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Old 08-20-2009, 09:11 AM
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Default Worst case scenario - stuck and mangled oil filter.

So I'm trying to change my oil before I go to gainesville today, you know, typical 30 minute oil change, no biggie.

Well until I went to get the ******* filter off. It is on so god damn tight that neither of my two filter wrenches could loosen it, and driving a screw driver through it and turning that all but completely destroyed the filter, just shredded it up. Well this happened when I changed the oil on my dad's stang too so I kept hammering the driver in looking for that one spot that wouldn't shred.

No luck, so basically I have the very top of an oil filter where the seal and threads are, stuck. Pretty much the entire filter below that is destroyed, it may as well not even be there.
So how the **** do I get this thing off when there is absolutely no way to get any leverage or grip on it.....

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Old 08-20-2009, 09:24 AM
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Dude that really blows I really don't know what you can do other than pb blast the hell out of the thing and try to let that work it's way in and then find a way to get some leverage with a plyers or something
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:57 AM
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Ok, you've torn the complete body of the filter off. The part that screws onto the engine block is still there. Only choice is to find some massive *** pliers and get some leverage and turn anything that is left of the filter. Got that sunken stomach feeling yet?
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:03 AM
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This should go without saying but be careful if there is a bunch of sharp edges. The last thing you want is stitches to go with your oil change.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:17 AM
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Maybe wrap what's left of the filter in some kind of a shop rag or rubber. That way you'll actually have something to get a grip on.

Other than that, I have no clue. Good luck, Pee.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 01FR500
Ok, you've torn the complete body of the filter off. The part that screws onto the engine block is still there. Only choice is to find some massive *** pliers and get some leverage and turn anything that is left of the filter. Got that sunken stomach feeling yet?

I jammed some pliers in the holes that are between the gasket and was able to man handle the ****** off. 3 Hours to change my oil.

**** cars. lol
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:30 AM
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Crap like that makes you not want to do anything with the car for a month. Good job on getting it off though.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PColav6
I jammed some pliers in the holes that are between the gasket and was able to man handle the ****** off. 3 Hours to change my oil.

**** cars. lol

Hey I said to use the pliers first...

no props for the commie
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazerred6
Hey I said to use the pliers first...

no props for the commie
Haha, well I didn't come look at the replies until after I finished, but you had the right idea.

I would have taken pics of the filter but I was in a rush, it was a work of art though. I didn't know they had springs inside of them.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:16 AM
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Yeah they have a relief valve in the filters that open up when oil pressure reaches a certain amount that allows oil to bypass the filter to avoid oil starvation. Dumbass, everyone knows that! lol
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:12 PM
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No you know why I usually pay $15 to $20 for an oil change and I bring my own oil and filter.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 02:23 PM
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filter pliers work great for these times
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gotMACH04
filter pliers work great for these times
I agree, the true pliers not that stupid wraparound circle bullshit. Those pliers they sell for oil filters are a great investment of a few dollars. Hell they would be worth fifty dollars to me if I ever had to buy another set.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 05:10 PM
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Out of the 10 or so oil changes i've done on my car I've never had a problem getting the oil filter off. Never even had to use a oil filter wrench. Just dry hands.

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Old 08-20-2009, 10:47 PM
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rule of thumb and from training once the gasket on the filter touches the housing just turn another 1/4 turn and your done.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:22 PM
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Must have been WAAAAAY overtightened. And I try to avoid using the screwdriver method for that very reason. The only time I've had trouble with a filter was once on my Audi. For some reason it was on there really tight. So I ended up buying a set of three strap wrenches and with one of them on there it loosened up easily.
 
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:37 AM
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Do you have to have a oil wrench to take it off and/or put it on?
Do you have to put oil in it before you put it on?

I did a tune up with an oil change in like January and I forogt all about the Oil Filter. LOL
 
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Steeda97
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Hahahaha damn you got me laughing out loud over here. On another note... I'm getting ready to change the oil in my car once it comes back from the bodyshop seeing that it has not been changed since I bought the car two or three months ago, hope all goes well!
 
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:45 PM
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Everybody here places a film of oil on the gasket of the new filter when changing oil & filter...right???
 
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pwd72s
Everybody here places a film of oil on the gasket of the new filter when changing oil & filter...right???
I do, Just dip my finger in the old oil and rub it on the rubber gasket.
 
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:44 AM
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Yup. I always wet the gasket when I change the filter.
 
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:17 AM
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having changed literally 10's of thousands of car's oil I came up with some tricks to avoid issues like that.

1. tighten the filter just a tit before you spin it off. That breaks the tq seal.
2. Make damned sure you oil the gasket before you spin the new one on or you'll never get it off.
3. drive the screwdriver through and then use it AND a filter wrench or you'll get 2 pieces of filter
4. Pay someone else 20 bucks to do it cuz stupid **** like you had is murphy's way of saying he hates you and gawd isn't your biggest fan either.
 
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:24 PM
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At least until warranty is past, I'll use #4...if problems arise, I can say: "But I brought it here (dealership) for service."
 
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:36 AM
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w00t... if you're not prepared to handle bad outcomes, have someone who is tackle it. It's just a yuppie-fun-token ($20)
 
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Originally Posted by pwd72s
Everybody here places a film of oil on the gasket of the new filter when changing oil & filter...right???
Always, I dip my finger in the drain pan and put some used oil on the gasket and the threading.
 
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Originally Posted by sand1303
Always, I dip my finger in the drain pan and put some used oil on the gasket and the threading.
use new oil.

using old oil can have dirt or other **** in it that won't allow the gasket to seat fully.
 
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Originally Posted by Steeda97
use new oil.

using old oil can have dirt or other **** in it that won't allow the gasket to seat fully.
i was always told specifically to use the old oil, i dont know why, but i always have and haven't ever had a problem
 
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:38 PM
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new oil.
 
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Old 08-29-2009, 12:03 AM
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Yep, new oil...I mean, why not? You can be sure it's free of impurities, and it isn't like it takes a quart.
 
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