About to race a celica...

I hate fat girlz · 11-12-2005, 11:51 AM

My buddy has an 04 celica gt-s with nothing but a cold air. Those are normally slow as **** but his for some reason is abnormally fast. It must have been tuned or something in the factory. I heard it's very rare to come across a car like that. Especially a 4-banger.

I've raced him before the 1st day I got my car and he beat me by a little bit. But I had a 260 lb person in my car and I only weigh like 140.

My car is bone stock because I havent had it that long and I'm really iffy about a lot of stuff cuz I dont want to void my warranty. I raced him a few days back from a dead stop, perfectly even, and we were neck and neck until 3rd gear when I started pulling on him. Supposedly he "missed" 2nd gear. I think its pretty hard to miss 2nd. Especially on a celica.

So last night we kinda got into it and I told him the way he drives his car its going to break down in 10k miles. He says hell "own" me and my mustang is gay. I know for a fact I can take him. Especially if we race past 3rd gear.

Ok now im guna get to the point, I dont get traction for ****, I have firestone 285's in the back which are pretty good, but usually in 1st im just sitting there spinning. What do you guys normally launch at when you race? I want to get as much possible traction as I can so I can a$$ R@pe him and shut him the f^k up. So give me some advice.

B-rett · 11-12-2005, 11:53 AM

How did u lose 2 a stock celica????? is that even possible?????
sorry cant help on the launch ive neva raced from a launch i did a 15 miles per hour roll once against an rx7 and killed it and thats been the only time ive raced

*madmatt* · 11-12-2005, 11:54 AM

Yea, "tuned" or not, you shouldnt have any trouble. They are like 180hp from the factory, dont know how much they weight. Anyway, Dont floor it off the line first off, you have to ease into it so you dont blow the tires off. Really, stock or not, weight or not, you shouldnt have a problem.

X-riceboy · 11-12-2005, 11:59 AM

The big advantage the Celica has over a Stang is the fact that he can rap that motor out to 8200 rpm before shifts with a close ratio six speed. Even still that motor is only makin 160hp and no torque. You should be able to take him without a problem. I launch mine at 3200 to 3500 with the tcs off and the factory tires set at 50psi. I also dont take it to the redline try to keep my shifts about 5500. Doin this has got me in to the high 13's with minimal mods at sea level.

*madmatt* · 11-12-2005, 12:02 PM

Dude, you are giving up a lot if your tires are really at 50 psi, let some air out of em, and youll get a better contact patch. And hes correct, dont have to rev it all the way to redline, as our cars make a lot of their power below the redline. Oh, and yes, turn the traction control OFF if you dont already.

stangspeed · 11-12-2005, 12:07 PM

Man you should smoke his ass....I raced a totally tricked out Vtech Integra and beat him bad...I mean bad...Take his advice though..Dont give it to much throttle right off the line..Learn to ease your clutch out slow as you accelerate..and you will launch like mad...I can pull a 20-30' burn from 1st gear once I learned how to do this..and you pick up better speed of the line as well...The trick is balancing the amount of throttle vs. clutch release coming out of 1st gear into 2nd....

X-riceboy · 11-12-2005, 12:08 PM

I tried lower psi 35to45 did the chalk mark across the tread and drive straight to see what wears off and the center ws cupping at lower pressures. 50 seems to be best my tires are worn to the tread indicators though. Time for some new rubbers.

*4.6 Love* · 11-12-2005, 12:28 PM

this is like a kids playground....will this be at the track?

I hate fat girlz · 11-12-2005, 12:35 PM

no its going to be on the street. the track here is so busy with all the gay ricers that there is no guarantee i would even get to race who i want to race. waste of 15$.

stanger00 · 11-12-2005, 12:38 PM

why would you waste your gas on a import? i wont race any ls1's anymore. cobras and vette's is all i mess with.

stanger00 · 11-12-2005, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by X-riceboy

I tried lower psi 35to45 did the chalk mark across the tread and drive straight to see what wears off and the center ws cupping at lower pressures. 50 seems to be best my tires are worn to the tread indicators though. Time for some new rubbers.

you want lower pressure so your side walls absorb the launce. which means less spin

Grimmz · 11-12-2005, 12:50 PM

DUDE WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU DRIVIN A STICK? Seriously, i've beat celica's in my lil 6 banger...you just gotta do like everyone says and not try and burn out your tires...there is no way that happened...person or not in the car with you...I've even beat a Honda Prelude with my friend in the car, and the prelude had headers exhaust CAI and a tune...you gotta be kiddin me!

Don't try and chicken wit him, and if you get a tune also you can shift alot later too...up to i think 6500 or 7000 in a GT...atleast thats what my buddies was doin...

I hate fat girlz · 11-12-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimmz

DUDE WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU DRIVIN A STICK? Seriously, i've beat celica's in my lil 6 banger...you just gotta do like everyone says and not try and burn out your tires...there is no way that happened...person or not in the car with you...I've even beat a Honda Prelude with my friend in the car, and the prelude had headers exhaust CAI and a tune...you gotta be kiddin me!

Don't try and chicken wit him, and if you get a tune also you can shift alot later too...up to i think 6500 or 7000 in a GT...atleast thats what my buddies was doin...

I smoke preludes and integras all the time, but like i said his car is abnormally fast and running more than 180hp. he can keep up with the srt-4 neons and i think those run mid 14's.

*4.6 Love* · 11-12-2005, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimmz

Don't try and chicken wit him, and if you get a tune also you can shift alot later too...up to i think 6500 or 7000 in a GT...atleast thats what my buddies was doin...

shifting a stock gt @ 6500 is the most stupidest thing i've heard. Much less 7k which a stock engine will not do. If your buddy is doing that he won't be doing it for long.

Grimmz · 11-12-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by I hate fat girlz

I smoke preludes and integras all the time, but like i said his car is abnormally fast and running more than 180hp. he can keep up with the srt-4 neons and i think those run mid 14's.

it's def. not stock then, cuz i've driven my roomates celica GTS and that **** wasn't fast at all...your tellin me that thing can go 0-60 in 5.4 seconds??? i doubt it...if so it's Def. not stock...it's stock 0-60 is 7.2 seconds...LoL

http://www.modernracer.com/toyotacelicagts.html

I hate fat girlz · 11-12-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimmz

it's def. not stock then, cuz i've driven my roomates celica GTS and that **** wasn't fast at all...your tellin me that thing can go 0-60 in 5.4 seconds??? i doubt it...if so it's Def. not stock...it's stock 0-60 is 7.2 seconds...LoL

im telling you dude, his car is WIERD fast for a piece of ass toyota. all he has is an aem cold air. i heard they use the term "factory freak" to describe these cars.

B-rett · 11-12-2005, 01:55 PM

no i dont care how much of a freak it is celica stock wit intake on it is slow.......... i raced 1 on my sisters scooter a while back i had it thru the 1/8 mile but i got tired at he got me in the 1/4 lol

MattJ · 11-12-2005, 02:12 PM

you suck at driving, regardless if his car is a factory freak or not. if you cant beat him. lol

stangspeed · 11-12-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by I hate fat girlz

im telling you dude, his car is WIERD fast for a piece of ass toyota. all he has is an aem cold air. i heard they use the term "factory freak" to describe these cars.

LOL...Have you seen under his hood? Do you know for sure its stock, with an CIA? For some strange reason Im not buying this..Even if it is tuned...It wouldnt do what you saying its doing...Something doesnt match up...

*4.6 Love* · 11-12-2005, 03:15 PM

lmao..@ the factory freak celica...

NoKturnaL · 11-12-2005, 04:13 PM

if u need advice on how to beat a stock celica..then there is a problem with your driving. there is no reason to lose to a stock celica..u should be ashamed of yourself..lol

im not going to be surprised if you need advice on racing a toyota tacoma next week.

I hate fat girlz · 11-12-2005, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by V8 SyndicateZ

if u need advice on how to beat a stock celica..then there is a problem with your driving. there is no reason to lose to a stock celica..u should be ashamed of yourself..lol

im not going to be surprised if you need advice on racing a toyota tacoma next week.

i have beat other gt's like mine that were not stock so i know there is no problem with my driving. i TAUGHT the guy with the celica how to drive his damn car, but im telling you man his car is not normal. its wierd fast for 180hp.

11-12-2005, 11:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
I hate fat girlz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 195	About to race a celica... My buddy has an 04 celica gt-s with nothing but a cold air. Those are normally slow as ** but his for some reason is abnormally fast. It must have been tuned or something in the factory. I heard it's very rare to come across a car like that. Especially a 4-banger. I've raced him before the 1st day I got my car and he beat me by a little bit. But I had a 260 lb person in my car and I only weigh like 140. My car is bone stock because I havent had it that long and I'm really iffy about a lot of stuff cuz I dont want to void my warranty. I raced him a few days back from a dead stop, perfectly even, and we were neck and neck until 3rd gear when I started pulling on him. Supposedly he "missed" 2nd gear. I think its pretty hard to miss 2nd. Especially on a celica. So last night we kinda got into it and I told him the way he drives his car its going to break down in 10k miles. He says hell "own" me and my mustang is gay. I know for a fact I can take him. Especially if we race past 3rd gear. Ok now im guna get to the point, I dont get traction for **, I have firestone 285's in the back which are pretty good, but usually in 1st im just sitting there spinning. What do you guys normally launch at when you race? I want to get as much possible traction as I can so I can a$$ R@pe him and shut him the f^k up. So give me some advice. __________________

11-12-2005, 11:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
B-rett BMC Member# 03209 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: north ridgeville, ohio Posts: 1,639	How did u lose 2 a stock celica????? is that even possible????? sorry cant help on the launch ive neva raced from a launch i did a 15 miles per hour roll once against an rx7 and killed it and thats been the only time ive raced __________________ ---35th Anniversary--- 265 rwhp 288 rwtq

11-12-2005, 11:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,929	Yea, "tuned" or not, you shouldnt have any trouble. They are like 180hp from the factory, dont know how much they weight. Anyway, Dont floor it off the line first off, you have to ease into it so you dont blow the tires off. Really, stock or not, weight or not, you shouldnt have a problem. __________________ RPMPlanets

11-12-2005, 11:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
X-riceboy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Puyallup Washington Posts: 14	The big advantage the Celica has over a Stang is the fact that he can rap that motor out to 8200 rpm before shifts with a close ratio six speed. Even still that motor is only makin 160hp and no torque. You should be able to take him without a problem. I launch mine at 3200 to 3500 with the tcs off and the factory tires set at 50psi. I also dont take it to the redline try to keep my shifts about 5500. Doin this has got me in to the high 13's with minimal mods at sea level. __________________ It's not a burnout unless you go sideways

11-12-2005, 12:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,929	Dude, you are giving up a lot if your tires are really at 50 psi, let some air out of em, and youll get a better contact patch. And hes correct, dont have to rev it all the way to redline, as our cars make a lot of their power below the redline. Oh, and yes, turn the traction control OFF if you dont already. __________________ RPMPlanets

11-12-2005, 12:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
stangspeed Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 464	Man you should smoke his ass....I raced a totally tricked out Vtech Integra and beat him bad...I mean bad...Take his advice though..Dont give it to much throttle right off the line..Learn to ease your clutch out slow as you accelerate..and you will launch like mad...I can pull a 20-30' burn from 1st gear once I learned how to do this..and you pick up better speed of the line as well...The trick is balancing the amount of throttle vs. clutch release coming out of 1st gear into 2nd.... __________________ 2000-Mustang 4.6L :Hurst Billet/Plus shifter, Steeda 3.73 gears, Sprangz Double D, BBK 75mm throttle body, C&L Trueflow Intake Plenum, Magna Flow Tru-X no cats, Magna Flow Cat Back, Demolet Cold Air Intake, Hypertech III, Coil-Over Plasma Booster, Kenny Brown Sub-frames"welded", Kenny Brown frame & rear tower braces, 4pt. G-load brace, FFRP Aluminum drive-shaft. Soon to come: "Building a 347 stroker"

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X-riceboy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Puyallup Washington Posts: 14	I tried lower psi 35to45 did the chalk mark across the tread and drive straight to see what wears off and the center ws cupping at lower pressures. 50 seems to be best my tires are worn to the tread indicators though. Time for some new rubbers. __________________ It's not a burnout unless you go sideways

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I hate fat girlz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 195	no its going to be on the street. the track here is so busy with all the gay ricers that there is no guarantee i would even get to race who i want to race. waste of 15$. __________________

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Grimmz Jack Touched Me...I Cried Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL/ Gaithersburg, MD Posts: 3,751	DUDE WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU DRIVIN A STICK? Seriously, i've beat celica's in my lil 6 banger...you just gotta do like everyone says and not try and burn out your tires...there is no way that happened...person or not in the car with you...I've even beat a Honda Prelude with my friend in the car, and the prelude had headers exhaust CAI and a tune...you gotta be kiddin me! Don't try and chicken wit him, and if you get a tune also you can shift alot later too...up to i think 6500 or 7000 in a GT...atleast thats what my buddies was doin... __________________ 2003 Manual V6 "ETHEL" My CarDomain::Updated 12/31/05:: Engine Start-Up, Rev,and Walk Around , Drive By 3.8 Mustang Forum Exhaust's DSG Registry #0032 Props to Slither for the Sig!!!

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B-rett BMC Member# 03209 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: north ridgeville, ohio Posts: 1,639	no i dont care how much of a freak it is celica stock wit intake on it is slow.......... i raced 1 on my sisters scooter a while back i had it thru the 1/8 mile but i got tired at he got me in the 1/4 lol __________________ ---35th Anniversary--- 265 rwhp 288 rwtq

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MattJ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 10,243	you suck at driving, regardless if his car is a factory freak or not. if you cant beat him. lol __________________ 2001 Mustang GT Premium - Mineral Grey

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4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,154	lmao..@ the factory freak celica... __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

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