the information __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-14-2006, 11:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	you wouldnt happen to have a link of an intake that you were talking about would you? im not really sure what intake to get __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-14-2006, 12:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
bassman97 blank Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,497	Basically, you're looking for the 01 (or 02, forgot when the switched to the aluminum cross-over) and up stock intake manifold.

09-14-2006, 01:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	thanks for all the info and the write up __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-15-2006, 09:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
Saleen S330 Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 900	yeah very easy to do.Just take your time on it. I have a set of 2002 PI heads that i can sell you for cheap, just pm me. thanks.

09-15-2006, 12:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	i was wondering if i bought those 2002 pi heads what all specifically would i need to get? i kow id need a new intake but im just trying to add up how much all this is gonna cost and start rounding up the parts now. also, would i have to get it tuned after i put the heads on? gotta crunch the numbers cause im on a tight budget at college. __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-15-2006, 12:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
Randy Stinchcomb Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 2,754	you should get a tune to maximize the combo. well just and FYI, heads are between $200.00 and $400.00 each, intake is between $150.00 to $250.00 and the misc gaskets, tubes, o-rings bolts and misc other stuff is @$500.00 and labor is anywhere from $500.00 to $1000.00 then add @$350.00 to $500.00 for dyno time and a tune, oh and while its apart, it's a good time to install headers, @$500.00 a set for long tubes __________________ Randy Stinchcomb contact info: Liberty Ford of Baltimore 410-655-2000 parts ext 5618 like to fish visit us at www.sportfisherman.com need fishing tackle www.binnacletackle.com

09-15-2006, 01:31 PM	#16 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	hey would this kit pretty much cover all the misc things i need besides the intake? http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=2606 __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-15-2006, 04:46 PM	#18 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	would i be able to drive my car without getting it tuned or would it damage the engine? i know i wont see as much of a gain without a tune but is it safe to drive it without getting it tuned? __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-15-2006, 04:52 PM	#19 (permalink)
DropTopPony Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jersey Posts: 18	I never had mine tuned after my pi swap but it would help alot. The car was like a totally different beast afterward but it only was a few weeks before i ordered the VT heads/Cams Now that isn't enough so i'm working on a blower combo. __________________ Bob 96 GT Vert http://www.cardomain.com/id/droptoppony < My Cardomain

09-18-2006, 12:31 PM	#21 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	ive been searching on the internet to make a list of all the parts ill need. please try to fill in the gaps or let me know of something thats on here that i wont need. 4.6L PI Cylinder Heads (complete) PI Intake Manifold (with aluminum water crossover passage) Intake Gaskets Thermostat and O-Ring Thermostat Housing Bolts Heater Hose (for the different runner length of the PI Intake) Heater Hose Nipple Alternator Bracket and Bolts Dipstick Tube Camshaft Bolts Head Gaskets Exhaust Gaskets Valve Cover Gaskets Timing Cover Gaskets Water Pump Gasket OEM Ford Head Bolts Motorcraft Spark Plugs __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-18-2006, 12:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
bassman97 blank Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,497	I believe the gaskets for the valve covers, water pump, and timing cover are reusable, if undamaged.

09-18-2006, 12:45 PM	#23 (permalink)
phil_the_thrill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Troy, Missouri Posts: 246	so other than those things that i dont need i didnt leave anything off the list? __________________ Now accepting donations! If you do the speed limit then get the f*** out of my way! "America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed." -Eleanor Roosevelt Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.

09-18-2006, 01:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
Randy Stinchcomb Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 2,754	water pump 0-ring, coolant tube under the intake, front crank seal, crank bolt, coolant, rh exhaust down-pipe gasket, oil and oil filter and I would get ALL the gaskets, even if they are re-usable. nothing like being in the middle of a job on saturday night only to find the cam cover gaskets is dammaged or missing and you have to wait 3 or 4 days toget another. I tell all my customers this and to get all the parts, that way your not stuck in the middle of the job and when your done, just return the un-used parts for a re-fund. __________________ Randy Stinchcomb contact info: Liberty Ford of Baltimore 410-655-2000 parts ext 5618 like to fish visit us at www.sportfisherman.com need fishing tackle www.binnacletackle.com