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rebelyell 04-26-2007 11:01 PM

WTF is wrong with this country..
 
I got a BIG ole rant for anyone in this country legal or illegal.. I don't want to criticize any one group about this so bear with me please.

My 15 year old son told me tonight he doesn't have school on Friday. I look at the calender, school is in session as usual. I said BS you got school. Nope he told me. Why I asked? Because some nut has threatened to shoot up the school on Friday.. I know we all have been thru the old bomb threats that used to be popular with certain ner do wells and such but, Gadam you can't be sure if some misguided student is really gonna do it.. Well my wife is letting him stay home. I can't say I don't disagree with it..

We got an official call from the principle of his HS that said they have investigated it and they have done all they can to insure their safety.. Please come to school.

Well I can't guarantee my son will be safe so he stays home.. No doubt it's a copycat thing but my son and everyone else his age all over America are gonna suffer cause of this. Of course it's not gonna happen, BUT it might..

WTF is gonna take to rid us from the senseless assualts on our childrens education.. They are the next generation of our country's leaders..

God help our kids when they grow up without a basic HS education..

We need a RANT section on these forums too. (while I'm Ranting) DAMMIT..

:godamnit:

SmokeScreen 04-26-2007 11:04 PM

Kids are ****ed up...

People should receive heavy jail time for this shit... its not funny...

But I'm sure yer kid is happy :P

rebelyell 04-26-2007 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by SmokeScreen (Post 259005)
Kids are ****ed up...

People should receive heavy jail time for this shit... its not funny...

But I'm sure yer kid is happy :P

Yep. he's happy cause gets a 3 day weekend. And even laughed cause of the situation. Kinda added to my rantingness.. I told him there aren't very many people who get paid to play X-box 360.. :shakeno:

SmokeScreen 04-26-2007 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by rebelyell (Post 259006)
Yep. he's happy cause gets a 3 day weekend. And even laughed cause of the situation. Kinda added to my rantingness.. I told him there aren't very many people who get paid to play X-box 360.. :shakeno:

eh... what are ya gonna do?

Nothing you can do, just hope that kids like that grow up...

Like Jon... ha ha... When will he grow up?

wade95 04-27-2007 07:12 AM

When parents became to scared to physically punish their children is when this all started. I grew up getting cracked w/whatever my mom could get her hands on and that's the way Wade Jr. is gonna get it as well.

Violent games on xbox, rap music, vilent movies,,etc,,,,is part the blame for societies ill's. Parents: "spare the rod, spoil the child." This is part of the problem,

00blkstanggt 04-27-2007 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by wade95 (Post 259055)
When parents became to scared to physically punish their children is when this all started. I grew up getting cracked w/whatever my mom could get her hands on and that's the way Wade Jr. is gonna get it as well.

Violent games on xbox, rap music, vilent movies,,etc,,,,is part the blame for societies ill's. Parents: "spare the rod, spoil the child." This is part of the problem,

I would agree that violent movies, game, etc. in the hands of a messed up kid can contribute to the problem, but they dont mess up a good kid. I've been playing video games, watching R movies for as long as I could remember. It's all about how you were raised and the enviroment you grew up in. I'm 25 getting married next year and I still play games where I'm chainsawing someone in half. I'm perfectly happy and normal. Then again, I was raised in a good home, was taught respect, and if I misbehaved, then I got spanked by my mom and learned my lesson.

04DarkShadowGT 04-27-2007 09:15 AM

Shootings like these are not a new phenomenon. They have been happening for decades. Its not just todays kids that are screwed up.

I was looking up on Wikipedia and they have school shootings listed from the following years -

* Enoch Brown school massacre - Franklin County, Pennsylvania, United States; July 26, 1764
* Poe Elementary School Attack - Houston, Texas, United States; September 15, 1959
* University of Texas at Austin massacre - Austin, Texas, United States; August 1, 1966
* Kent State shootings - Kent, Ohio, United States; May 4, 1970
* Avivim school bus massacre - Avivim, Israel; May 8, 1970
* Jackson State killings - Jackson, Mississippi, United States; May 14-15, 1970
* Ma'alot massacre - Ma'alot, Israel; May 15, 1974
* California State University, Fullerton Library Massacre - Fullerton, California, United States; July 12, 1976
* Brenda Ann Spencer, Cleveland Elementary School - January 29, 1979
* Parkway South Junior High School shooting - Saint Louis, Missouri, United States; January 20, 1983
* Laurie Dann - Hubbards Woods Elementary School; Winnetka, Illinois, United States; May 20, 1988
* Stockton massacre - Stockton, California, United States; January 17, 1989
* École Polytechnique Massacre - Montreal, Quebec, Canada; December 6, 1989
* University of Iowa shooting - Iowa City, Iowa, United States; November 1, 1991
* Concordia University massacre -Montreal, Quebec, Canada; August 24, 1992
* Simon's Rock College of Bard shooting - Great Barrington, Massachusetts, United States; December 14, 1992
* Richland High School shooting - Lynnville, Tennessee, United States; November 15, 1995.
* Frontier Junior High shooting - Moses Lake, Washington, United States; February 2, 1996
* Dunblane massacre - Dunblane, Scotland, United Kingdom; March 13, 1996
* Sanaa massacre - Sanaa, Yemen; March 30, 1997
* Pearl High School shooting, Pearl, Mississippi, United States; October 1, 1997
* Heath High School shooting, West Paducah, Kentucky, United States; December 1, 1997
* Jonesboro massacre - Jonesboro, Arkansas, United States; March 24, 1998
* Thurston High School shooting - Springfield, Oregon, United States; May 21, 1998
* Columbine High School massacre - Littleton, Colorado, United States; April 20, 1999
* W. R. Myers High School shooting - Taber, Alberta, Canada; April 28, 1999
* Heritage High School shooting - Conyers, Georgia, United States; May 20, 1999
* Santana High School - Santee, California, United States; March 5, 2001
* Appalachian School of Law shooting - Grundy, Virginia, United States; January 16, 2002
* Erfurt massacre - Erfurt, Germany; April 26, 2002
* Monash University shooting - Melbourne, Australia; October 21, 2002
* Rocori High School shootings - Cold Spring, Minnesota, United States; September 24, 2003
* Southwood Middle School tragedy, Miami, Florida; February 3, 2004
* Red Lake High School massacre - Red Lake, Minnesota, United States; March 21, 2005
* Campbell County High School - Jacksboro, Tennessee: November 8, 2005
* Dawson College shooting - Montreal, Quebec, Canada; September 13, 2006
* Platte Canyon High School shooting - Bailey, Colorado, United States; September 27, 2006
* Amish school shooting - Nickel Mines, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, United States; October 2, 2006
* Weston High School shooting, Cazenovia, Wisconsin September 29, 2006
* Henry Foss High School - Tacoma, Washington, United States January 3, 2007
* Beirut Arab University shooting - Beirut, Lebanon; January 25, 2007
* Virginia Tech massacre - Blacksburg, Virginia, United States; April 16, 2007

00blkstanggt 04-27-2007 09:17 AM

Damn my college is on that list and I never knew anything about that. California State University of Fullerton. Massacre in the library.

04DarkShadowGT 04-27-2007 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by 00blkstanggt (Post 259074)
Damn my college is on that list and I never knew anything about that. California State University of Fullerton. Massacre in the library.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Califor...brary_Massacre

00blkstanggt 04-27-2007 09:27 AM

^ thanks for the link man.

jjtgiants 04-27-2007 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by 00blkstanggt (Post 259072)
I would agree that violent movies, game, etc. in the hands of a messed up kid can contribute to the problem, but they dont mess up a good kid. I've been playing video games, watching R movies for as long as I could remember. It's all about how you were raised and the enviroment you grew up in. I'm 25 getting married next year and I still play games where I'm chainsawing someone in half. I'm perfectly happy and normal. Then again, I was raised in a good home, was taught respect, and if I misbehaved, then I got spanked by my mom and learned my lesson.

exactly!

Stockton is the first one on that list and just last night on the news the cops stopped two kids with guns before they got on campus. The cops stopped them because they were supposed to be in school, not outside of campus....anyway, they had guns and pictures of two kids they were going to kill in class. I think this was gang related though. crazy stuff

liv4him 04-27-2007 11:21 AM

Take God out of school this is what you get!

00blkstanggt 04-27-2007 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by liv4him (Post 259102)
Take God out of school this is what you get!

Are you serious?

Jack The Ripper 04-27-2007 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by liv4him (Post 259102)
Take God out of school this is what you get!

:offtopic:

liv4him 04-27-2007 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper (Post 259121)
:offtopic:

Wrong its right on the topic!

PColav6 04-27-2007 01:53 PM

God has nothing to do with it, it's just a discipline thing really.....

00blkstanggt 04-27-2007 02:13 PM

Because God solves all of our problems.:kekekegay: Like I said above, I play violent games, watch all types of movies, etc etc. and I turned out fine without God in my life. I have been to church once and that was only because I had to. Easter Mass in a Catholic church sucks by the way. Anyways, I'm not bashing religion or God or anything like that, but come on dude, to say someone is messed up because God isn't in their life is just way off course.

r3dn3ck 04-27-2007 02:32 PM

God was never in school. Kids being forced to be quiet for 20 seconds every morning is not God in the classroom. It's 20 seconds of quiet which I suppose keeps the teachers from busting o-rings but does little to glorify conversion disorder... er I mean god.

God has exactly two things to do with school shootings: jack and shiit. Jack left.

EDIT: For those self important zealots out there, think of the massive blood-letting that would follow formal adoption of any religion in school or government. We're fighting theocracies all over the globe cuz they tend to be the uber nutcase bible thumper types that think their way to pray is the "right" way and your way is bad for society, so they'll go ahead and tell you and your kids when and where and how to pray and to whom. Those same nut jobs are the ones with all the political power and money (they steal from god-fearin' folks in one way or another). All religion has ever gotten us is war, disease, corruption, war, war, war, war, war, corruption, war, and war. Kill God and save mankind.

Jack The Ripper 04-27-2007 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 259136)
God has exactly two things to do with school shootings: jack and shiit. Jack left..

actually no im still here
:kekekegay:

Badfish 04-27-2007 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by liv4him (Post 259102)
Take God out of school this is what you get!

L...O...L.....

Jack The Ripper 04-27-2007 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 259136)
EDIT: For those self important zealots out there, think of the massive blood-letting that would follow formal adoption of any religion in school or government. We're fighting theocracies all over the globe cuz they tend to be the uber nutcase bible thumper types that think their way to pray is the "right" way and your way is bad for society, so they'll go ahead and tell you and your kids when and where and how to pray and to whom. Those same nut jobs are the ones with all the political power and money (they steal from god-fearin' folks in one way or another). All religion has ever gotten us is war, disease, corruption, war, war, war, war, war, corruption, war, and war. Kill God and save mankind.

hell yeah dude. Smacked the nail on the head right there. too bad the zealots are too blinded to realize it.

'02SilverBullet 04-27-2007 04:18 PM

I must agree with Wade. Too many parents are scared to ummm "spank" their children anymore. They say "its not right to dicipline children that way" but then they wonder what the hell is wrong with so many kids getting in trouble in school with guns, gangs and drugs these days. Not only my MOM whipped the hell out of me, aunts, uncles, damn near any "grown up" that caught me F-ing up tore into my ass LOL...... And after ALL those whippings I received, I say I am a better man because of em!

Jack The Ripper 04-27-2007 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by '02SilverBullet (Post 259163)
I must agree with Wade. Too many parents are scared to ummm "spank" their children anymore. They say "its not right to dicipline children that way" but then they wonder what the hell is wrong with so many kids getting in trouble in school with guns, gangs and drugs these days. Not only my MOM whipped the hell out of me, aunts, uncles, damn near any "grown up" that caught me F-ing up tore into my ass LOL...... And after ALL those whippings I received, I say I am a better man because of em!

True. there was a lot less of this crap when kids not only loved thier parents and respected them, but also FEARED them.

r3dn3ck 04-27-2007 04:29 PM

mega dittos. My mom beat me like it was on sale and I deserved it most of the time. I'm a decent guy now and the whippins had to have helped cuz I was a BAD kid.

My kids get spanked when they need one and people always tell me how wonderful my kids are. They're even good when nobody is looking. Amazing how far a little pain association can go.

Badfish 04-27-2007 04:59 PM

i was spanked and look how i came out..

wnracing 04-27-2007 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Badfish (Post 259172)
i was spanked and look how i came out..

Spanked with what? A silver spoon.. :kekekegay:

Jack The Ripper 04-27-2007 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 259169)
mega dittos. My mom beat me like it was on sale and I deserved it most of the time. I'm a decent guy now and the whippins had to have helped cuz I was a BAD kid.

My kids get spanked when they need one and people always tell me how wonderful my kids are. They're even good when nobody is looking. Amazing how far a little pain association can go.

TRUE TRUE.

pain is a great learning mechanism, just gotta make sure you dont go from "education" to "abuse". i think most parents out there are quite capable of making that disctinction without social services taking thier kids away.
as for the ones who cant figure out where to draw the line, even if they never hit thier kids they would still be bad parents. lol

I could explain that it is bad to touch a hot stove for 10 hours to a kid. However, that 10 hours of explaining wont amount to shit compared to a half a second after they put thier hand on the stove.

lol.

jjtgiants 04-27-2007 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 259136)
EDIT: For those self important zealots out there, think of the massive blood-letting that would follow formal adoption of any religion in school or government. We're fighting theocracies all over the globe cuz they tend to be the uber nutcase bible thumper types that think their way to pray is the "right" way and your way is bad for society, so they'll go ahead and tell you and your kids when and where and how to pray and to whom. Those same nut jobs are the ones with all the political power and money (they steal from god-fearin' folks in one way or another). All religion has ever gotten us is war, disease, corruption, war, war, war, war, war, corruption, war, and war. Kill God and save mankind.

Right on man! A lot of people through history have died over god.... You don't NEED god in your life to be a good person, have good values or raise your kids the right way. I'm convinced that religion is there so people can feel like they are going somewhere after they die..... For some it's a scary thought just thinking when you die you just take a dirt nap and that's it.

Jack The Ripper 04-27-2007 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Badfish (Post 259172)
i was spanked and look how i came out..

yer still coming out jon, cant tell how you ended out untill yer 30's or so.

lol....

at this point, you could end up career criminal, or a senator.... but i repeat myself.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PColav6 04-27-2007 05:07 PM

Aside from this whole issue I think younger kids (6-13) need to get the **** off of the cell phones and computers and start doing some outside work and helping out.....I didn't have my own pc till I was I don't know, 12 maybe..but I paid for it, it was a major POS....but now there are 6 year olds on computers playing FPS games like Counter-Strike and THAT is ****ed up, when I was 6 I spent my days outside playing baseball and stuff..and I see these little ****ers in elementary school with cell phones - WHAT THE **** DO YOU NEED A CELL PHONE FOR WHEN YOU'RE 8, WHAT THE ****?

And then there's the whole deal about kids younger than 13 ****ing each other in the school bathrooms..............good ****ing god

And half these little kids are like miniature Michillen Men with all them rolls..rofl

what the hell happened to our society

Jack you BETTER not let you kids turn out like this or I'll steal your 'stang and tell the popo's bout the hookers.


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