jjtgiants

I would like to smack Rosie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsS8n...%2F%3Fp%3D1281

v6'stang

i've got dialup so the vids are useless to me, lol, but that fat, lezbo, dyked out bitch should shut the f up. we should give her a M-16 and send her over there! see how she likes it!

Jack The Ripper

i hate that fat piece of shit. somone oughtta drop her off in somolia.

StreetRacer

i see where her heads at...i'm pretty sure to the average iraqi we ARE terrorists...matter of fact...dont they scream that all day everyday...?

zigzaggthefag321

If you are siding with that fat piece of shit lezbo then you need to GTFO of here.

r3dn3ck

I guess that would depend on whether or not the particular group screaming it wants to kill us or hide behind us that day. the extremist terrorists are the enemy... rosie is just too stupid to keep her mouth shut. 600k+ civilians... I don't think so. they include terrorists in the numbers of civilians because they don't claim no crew.

jjtgiants

I don't know cause I don't know any Iraqi's, and no doubt innocent people die during wars, but I don't see our troops strapping bombs to their hummers and driving into a market or something like that. Yes, there are probably lots of Iraqi's that hate the soldiers and wish we would leave, but our soldiers aren't terrorists and their to kill innocent people on purpose.

By the way, we shouldn't even be there.....but that's for another discussion.

StreetRacer

uh huh...riiiight...anyway...i'm a big boy now so i understand what she said cause i actually bothered to listen to her...i do that ya know...i actually listen and watch the whole statement before i jump in....so what she said was:

TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE WE ARE THE TERRORISTS

what part of that is false? they burn our flag everyday everywhere...oh...damn...you thought they loved us???? lmfao

StreetRacer

bingo...no..we arent terrorists...well except for the animals that raped and murdered that 16 year old girl...but you hit the nail on the head...we shouldnt be there...most iraqis feel that way too...so when a foreign power invades your country and 655000 of your citizens die thereafter....yeah...TO THAT COUNTRY WE ARE THE TERRORISTS...thats all she said...

3V2000GT

no actually from what ive heard from actual soldiers many people there love us there, we liberated them. Of course there are going to be people against us being there but im almost willing to bet those are people that supported saddam.

Does anyone remember when we invaded iraq to get saddam all the people in the middle of the street celebrating and destroying the HUGE statue of saddam??

rosie is a dumb bitch, of course shes going to be agsainst the gov. she is a lesbian, im sure if we had a president that supported abortion and gay marriage then she would not be saying a word about this.

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zigzaggthefag321

Do not assume that I didnt listen to her fat ass mouth spew senseless shit out all over the place.

did I say I thought they loved us? NO

so you think that Iraqi's think we are terrorists? hopefully not cause Rosie O fat fvck said so. IF you think that, you are not thinking at 100%.

Rosie needs

bossnutt

OMFG can I throw something at the computer screen now. That woman has to be on crack or something.

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Jack The Ripper

some of them love us, some of them hate us.

the entire country is made of psycho religious zealots, the only reason that country was even remotely stable is because Saddam was about one of the most ruthless bastards out there.

Think about this.

Iraq used to be what, 3 different tribes that were constantly at war as long as history can remember? Europe marches thier ass in there and draws some lines on a map and tells these 3 tribes "Hey, you are all a part of a country now, all called Iraq, learn to get along"

It takes about the meanest SOB in the planet to rule such a nation because the only way to get the 3 fighting tribes to top thier fighting is to give them something so ****ing scary that they dont dare lift a finger against eachother because they were terrified of the possible ramifications..

that is what saddam did. He was a presence of pute hatred and evil, somebody so intensely terrifying that the 3 tribes shit thier pants and were too scare to fight eachother.

he was an evil bastard and the world is a better place without him, but he was probably the only person capable of taming such a country.

Amercia blasted that sick shit into the stoneage, however, we play by rules, and we are not ruthless. The different tribes do NOT fear the US the way they feared Saddam.

Democracy has no chance in that area....


So, they might think we are terrorists, i dont give a shit. AMERICA runs by rules. we do NOT go around killing women, children, or unarmed citizens. Collateral damage is an unfortunate reality of war, it can not be avoided, but collateral damage in this war is far far less than any other war in history

While our government might not think before it acts, and while it may do things i dont believe in sometimes, in NO WAY can america be considered terrorists.

We seek political answers first and foremost. We use other countrys, we use people as puppets, a harsh reality of being #1.

What america does NOT do is Bomb schools, public busses, coffee shops, etc. We do everything in our power to minimise collateral damage

terrorists do everything in thier power to maximize collateral damage

zigzaggthefag321

well said as usual./\

Jack The Ripper

the problem with rosie is she is normally surrounded by "YES MAAM" people. She is way too hard headed and doesent bother to look at the facts, rather she simply finds the most shocking stance she can find and claims it is the truth because it gets her the most publicity. She is no better than howard sten or any other shock jock.

im sure she believes we were never on the moon either

and 911 was directly caused by the government

and that the jersey devil was to blame on the Seward Murders in the pine barrens.

For a woman with so many resources she is suprisingly niave, and for a woman who has gotten so far in life she is suprisingly unintelligent.



Ill defend to the death that saddam should be killed. I fully believe his death was warranted and the world is a better place.

I will also say that i doubt anybody will ever tame iraq. If anything the country borders will be disolved, things will be divided...

Saddam was the only thing holding that country together, without his ruthless tyrany, it will dissolve.

That is the only reason i think we should not have invaded. I dont think anybody was really expecting Iraq to explode the way it did, at least, not for the reasons it is exploding.

However, with saddam gone, all those crazy ****ers are too busy killing eachother to create WMD's. Which is a GREAT THING. (and yes i believe they had them and either sold or hid them when things got too hot)

The focus of that country is gone. The only harm they pose is to the people living there, rather than the whole world.

i say we just pull out. Up and leave. Let them kill themselves off, that is what they want. once it boils down to 2 major factions we pick the one who best suits our needs and help them blow the other side into smithereens.

i dont see any other way personally.

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StreetRacer

yeah well... the way i heard her... she said the iraqi people think of us as terrorist....you dont agree with her...i do...its a matter of perspective...these people behead us..they attempt to kill us everyday in the name of their god...IN THEIR perspective...we are the bad guys...we are evil...we are terrorists...IN THEIR perspective...doesnt mean i think we are terrorist...i dont even think it means rosie thinks we are terrorist...she said TO THE IRAQI people...we are terrorist...to them to them to them...thats what rosie said...stop with the flag waving and chest thumpin...i've served my country probably a bit longer than a few of you and i see what shes sayin...nobody can question my patriotism...i'm just not gonna jump on the hate rosie bandwagon when its clear to me that she was taken outta context...no worries...its funny though how some chest thumpers immediately start throwin insults when a different opinion comes along...but i appreciate the intelligent guys who just gave an opinion

heres a story and video demonstrating the feeling of love some people want you to believe the iraqis have for us
http://cbs11tv.com/religion/local_story_100092844.html

zigzaggthefag321

Rosie O has said and done some stupid ass stuff...in fact its the norm for her to be flat wrong and annoying.

I really do not believe the majority of Iraqi people think that WE are terrorists.

Some do think this way...the real terrorists.

Fat Lard

Uppidy Bo-Dyke = Rosie = Piece of Shit.

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PColav6

You have to understand that just because you see on CNN about how bad the situation is in Iraq, how we are losing 15 of our dedicated troops a week because of IEDs,they aren't telling you the good that is happening here, yes, there is GOOD happening there.

There are many iraqis that appreciate us being there, of course - there are some major civil struggles going on over there, but the whole country isn't against us.

Quite a few of the insurgents that are fighting against us are infact not Iraqis, insurgents are coming into Iraq from it's border countries.

The Insurgents are as much against the majority of their own people as they are the US and coalition forces, 50 civilians, these include women and children, mind you, were killed today by a truck bomb, Over 100 were killed a few weeks ago in a similar incident. We built Iraq a military, we've trained thousands upon thousands of Iraqi soldiers, they have purchased from the US vast amounts of Humvees, and some new armored Cougars, and have now contracted a plan with the US to purchase M16A2 service rifles, we have trained an Iraqi SF group which constantly goes into the fight to put down the insurgents, our soldier and Marines are everyday fighting and dying alongside Iraqi men in uniform together to wipe out the insurgency and protect Iraqi civilians. Civilian contractors, both from the US and Iraq alike have constructed schools, police departments, fire departments, and hospitals to benefit the Iraqis, the insurgents try to blow these up, not because they see americans as terrorists, but because they are animals and just want to take peoples' lives and make others suffer.
Sure, there are many people that think we shouldn't be there, soldiers and civilians alike, as there is in any military conflict, including World War II which you may think crazy, but it happened. I can assure you that as long as our soldiers and marines see the overwhelming amount of gratefulness in the iraqi kids' eyes when they do something as simple as walk away from the protection of their Stryker or Humvee to give the child a smile, wave, or candy bar, that almost all of our soldiers are willing to fight and die for those kids, Iraqis are people too, they do not deserve the hardships they go through everyday, they deserve a chance to go through life without having to worry about a bomb exploding at every public gathering, and at their schools, and that is something, in my opinion, worth fighting for. You can bet your life that if I could, I would instantly go to the recruiter's office and sign up for a combat MOS and go over to Iraq to make an effort for someone else's well-being, and if I died I would know that atleast I was trying to help these people out. Isolationism is not going to work, some people think that the US should not get involved with affairs that don't directly concern it, what we are doing right now has to be one of the biggest examples of selflessness of our country we've shown. Almost 3,500 of our men and women in uniform have lost their lives in this country, over 20,000 wounded, for what? To make an effort for men, women and children to be able to live a life that doesn't involve a high risk of death everyday by just walking out in the open? We are not there alone, we have gotten some much appreciated help by the Canadian Forces, British, German, and many other countries to dig Iraq out of it's hole. Something has to be done about that country, and someone has to do it, it can't be done overnight, and it won't happen on it's own. We are trying, that is all that matters. It may take 20 years of this constant fighting and rebuilding, but once it's done wouldn't it have been worth it? If we do nothing we will just have to deal with it later, and if we did that it would probably have been worse.

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Jack The Ripper

that is media.

media says it one way, or another.

talk to some people that came back from iraq. Trust me, there are PLENTY out there now. ive talked to plenty of them at my local bar. some of the iraqis hate is, but there are pleny who are genuinly happy we are there. As far as im concerned getting the word from the mouth of a marine trumps any media out there. after all, media is all propaganda. im not saying it aint true, but it is not usually all of the truth and is usually tilted to what the creater of the media wants to believe, but they always are somewhat biased in one direction than another.

also i spent 4 years in the military... not wartime either, was never in iraq. not thumping my chest, but a decent amount of us on here are veterans..

Terrorist is a word that defines people that use terror for a weapon. America doesent. Sure, the stuff america does to a country we dont like is probably scary, but attributing the word terrorist even as thier point of view?

a lot of the world views us as the bad guys. .. as evil... as immoral... but Terrorist is a very specific term that is applied to the use of small tactical guerrilla warfare which does not adhere to the geneva convention. Terrorits bring the warefare to the civilians inentionally. They see us as the bad guys. Plain and simple. But we are not terrorists...

in fact... can anybody here even tell me if terrorist is even a word used in iraq? or if there is a direct iraqi translation? I'd bet dollars to doughnuts they call us evil, and enemys, but terrorist?... naa... terrorist is a specific thing.

Think about this. Did hitler think he was evil? Did Stalin think he was bad? Did Napoleon think he was doing evil?

There is always the attempt to label "Good vs Evil" on any conflict because it gives us a cozy feeling. It gives us the sence we are doing something right. We are making the world a better place.
Both sides of any conflict take the same stance.

The christian crusaders who mudered thousands of people thought they were doing gods work
Hitler thought the ethnic clensing of the Jews was the good thing to do.

The entire middle east knows damn good and well what a terrorist act is. Blowing yourself up in a public building, etc. They also understand there is a difference between us going in and killing thier leaders, and the terrorists who go in and kill thier civilians.

so no, i dont agree that iraqis think we are terrorists. No i dont think they all love us, Yes i know there are a good amount of iraquis that really appreciate that saddam is gone, yes i understand confict vs perspective, yes i think iraquis are intelligent enough to recognize the difference between "Kill leaders and military" vs "wear bomb and blow up hospital"

I have a lot of issues with the government, i dont like the current administration, and yes i think they really blew it.


the fact is there is no right, there is no wrong, there is no good, there is no evil, there is only perspective.

and rosie o'donnel is just an uneducated idiot.



and she is fat too

PColav6

BTW:

I have not looked at FOX or CNN at all since 2003 to get news about what is going on in Iraq, I go straight to the source that matters, I look at what the soldiers have to say about it. No, not the DoD, not the officers, the enlisted men. When I read about what they go through everyday over there, and how it gives them a great sense of pride and accomplishment when they do something as small as repave a road that was damaged when an IED blew up, how they talk about their relations with the locals, and the kids, and the Iraqi troops they are working with, it makes me so grateful that they are so selfless as to do what they do everyday. These guys believe in what they are doing, our soldiers are not killers, they are over there policing, reconstructing, and conversing directly with the iraqi people. They are doing their best to help these people, they are ready to die for them, and so many of them feel absolutely abandoned by their own people back in the safety of the US because all they do is argue about the politics of the war, they use a story of a soldier who was killed by an IED, and I bet you that they will use the story of the 3 soldiers who were captured, 1 confirmed killed, as ammo for the anti-war protest to take our soldiers and Marines out. That is not helping our guys, they want to do their job, let them. Their friends have died, and none of the guys there want to let their buddies have died for nothing. Few people realize that it is absolutely tearing our soldiers apart because ALL WE DO IS ARGUE, people say they support our troops, and then protest to have them withdrawn. That is telling me that for those soldiers, it's like saying "I believe in you, but I do not believe in what you are doing," and the people doing this probably have never been in the military, and probably never will be. How are they to know what they are really doing, and what it is actually like to experience the daily routine in Iraq? I can not tell you how many times I have seen a soldier say or write "If you are going too support us, support us all the way," Saying you support the troops but not their efforts must really get them down, Imagine a soldier emailing his buddy back home saying about how he helped treat an injured iraqi kid today and later helped repair a man's fence, and then his buddy back in the states sending him an email saying "Good job, I'm trying hard to get you to come back home and out of that shit hole," that soldier is going to be thinking "What the hell man, do you even care about what I'm doing here? I'm here trying to help these people and all you're trying to do is get us get out and go back home." they need us to believe in what they are doing, and to give them some morale support for their efforts, THEY NEED US TO CARE, From what I've seen, people look at the death toll and the economic statistics, they don't really care about what is happening, and to be honest that makes me ****ing sick, and ashamed of people that dare to call themselves patriots.

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now see...i appreciate you guys explaining it like ya did...i learned somethin...thats worth a lot more than just yellin