Ok so I went out tonight and ended up running into an 01 GT. The thing was REALLY NICE. It was actually a GT but it had ALL bullitt stuff on it. All OEM stuff like seats, doorsills, intake manifold, exhaust tips.... We ran 3 times. He pulled maybe 1+ cars on me from a 40 roll on motor. It was on stock H pipe but it had a Densecharger CAI on it. I sprayed a 50 shot on him 2 times and I pulled 2-3 cars.....

Well anyways....I found out that he actually used to have a real bullitt mustang but he wrecked it. He transferred all the parts onto his new GT. Only thing is, he still has the bullit motor with just 47,000 miles on it. He said I could get it off his hands for $800 bucks....

Now its just the longblock since he swapped the intake onto his new GT. Another thing is the timing cover is broken from the accident but he said nothing else was damaged. He lives 10 minutes down the road from me and I could easily go look at it. I thought I might want to ****** up this deal....what do you guys think?

I have been wanting a forged engine and thats what ive been saving for but I have enough to buy this guys motor right now. I thought I can just buy the motor and just have it in case my motor goes. Doesnt the Bullitt come with a Cobra crank? Maybe I can buy a forged rotating assembly and have it installed in the engine before my motor gives up. Does this sound like a good deal?

 

forged engine for 800 bones?! what are you waiting for??

 

The only difference between a bullitt motor and a regular GT motor was the different intake. Did he forge the internals?

 

Well considering you can have the COMPLETE engine for 800. Or you can go buy the intake and all parts for the same cost, might as well have the engine, right?

Personally, id go forged but thats just me.

 

He said longblock, minus the bullitt intake, i guess minus a front timing cover too. But 800 bucks for a longblock with 47K miles still isn't bad. A new bullitt intake about 1K and then the kit to install everything, another 1K. You can sell one set of your PI heads, since your car has them and the bullitt has them, and make some money back.

 

Oh well its just the stock block with 47K on it. If i do buy this, I will keep it in the garage and eventually add a forged assembly to it or maybe jjust ported heads and cams. Either that or try to save $3400 for a fully forged shortblock. But its hard for me to save that much sometimes and I dont know If I can do that this summer or not.

 

I think the price is OK/good and I will tell you why. I just recently bought a 2003 GT motor off of a Saleen with 7500 miles on it. Now, I got an exceptionally good deal, but I also did a lot of shopping and here is what I learned.

First, you can buy a brand-new long block for $2300. Sure, that is a far cry from $800, but that would be a motor with a 3 year warrenty and no miles on the ticker. BUT, we all have budgets and I understand.

Second, you can buy a used motor with similar miles with a warrenty (90 days) for about $900. Warrenties might be longer then that....just going from memory.

Third, you can buy a re-man motor with a 3 year warrenty (or maybe it's a one year...sorry) for about $1100 to $1200.

So, you can see that this deal you are looking at is in the ball-park and nothing exceptional. If the motor had the bullit intake, then that would be a better deal. If you new the guy and new how he took care of it, that might make the deal better or worse.

In my case, I paid $700 and got the clutch too, but had to buy new timing covers.

Keep in mind if you need to pay for labor and a tune, expect to drop about $1500. So, if you are going to do the swap, be sure to do it once so you don't have to do it again. This is why some are saying to just get a built motor. BTW, built motors don't have warrenties if that is important to you.

 

A Bullcrap engine has 5 lil ponies more than the stock GT. The 5 are found in the intake. Anyone who buys a Bullitt intake as a performance part would be CRAZY. The Bullitt doesn't have forged anything. Check out KarKraft.com for some good deals on Complete/Long or Short blocks. The selection ranges from slightly used to new. If your looking for forged internals and you turn wrenches look into a Rotating Assembly. Most of them out there come with a Crank either cast/forged,forged rods and your choice of pistons/rings and rod/main bearings. Balancing is usually extra. BEWARE of any rotating assemblies on E-Bay I've read alot of bad comments on some of them. All the Big guys have quality rotating assemblies though like Sean Hyland,DSS Racing,VT,Livernois and KeithCraft to name a few.Good Luck finding what your looking for.

 

The "bullcrap" intake is only good for a ew ponies, but great for the spray...and it looks cool too.

 

also good if you plan to get cams

 

Yeah it's good for the spray and for blown applications also,produce better results.

 

I buy a lot of modulars to resale... a 4.6 PI motor is worth about 300 bucks to me and I usually sell them for 500-700. 800 is a little tall but not un-worth it. I'd save the money though unless you're needing a motor... they're just a GT motor with a diff intake, and he's already took the intake off.

 

That "Bullcrap" intake allowed him to walk me on the top end...... and he just had intake, tune, MGW shifter, 315s w/ 10.5s, CAI, and a cat back. From the way it pulled on me, seems like its worth some decent power. He may have had a high flow x pipe on there im not really sure because it was loud and he said it still had the convertors on it.

I know for sure that the engine wasnt just drove to the grocery store and back. Im sure he raced it some. But for 47,000 miles and no power adder I think it should be in great shape.... See the reason why I am wanting a new motor is because mine has racked up 92,000 miles from driving back and forth to work. I have to drive overe 40 miles one way to work every morning.

The car runs fine but if I ever got caught in a situation where I lost the motor....I would be out of a car for awhile......I am thinking of it as kind of an investment, so I always know the car will last because I wont be trading it in on a new one. I think I may try to haggle the price down or at least see if he can toss in his old PI intake if he still has it.

 

I would try to haggle him down somemore like you said and start saving for a forged rotating assembly. You can always make money off the extra heads and your motor later even if it doesn't run you might make a little bit.

 

offer him 500 and call it even. If you smoke your existing motor a transplant is pretty easy and you won't have to be without a car for too long. I'd be more worried about tranny damage than engine damage but it's a helluva good plan. No fair thinking logically.

 

All I'm saying is your giving the 5 H.P.intake too much credit.

Question if you take a Bullitt intake off of a Bullitt engine is it still a Bullitt long block or a GT Engine without the intake?

 

the only difference between the two is the intake.

There is no way to give the Bullit intake too much credit as a pimp design. It's an incredible design that is just wonderful in most applications. You'd think they designed it to work well with boost. It's strong, relatively light (compared to a 5.0L intake). in NA trim, it's not at home. (see below for comment on that)

It is 99% unlikely that merely having a Bullit intake will make a damn bit of difference in a street race between otherwise similar NA GT's.

The biggest mistake ford ever made was putting the Bullit intake on a motor that didn't make any real use of it. Gave it a bad name.

 

:banana:

I went to go look at the motor today..... When I got there I saw the wrecked Bullitt, and it was gorgeous except for it had no front end.....I looked at the car and it looked like brand new. The seats,carpet, everthing and it didnt look like it had very many miles on it....

He had the engine still atattched to the K-member sitting on the ground under the car, but he pulled it out for me to look at. We took the valve covers off, everything looked great. Then we took the intake off and the block is in great shape from what I can tell, plus there was hardly any carbon buildup in the intake and heads. The engine was dirty, but it wasnt stained, all the stickers looked new, and its complete from throttle body to K-member! lol.....There was also Not even a trace of oil anywhere on the engine or inside it, except for behind the timing cover. The damage to it was pretty good. The block wasnt harmed, or the heads. The timing cover has a huge hole in it, the belt tensioner is ripped off, the timing chain tensioners on one side are destroyed, and I have to replace a dowel pin. All of those thing can just be swapped off my old motor and put on this one when the time comes. Ill buy new timing chain tensioners though, cause his were pretty worn, and he said thats pretty normal wear.....

This guy also said he can pull the engine out of my car in less than 4 hours.....He said hes been working on racecars and street cars for a long time. He seems to know more about mustangs than I do. He has to wait till thursday before he can sell it because he already had someone looking at it. He said he didnt like them though and didnt think they really wanted it anyways. So as long as everything goes right, I should be picking up the motor next week! Ill have to buy a camera and post pics of it before the modding begins.....

 

Settled the deal today for $500! Picking the engine up tomorrow!:banana:

 

that's a pretty good deal. Well done. Are you going to build it or just have it as a spare?

 

I am going to modify it as much as I can before my engine gets too many miles and starts smoking. Ill start with a DSS Main Support System and a Canton oil pan. I may sell the heads and intake. I saw them selling for $1000 on ebay. Then Ill take that money, save some more, and buy some ported heads and cams for around $1500. After that point, Ill start saving for a forged rotating assembly, have the engine put together, and slide that baby in!

 

Does this cat wanna sell the gauge backings? I've been hunting for a Bullit/MachI gauge set up, I don't care for the white face that much.

 

Sorry, he swapped the gauge faces onto his GT. I know those things are impossible to find. He is tryinh to sell the car now that I have the motor. He sold the tranny. He has the bullitt side scoops, c pillars, sideskirts, rear seat backs, and alot more. I think he is trying to keep all that stuff on there so he can sell the car as an actual bullitt. Hes trying to get rid of it, so its going for a good price im sure.

I have the Upper/lower intake, alternator, injectors, fuel rail, and headers sitting in my room now. I have to wait until next week before I can pick up the longblock.....We took all that stuff off in order to lighten up the motor. Its weighs like 400 pounds......

Maybe when I have some free time, Ill yank the old 94,000 mile injectors out and install these 47,000 mile ones, just cause I can.....

 

Thats a hell of a deal.....I wish I could get some deal like that