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Lazerred6 02-25-2010 09:41 AM

Help me I'm tech retarded
 
So yesterday I got an Xbox360 and a years membership to xbox live (all for free)

What I need to know is what options I have as far as getting an internet signal to my Xbox and my computer at the same time.

Right now I can hook my ethernet cable from the modem to my computer and have internet or to my Xbox and have Xbox-live but I want both

The facts

I don't have wireless internet
my Modem has a single ethernet port and a single port for a usb cable it looks like this
http://www.sdsaram.com/data/file/boa...it_u10c018.gif
this is the exact model

Please tell me my options oh tech inclined ones

I bow before your awesome might


edit:

For a while today I tried to find a downloadable driver so I could run the usb to my computer and the ethernet cable to the xbox but I failed at the finding the driver part

NewMustangMan 02-25-2010 09:58 AM

Ok if you buy wireles router then on the back you should have four other ports to plug inot and you can still plug directly from that to your xbox and CPU.... i have a belkin that was like 60 bucks and my 360 goes directly into that but my cpu and laptop are wireless.... it has 4 ports to directly plug into so you would be ably to have both plugged in at the same time.

krenogin 02-25-2010 10:00 AM

Well. Your modem is assigned one ip address. And no two same devices can share that IP address on the network or they will have problems, and wont work.

What you need to do is buy a wired or wireless router whichever you would like best. BUT seeings how everything is close together, you could get a wired router and satisfy your needs.

It only comes with one cat5e cable, so you can get someone to make on or just get however long of one you need at walmart/bestbuy whichever place u get your router from.

After you install and set up the router you can connect both devices through the router. And the router will create a Virtual Private Network or VPN for short. What it will do is take your IP address thats assigned by your internet service provider, and use it as its connection. Then it will start IP's at 192.168.1.1 which will be its address, and its DHCP client will assign from 192.168.1.100 up to devices connected to it so they dont have the same IP.

The USB port on your modem is not to be used for internet connectivity. It's simply a port thats used to upload and update its instructions, IE to configure IP, subnet mask, PPPOE settings and all that.. Don't ever go into there or you will screw your internet up until they send someone out to reconfigure its settings.

Bottom line buy a router. I recommend Linksys, Belkin, and Netgear. They all come with CD's now so they can be set up by anybody just follow all instructions.

If you take the wireless route, the XBOX has to have a 100 dollar wireless card, and its too much money, and wired connections are much faster and have almost 0ms latency lagg.

Also note when you have your XBOX and PC connected to your router, you will experience "LAGG" on your live games if someones using the internet while you play. You may not notice it, but i'm a hardcore PC gamer and Latency means the difference between playability and not.

Hope this helps!

NewMustangMan 02-25-2010 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by krenogin (Post 450052)
Also note when you have your XBOX and PC connected to your router, you will experience "LAGG" on your live games if someones using the internet while you play. You may not notice it, but i'm a hardcore PC gamer and Latency means the difference between playability and not.

Hope this helps!


Well it also will depend on the speed of your conection. I have my laptop on and my xbox and dont have any lagg. Also my xbox is hard wired so that might be why. it goes directly to the back of my wireless modem so no need for a wireless for the xbox.

Lazerred6 02-25-2010 10:16 AM

Sweet

thanks guys I would have spent tons on time trying to figure out what to do and probably never thought to get a router

NewMustangMan 02-25-2010 10:19 AM

no prob. what games you got for your 360?

Black Sunshine 02-25-2010 10:21 AM

I'm surprised Krenogin didn't tell you to run a wire from your neighbor's cable box to your XBox, then put the other end of the wire into an electrical outlet, and then put another wire from that same outlet to your XBox and that will fix everything.

Lazerred6 02-25-2010 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by NewMustangMan (Post 450064)
no prob. what games you got for your 360?


So far just Forza 3 but today I might go get modern warfare 2 when I go to get a router

krenogin 02-25-2010 10:33 AM

I'm the R3dneck of computers and networking. as he is of cars.

NewMustangMan 02-25-2010 11:20 AM

Well hit me up oon MW2 if you get on

Lazerred6 02-25-2010 11:39 AM

My tag is BKaash if any of you guys want to add me

NewMustangMan 02-25-2010 12:05 PM

I will add you when i get home from work. mine is kalel4523

08mustang_gt 02-25-2010 03:23 PM

I loved krenogins big huge pointless explanation to just say get a wired or wireless router. Great job. Not.

I play MW2 also, and Forza 3 so I'll add you both too.

Mine spanky8004 (long story)

NewMustangMan 02-25-2010 03:31 PM

Awesome lol.... Spanky LMAO

08mustang_gt 02-25-2010 03:51 PM

Yea. I created it a while ago and I just really couldn't think of anything funny at the time but spanky. Lol.

Deathdiesel 02-25-2010 04:00 PM

Dunno if this is said above, but DO NOT GET A WIRELESS router. Ive spent so much fucking time and money with wireless shit i had enough and bought this kit that allows me to turn any electrical outlet in my house, into a ethernet port. Very good kit, although its the price of the average router, has worked flawlessly with me. Just my .02 dont even try to fuck with wireless, go wired, or not.

NewMustangMan 02-25-2010 04:02 PM

Nothing wrog with Wireless.... I have been usingit for awhile. Plus with a wireless router you can do both wireless and wired....

zigzagg321 02-25-2010 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Black Sunshine (Post 450065)
I'm surprised Krenogin didn't tell you to run a wire from your neighbor's cable box to your XBox, then put the other end of the wire into an electrical outlet, and then put another wire from that same outlet to your XBox and that will fix everything.

+100000

LMFAO!

kjbuck2 02-25-2010 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 450077)
My tag is BKaash if any of you guys want to add me

I will need to hit you up this weekend. Got MW2 from a friend. Need to finish up some Special Ops. My id is KJBUCK2.

spike_africa 02-25-2010 06:50 PM

Since they are close you just need to split them with a spliter and be done with it for cheap. keep it all wired and it will be fast and good.

Something like this will do you just fine.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/D-Link+-...=1134699430298

08mustang_gt 02-25-2010 09:05 PM

Don't get D-link.

Just leave that at that.

I've never had a problem with wireless, and in all reality its better to get a wireless router just to have it. Go with an N-router if you do though, G-wireless sucks (horrible range, horrible speed).

The issue with not getting a wireless router is that phones, game consoles, and computers are all eventually going to be wireless only so why not just go ahead and get it now.

Look at the Wii, it doesn't even come with an ethernet port out of the box, and most smart phones can use the wi-fi in your house instead of the data plan to save you money.

I say get a Linksys wireless router and call it a day. I have a Netgear and it has issues with Xbox Live so stick to Linksys if you can. Don't get D-link or any of those off brands, usually they're junk and are pains to use.

00blkstanggt 02-26-2010 07:49 AM

If you get a wireless router, you don't need the wireless adapter for xbox like Krenogin said. You can still plug the xbox directly into the router. Now if you are going to be playing in another room, then yes, the wireless adapter is needed. Just take $40-50 and buy a wireless router. You never know when you get a laptop or something and you'll want that wireless capability.

Lazerred6 02-26-2010 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 450178)
Since they are close you just need to split them with a spliter and be done with it for cheap. keep it all wired and it will be fast and good.

Something like this will do you just fine.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/D-Link+-...=1134699430298

Won't I still need a router for something like this to make everything work at the same time

Sorry guys I just really don't understand this stuff

krenogin 02-26-2010 09:52 AM

Theres two types of routers, wired and wireless.. Both are the same except one has wireless and it has antennas sticking out of the back of it. They have 5 ports on the back, 1 for uplink from the modem and 4 for other devices.

If you get a wireless router, if you dont use wireless u can disable it in its settings.

Bottom line a wireless routers not much more expensive than a wired router, and its future proofing as well.

And blackstang, i told him hed have to get a wireless adaptor for his xbox if they werent in the same room and far away. read my posts better.

Lazerred6 02-26-2010 09:58 AM

So I went out a bought a router which I now have to go and return because I just figured out it's not xbox-live compatible

I also bought MW2 but I haven't gotten a chance to play yet :(

BLazE 02-26-2010 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 450265)
So I went out a bought a router which I now have to go and return because I just figured out it's not xbox-live compatible

I also bought MW2 but I haven't gotten a chance to play yet :(

How is it not Xbox Live compatable? I router's a router, it should work no matter what...

Dave04Mustang 02-26-2010 11:49 AM

I've had this for years: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Linksys+...365&st=Linksys

Xbox live, ps3 multiple computers connected to it.. everything works great and is always reliable. Best of all simple to setup

Lazerred6 02-26-2010 11:56 AM

Alright this is the one that I bought


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26...specifications

The first review says that it's not xbox live compatible but i read a few more it they say that it is. So I might not have to return it

Anyway I had it at home and was trying to get the network set up but I have have no idea what kind of IP address I have and I have to enter all of that information to get it set up

Lazerred6 02-26-2010 11:59 AM

For the wireless one you posted dave does an ethernet cable go to it from the modem or do you need a wireless modem

00blkstanggt 02-26-2010 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by krenogin (Post 450052)
Well. Your modem is assigned one ip address. And no two same devices can share that IP address on the network or they will have problems, and wont work.

What you need to do is buy a wired or wireless router whichever you would like best. BUT seeings how everything is close together, you could get a wired router and satisfy your needs.

It only comes with one cat5e cable, so you can get someone to make on or just get however long of one you need at walmart/bestbuy whichever place u get your router from.

After you install and set up the router you can connect both devices through the router. And the router will create a Virtual Private Network or VPN for short. What it will do is take your IP address thats assigned by your internet service provider, and use it as its connection. Then it will start IP's at 192.168.1.1 which will be its address, and its DHCP client will assign from 192.168.1.100 up to devices connected to it so they dont have the same IP.

The USB port on your modem is not to be used for internet connectivity. It's simply a port thats used to upload and update its instructions, IE to configure IP, subnet mask, PPPOE settings and all that.. Don't ever go into there or you will screw your internet up until they send someone out to reconfigure its settings.

Bottom line buy a router. I recommend Linksys, Belkin, and Netgear. They all come with CD's now so they can be set up by anybody just follow all instructions.

If you take the wireless route, the XBOX has to have a 100 dollar wireless card, and its too much money, and wired connections are much faster and have almost 0ms latency lagg.

Also note when you have your XBOX and PC connected to your router, you will experience "LAGG" on your live games if someones using the internet while you play. You may not notice it, but i'm a hardcore PC gamer and Latency means the difference between playability and not.

Hope this helps!

I don't see any mention of you telling him if his xbox was somewhere else that he'd have to get a wireless adapter. Maybe you should read your posts more carefully.

If you have a good connection, you won't really experience any lag. I've been downloading a movie while playing on xbox live before and have had no problems.


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