Due to the damage to the Gulf oil production and refineries, gas is expected to go up by as much as 10%, as early as tomorrow.

Find a station and tank up guys.

Time to start drilling In Alaska, off the Coast of Florida, and in California - and time to build some new refineries - hey, are you listening Bush?

tripleblack

 

I told you to do this:

http://mustangunderground.com/uploads/files/Gas.wmv

 

I wanted to keep a low tank for the track too.

 

http://www.showmenews.com/2004/Jun/20040606News020.asp

Thats that bull**** righ there.

 

Hey guys, I know it sucks, but the sooner you accept that we are going to be getting screwed for a while, the better youll feel and the sooner youll go back to enjoying your car. I know it sucks, I pay it the same as yall, but complaining on here wont help anymore.

 

Not likely. Oil hit a high today of $70, but then dropped back all the gains it had. If the pumps go up, I am moving to Mars.

 

^ good idea. Water killed your engine....



and there's no water on mars...



problem solved!

 

You ******* go ahead....kick a guy when he is down. Nice how every dam thread around here eventually turns into smack on me.

Two words....





YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

LOL, hes going to kick your ace! Hey, Blake, Ill buy you a ticket if you are serious....jp man. Can I keep my job.

 

Nope. You are all fired. The forums are only gonna be for me and what his face...SpringStang

 

Your fired from post whoring it up...double poster

 

baaahahhahahaa. good luck with that kid.

 

What are you talking about?

 

Yeah, because Bush isn't for drilling in Alaska or the gulf of mexico or anything......

If you want to blame somebody, maybe take a look out of the libby enviro nuts that want to restrict us from ever drilling a new oil well anywhere.

 

Gas is overrated!

 

This is how I feel about it. That's me and the man. I told him we need to drill, but he sent me to the dentist:

 

Lets drill for oil. If a caribou has to walk through a little slick stuff, WHAAA. Off shore drilling too. I eat seafood about once twice a month. I need petrol.
Plus why the f%$# arent we getting somethin from saudi arabia. We bailed there sorry rich asses out of a bind. Like my boss said to me after working 64 hours in 1 week and wanting a weekend off.( Do what you gotta do). But don't let production stop. Or you will be held accountable. No weekend off. And I wil lhave extra money to buy gas

 

This looks to be an encrypted site. Can't read html (mixed with a ton of some other programming language).

Also, when did you tell me to do what?

tripleblack

 

World oil prices are not driving this particular increase. The US has only 16 major refineries making gas (other refineries do other things). As of this morning, 8 of the 16 aren't running, and some of those 8 are damaged (maybe all 8). This is 50% of our gas production guys - we're not talking about a shortage of crude, but of the factories that turn it into gasoline. (Some pumping from the Gulf is also affected, including a report that one oil rig fell off its site and crashed into a bridge in Mobile).

The reason we have so many eggs in so few refining baskets is purely political, and it is likely to really mess up the supply chain.

tripleblack

 

GW would love to drill for more oil, he's a freakin oil guy....lol...He has already allowed drilled in Alaska on closed military bases. If he does much more than that the econazis will shat a brick.

 

Long list - plenty of room for the eco-fringe to be included.

But they ARE the fringe, and the man at the top has the responsibility, not them. Its one of those situations where you either lead or get out of the way.

We're not talking a market correction to bring demand into line with supply. I was recently reviewing a study of what the US would do if we lost even one refinery to terrorists. The capacity to replace the lost gasoline with the remaining refinery capacity was simply not there.

8 refineries is a much bigger problem - we can only hope they are only temporarily shut down - or Osamma and his boys can thank Katrina for doing their job for them.

In that case, the immediate 10% increase (saw guys on ladders changing gas prices on the stations I passed on the way in this morning) is just a down payment.

One study I read said that a for every 1% of refinery capacity lost, prices would have to increase 6% to decrease demand enough to compensate.

Let's see, 50% reduction (50 x 6 = 300%). That would just about get us to $10 per gallon gas.

Lets hope that's not necessary.

Oh, and by the way, releasing crude oil from the Stategic Reserve (likely to happen today - something Bush CAN do) won't mean a thing if the refineries can't run to process it. Matter of fact, every one of the refineries directly plugged into the pipeline leading from the salt mines are currently shut down.

Meaningless symbolic gesture that will get lots of air time.

tripleblack

tripleblack

 

We also havent built a refinery in the US since the 70's.....WTF.

 

Eploratory drilling on the scattered military bases didn't find oil - so nobody cared (including me). The huge reserves further north that are well known and mapped - but forbidden drilling sites - are the ones I'm talking about.

As are the literally giant natural gas and oil deposits sitting in the Gulf off the Florida coast (again, forbidden drilling sites due to political concerns).

As are the multiple sites in California, Colorado, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

Sleepy time is over. Mommy nature has delivered a gentle little wake up call.

tripleblack

 

Yep. For political reasons. Its like trying to build a nuclear power plant - theoretically its possible, but the red tape and government requirements are so hideous that it just won't happen.

The newest refinery we have is over 30 years old. The oldest are close to 100 years old. And there's no plan to replace even one.

Leadership - it really is a problem.

tripleblack

 

LOL, this has turned into a little political debate...dont forget the analogy of internet arguments guys...

 

OK, you're right.

I just get hot when I see what's happening. And this is a clear example of the political universe exerting undue influence over our automotive lives (sort of like the 55 mph limit days).

Sorry if I strayed from the forum's focus. I'll try to do better.

tripleblack

 

Dont worry about it, but honestly, the madder you get, all it does is raise your bp. Ive come to accept we are taking it up the rear from all of them, and no amount of complaining will make it end. Life sucks lol.

 

I agree, but I do feel the finger cannot be pointed to one man thats for sure.

 

Oh, I definately agree, its not all GW's fault, they are all a bunch of greedy douches.

 

exactly....