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PColav6 08-20-2009 09:11 AM

Worst case scenario - stuck and mangled oil filter.
 
So I'm trying to change my oil before I go to gainesville today, you know, typical 30 minute oil change, no biggie.

Well until I went to get the fucking filter off. It is on so god damn tight that neither of my two filter wrenches could loosen it, and driving a screw driver through it and turning that all but completely destroyed the filter, just shredded it up. Well this happened when I changed the oil on my dad's stang too so I kept hammering the driver in looking for that one spot that wouldn't shred.

No luck, so basically I have the very top of an oil filter where the seal and threads are, stuck. Pretty much the entire filter below that is destroyed, it may as well not even be there.
So how the fuck do I get this thing off when there is absolutely no way to get any leverage or grip on it.....

FML

Lazerred6 08-20-2009 09:24 AM

Dude that really blows I really don't know what you can do other than pb blast the hell out of the thing and try to let that work it's way in and then find a way to get some leverage with a plyers or something

01FR500 08-20-2009 09:57 AM

Ok, you've torn the complete body of the filter off. The part that screws onto the engine block is still there. Only choice is to find some massive ass pliers and get some leverage and turn anything that is left of the filter. Got that sunken stomach feeling yet?

whitestang04 08-20-2009 10:03 AM

This should go without saying but be careful if there is a bunch of sharp edges. The last thing you want is stitches to go with your oil change.

Black Sunshine 08-20-2009 10:17 AM

Maybe wrap what's left of the filter in some kind of a shop rag or rubber. That way you'll actually have something to get a grip on.

Other than that, I have no clue. Good luck, Pee.

PColav6 08-20-2009 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by 01FR500 (Post 424814)
Ok, you've torn the complete body of the filter off. The part that screws onto the engine block is still there. Only choice is to find some massive ass pliers and get some leverage and turn anything that is left of the filter. Got that sunken stomach feeling yet?


I jammed some pliers in the holes that are between the gasket and was able to man handle the fucker off. 3 Hours to change my oil.

Fuck cars. lol

01FR500 08-20-2009 10:30 AM

Crap like that makes you not want to do anything with the car for a month. Good job on getting it off though.

Lazerred6 08-20-2009 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by PColav6 (Post 424825)
I jammed some pliers in the holes that are between the gasket and was able to man handle the fucker off. 3 Hours to change my oil.

Fuck cars. lol


Hey I said to use the pliers first...:(

no props for the commie:confused:

PColav6 08-20-2009 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 424827)
Hey I said to use the pliers first...:(

no props for the commie:confused:

Haha, well I didn't come look at the replies until after I finished, but you had the right idea.

I would have taken pics of the filter but I was in a rush, it was a work of art though. I didn't know they had springs inside of them.

01FR500 08-20-2009 11:16 AM

Yeah they have a relief valve in the filters that open up when oil pressure reaches a certain amount that allows oil to bypass the filter to avoid oil starvation. Dumbass, everyone knows that! lol

WaterDR 08-20-2009 01:12 PM

No you know why I usually pay $15 to $20 for an oil change and I bring my own oil and filter.

gotMACH04 08-20-2009 02:23 PM

filter pliers work great for these times

sand1303 08-20-2009 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by gotMACH04 (Post 424856)
filter pliers work great for these times

I agree, the true pliers not that stupid wraparound circle bullshit. Those pliers they sell for oil filters are a great investment of a few dollars. Hell they would be worth fifty dollars to me if I ever had to buy another set.

Steeda97 08-20-2009 05:10 PM

Out of the 10 or so oil changes i've done on my car I've never had a problem getting the oil filter off. Never even had to use a oil filter wrench. Just dry hands.

PCola FTL.

stanger00 08-20-2009 10:47 PM

rule of thumb and from training once the gasket on the filter touches the housing just turn another 1/4 turn and your done.

audikillsbmw 08-20-2009 11:22 PM

Must have been WAAAAAY overtightened. And I try to avoid using the screwdriver method for that very reason. The only time I've had trouble with a filter was once on my Audi. For some reason it was on there really tight. So I ended up buying a set of three strap wrenches and with one of them on there it loosened up easily.

BikerSk8rKid 08-21-2009 12:37 AM

Do you have to have a oil wrench to take it off and/or put it on?
Do you have to put oil in it before you put it on?

I did a tune up with an oil change in like January and I forogt all about the Oil Filter. LOL

Kyanbi 08-21-2009 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Steeda97 (Post 424880)
PCola FTL.

Hahahaha damn you got me laughing out loud over here. On another note... I'm getting ready to change the oil in my car once it comes back from the bodyshop seeing that it has not been changed since I bought the car two or three months ago, hope all goes well!

pwd72s 08-21-2009 11:45 PM

Everybody here places a film of oil on the gasket of the new filter when changing oil & filter...right???

INtZ 08-22-2009 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 425102)
Everybody here places a film of oil on the gasket of the new filter when changing oil & filter...right???

I do, Just dip my finger in the old oil and rub it on the rubber gasket.

audikillsbmw 08-22-2009 07:44 AM

Yup. I always wet the gasket when I change the filter.

r3dn3ck 08-22-2009 10:17 AM

having changed literally 10's of thousands of car's oil I came up with some tricks to avoid issues like that.

1. tighten the filter just a tit before you spin it off. That breaks the tq seal.
2. Make damned sure you oil the gasket before you spin the new one on or you'll never get it off.
3. drive the screwdriver through and then use it AND a filter wrench or you'll get 2 pieces of filter
4. Pay someone else 20 bucks to do it cuz stupid shit like you had is murphy's way of saying he hates you and gawd isn't your biggest fan either.

pwd72s 08-22-2009 12:24 PM

At least until warranty is past, I'll use #4...if problems arise, I can say: "But I brought it here (dealership) for service."

r3dn3ck 08-24-2009 08:36 AM

w00t... if you're not prepared to handle bad outcomes, have someone who is tackle it. It's just a yuppie-fun-token ($20)

sand1303 08-24-2009 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 425102)
Everybody here places a film of oil on the gasket of the new filter when changing oil & filter...right???

Always, I dip my finger in the drain pan and put some used oil on the gasket and the threading.

Steeda97 08-24-2009 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by sand1303 (Post 425446)
Always, I dip my finger in the drain pan and put some used oil on the gasket and the threading.

use new oil.

using old oil can have dirt or other shit in it that won't allow the gasket to seat fully.

INtZ 08-24-2009 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Steeda97 (Post 425449)
use new oil.

using old oil can have dirt or other shit in it that won't allow the gasket to seat fully.

i was always told specifically to use the old oil, i dont know why, but i always have and haven't ever had a problem :dunno:

Steeda97 08-24-2009 03:38 PM

new oil.

pwd72s 08-29-2009 12:03 AM

Yep, new oil...I mean, why not? You can be sure it's free of impurities, and it isn't like it takes a quart.


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