Matt, you simply can not be prepared for that. Nothing can prepare you. It might make it easier to accept, but that is it. Keep in mind that her son could have also joined against her will....she may have not been for the decision.

Is she dishonering her son's death? She probably does not think so, in fact, she probably feels that she is drawing worth to it,

Is she a pain in the azz? Absolutely! Should she move on with her life? Probably.

The worst part of all this is that after her 15 minutes of fame, nothing will be different. Her son will still be dead, more soldiers will keep getting killed, and hopefully there will be no more terriorist attacks.

 

dude u can't be serious? thats not an agrument....he knew the risks so he got what was coming??? wtf are u saying.....


Mt#1 I agree completely with you, and it is true the military has been there as a finacial option for hundreds of years...Just look at Vietnam before the draft, it wasn't until after WWII that the stigma of battlefeild glory subsided and the reality of war was understood by the general public. Even today thats not quite realized as much.

By the way she was not arrested, she was detained... and if you didn't notice only half the assembly clapped for Bush, some of the democrates were reading books, and none were paying any attention...

Like MT#1 said, she doesn't believe she's dishonoring her son's memory...for all you know he could have been that small part of the military that IS liberal...

Just like the first gulf war the guyz over there whether they support the war or not, aren't exactly enjoying themselves over there, sept for a few of the crazy ones....my AI's used to tell us they hated every moment of being in Iraq the first time...

Point and Case, why do you care so much about one woman's grief?

 

ha ha ha....you crack me up with the Cali floating away thing. Please just come out to Los Angeles or San Diego for a few days and I promise you'll love it! Your eyes would freaking pop out of your head when you see how hot the girls are out here.....all those dumb broads you see in Maxim and every other magazine are a feaking dime-a-dozen out here!

Anyway, did you guys see the Capitol Police dismissed the charges against Sheehan and then apologized to her.

 

yeah they had to do that legally, because they detained her illegally...

 

from what I read.... I guess some Congressman's wife had a t-shirt on that said something like "support the troops" and she got removed from the gallery also.

 

yeah, but I'm saying that as the police are concerned, they can't just arrest someone for showing up, they have to do something. That and I don't see how she could have possibly been invited inside...

That and yeah i heard about that too, its just gettin rediculous...If I was there I'd have worn this shirt!...

 

To answer the question that Grimmzziez brought up, I care because this woman is shoving it all in our faces. She's made her "case and point" a long time ago and her consistancy is actually doing more harm than good.

Like it was previouslly mentioned in her mind she's honoring the death of her son, but she's also dishonoring the lives of others who have died in the line who may not agree with her.

She needs to move on to more intimate relms of support and grief, family, friends, ect.

 

ha ha....that is a funny picture. I could be wrong, but I think the Speaker sets the rules of the gallery and passes it on the the Capitol Police to enforce.....so if she broke one of those rules by wearing a "protest" shirt then they could remove her. They didn't need to detain her unless she became unruly, which I have no idea if she did or not.

 

greg greg greg......I'm not sure where to start with you my friend...ha ha...

First off, she doesn't need to be locked up for expressing her opinion..you and I might not like her opinion or her tactics, but every citiizen in this country has the right to express their opinion and if the media wants to run with it then so be it. If you did lock people up for expressing their opinion or protesting we'd be no different than China or any other communist country.

Scaring people into thinking the war is terrible.....hell yes its terrible, every war is terrible. Our family members and friends die during wars and that's why this country needs to be damn sure before sending our men and women somewhere to fight.

For me personally I think wars like Iraq are getting harder and harder for us to win is because we ***** fart around and go door to door looking for individuals.....do you think we did that crap during WWII....Hell no, we just blew everything up back to the stone age and then occupied the land. Yes, the style of war is much different, and yes the "fighters" in Iraq are cowards for not going face to face with our soldiers and putting their citizens at risk. Yes, I hate inoccent people being hurt or killed, but we are going to have a hell of a time fighting wars door to door in the future.

Just my two cents....and holy crap I'm starting to sound like a freaking redneck republican! Just blow everything up....blah blah blah....this is getting scary.

 

I just don't understand how some of you guyz claim Dems. and hippies don't support the troops and yet your sayin right there, ****'em they know what they got themselves into...

 

I'd go over there for free... without a government check... yeah I would. Call me crazy but I'd do it.

 

Of subject, but what I think is retarded : If you're in the military, you're considered not in the labor force. Other words, unemployed. Oh, that woman is a dumb hard-headed beavis biter.

 

Its funny you bring this up. I wonder what the British were saying about Americans during the Revolutionary war... :surrender
That just goes to show that with the more technology coming around the more wars will change.

 

LoL like for instance, instead of going house to house, we drop one bomb and blow the whole neighborhood up LoL (yes i know this is cynical...)

 

Well how do you fight an enemy that surrounds itself with the civilian population and hides within religious mosques? You can't drop a bomb on it because the ethics of bombing a religious site (especially islam) would **** off a lot of ****ing islamics. But you can't attack it with an M1-A2 because that also would be considered extremely unholy. They're masking themselves behind women, children and the innocent... how do you fight them?

 

Milos, Bush is still yet to find that out. Never will, because we can't find a 6'4" Osama Bin Laden...6'7" w/turbin. In a land of small people and hardly no bulding.

 

Milos....I don't know the answer to your questions....they are very good questions and if you ever come up with an answer please the let Mr. Bush know! ha ha. All I'm saying is that our troops are going to be there for a LONG time if we don't find away to freaking end this thing....

I'm also getting tired of Mr. Bush going to Congress each year and asking for $80 billion....$102 billion to fight the war....we can spend that much on a retarded war each year, but we can't stop homelessness or make sure each kid in this country doesn't go to bed hungry or go to school hungry???? Someone please explain that to me.

 

part of that 102 billion goes to the poor families in some way or another. war creates jobs and helps the economy. i dont like bush (not going to get into it right now) but war is known for creating more jobs and helping the economy. it's not like he's asking for all this money and mailing it to some other country for them to do as they wish with it.

 

No, they are not all "small" people. There are plenty of men over 6 feet tall. Plus at a distance of more than 20 feet height becomes very hard to judge with out a KNOWN variable. ie: door, car, bus, etc....

Have you been to that area of the world? I have..

I could get lost for years there. It's like the Rocky Mountains with less trees. Finding one person is not as easy as it sounds. How many people go missing in the US daily, with all our satalites, cameras, and witnesses...

 

mmmmm.....that's somewhat true, but not as true as it was during WWII...WWII we had all kinds of factories and shipyards that were creating jobs. The problem is that everything the military uses these days are highly advanced technology so you don't really have "poor people" working on alot of the stuff that is built. Yeah, I'm sure there are some jobs created, but it's not like WWII.

What the $102 billion means for this country right now is that we either cut other programs that poor people use or we go further into the larger debt....which is the largest, if not ever, but at least in a long time.

 

yeah it's nothing like WWII but i know there are jobs being created because of the war, not to mention all of the civillian jobs overseas. my buddy was doing sat communications in iraq for a year until his unit got replaced by civillians. there are lots and lots of government contracts going out to civillians for stuff like that. as well as the military increasing it's own numbers because of the war.

 

Yeah, your right about the government contracts going to people in this country, but it's still not helping the poor people that I'm talking about.....those contracts are going to contractors, communications specialists....ect.....still not helping with little ralphy and his single mom that works 3 jobs to put a roof over their heads and can only feed the kid once a day.

Anyway, we probably could on and on about this..

 

I think you read me wrong, but in response, there is only one way to win war like that...through propoganda...thats how we stopped the Germans insurgency after WWII...thats how we stopped the Japanese who had swore to fight to the death, the Japanese Kamakazi...have we forgotten already? The way you win these wars is by dropping the image that we're the big bad threat invading, and remind the people there we're here to help...

Do any of you guyz know one bit of history about Iraq? Did they know that the FBI called Ho Chi Mien a threat to the US while he was IN PARIS PRAISING THE US????... LoL... you can't just go into a country with military might... the way you win a war is to win over the people... instead of fighting each head of the serpent you go for it's heart...

That being said, we still haven't gotten Osama...this is true, but at the same time I don't know that any of the military commanders over there have an exelent understanding of the Fertile crecent for the past 2000 years...

We learned our lessons in China in regards to sending rednecks to be our global policy...(refering to the turn of the century eastern diplomacy) while I love drinkin a beer wit dem good ol boys, it takes someone that has personal experience with an area to fully understand all the aspects of diplomacy in that area....

 

thanks for the clarification-- I didn't know the answer myself but it seemed like you guys were hinting to an alternative to fighting the war, so thats why I jumped on it.

You bring up some good points Grimmzies.. but there have deffinately been some references that I found interesting-- did anybody remember when Bush first threw out the "axis of evil..." what was it, Iran, Iraq and Syria? Or North Korea or something... key is that he mentioned Iran in his very first "axis of evil" address... and **** 5 years later, guess what.

 

my $.02 the Wrong Sheehan ate the bullitt, she should be deported along wth those baldwin brothers and all the other gay hollywood celebs. *****'em, send them to canada or the mid-east, which ever comes first.

 

lmao... if only we could...