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You have to go out of your way to find information like this. New Zealand website Stuff.co.nz is reporting that Ford will be using a 5.0L engine in the 2010 Mustang. The news stems from Ford looking for a more fuel efficient engine for the popular Ford Falcon which currently sports a 5.4L V8. No word yet on what the specs of the new 5.0L engine will be but one can assume the specs will be over shadowed by the fact Mustang owners will once again be able to buy the famed 5.0L Mustang, even if it isn’t the old pushrod engine we have come to love.

2010 is shaping up to be a very important year for the Ford Mustang. With stiff competition from Chevy and Dodge, Ford is feeling the pressure to get it right with the next redesign and the power will be one of the most important parts. We look forward to bringing you more news on this along with more news on the redesign of the exterior and interior of the 2010 Mustang as it comes our way.


looks like the 2010 Mustang is shaping up to be a bad *** mustang. I think i picked out my graduation present ha yeah right..... but i can dream.
 
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Ford Falcon? I guess thats something not sold in the U.S? I'm pretty sure they aren't talking about this.
 

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Ford Falcon? I guess thats something not sold in the U.S? I'm pretty sure they aren't talking about this.
yeah Its an Aussie car....
 

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I'll probably be looking for a new car around then haha. I'll be interested to see the redesign but I'm guessing it won't be a major one
 
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Originally Posted by Steeda97
Ford Falcon? I guess thats something not sold in the U.S? I'm pretty sure they aren't talking about this.
this is the Australian Falcon, which if ford i dont think ford has realized would probably be a monster sales hit in the States

 
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If it's going to have a 5.0, it's probably going to be based on the 5.0 Cammer engine so the standard 4.6 block w/ 3.7" bores. However, it wouldn't surprise me if they throw in the new Boss/Hurricane engines in there since a 5.4 won't compete w/ Hemis and 6.0L+ engines.
 
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If it's going to have a 5.0, it's probably going to be based on the 5.0 Cammer engine so the standard 4.6 block w/ 3.7" bores. However, it wouldn't surprise me if they throw in the new Boss/Hurricane engines in there since a 5.4 won't compete w/ Hemis and 6.0L+ engines.
and here come the 4000lb $40,000 400hp mustangs for 40yr olds.

competing with the Hemi's is ludacris, right now the mustang dominates that area between the 40,000 high horsepower cars and the weak *** imports. Why jump in the overcrowded midlifie crisis ring?

keep it at 325-350hp and keep it affordable.

if they start throwing boss/hurricane engines in them they will be expencive as ****.
 
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With the competition, price will drop down. A 5.7 Hemi is a pretty stout competitor which is going to be in the R/T, the Challenger equivalent to the Mustang's GT and probably will be in the same price range. As for the Camaro, I'm sure GM is going to find a way to make the V6 version the same price as the Mustang GT and thus kill it, again. Either way though, who usually buys Mustang GTs? People in a mid-life crisis (or that's who I usually see driving them) since most teenagers don't buy them anymore (despite the car being made originally for them). Plus, for the average joe, when they see that all the others have big engines and the Mustang is stuck w/ a puny 4.6, well, it's obvious what they want. Actually, GM was in a similar situation back in the 60's since they put a 400ci limit on all engines in intermediate or smaller bodies (except the vette) while Ford had 428s and Chrysler had 440s. There's a reason why GM in 1970 went all out w/ 454s and 455s producing some of the most popular and still rememberable cars today.
 
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Originally Posted by bassman97
With the competition, price will drop down. A 5.7 Hemi is a pretty stout competitor which is going to be in the R/T, the Challenger equivalent to the Mustang's GT and probably will be in the same price range. As for the Camaro, I'm sure GM is going to find a way to make the V6 version the same price as the Mustang GT and thus kill it, again. Either way though, who usually buys Mustang GTs? People in a mid-life crisis (or that's who I usually see driving them) since most teenagers don't buy them anymore (despite the car being made originally for them). Plus, for the average joe, when they see that all the others have big engines and the Mustang is stuck w/ a puny 4.6, well, it's obvious what they want. Actually, GM was in a similar situation back in the 60's since they put a 400ci limit on all engines in intermediate or smaller bodies (except the vette) while Ford had 428s and Chrysler had 440s. There's a reason why GM in 1970 went all out w/ 454s and 455s producing some of the most popular and still rememberable cars today.
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With the competition, price will drop down. A 5.7 Hemi is a pretty stout competitor which is going to be in the R/T, the Challenger equivalent to the Mustang's GT and probably will be in the same price range. As for the Camaro, I'm sure GM is going to find a way to make the V6 version the same price as the Mustang GT and thus kill it, again. Either way though, who usually buys Mustang GTs? People in a mid-life crisis (or that's who I usually see driving them) since most teenagers don't buy them anymore (despite the car being made originally for them). Plus, for the average joe, when they see that all the others have big engines and the Mustang is stuck w/ a puny 4.6, well, it's obvious what they want. Actually, GM was in a similar situation back in the 60's since they put a 400ci limit on all engines in intermediate or smaller bodies (except the vette) while Ford had 428s and Chrysler had 440s. There's a reason why GM in 1970 went all out w/ 454s and 455s producing some of the most popular and still rememberable cars today.
Really?....... funny... most of the people on here are in thier early to mid 20's....


I wouldnt suggest that the mustang is running against the heavy *** hemi's, they are all 4 door sedans that are good for hauling around the family, while also giving some added perfomance to bring back the feeling of independance and freedom and just trying to give a fun alternative to SUV's. In my view they compete with SUVS more than anything else.

The mustang is still a 2 door sports compact with a v8 that makes no sence if you have a family. Hell, just to get logans rear facing child seat in the mustang is no easy task, plus it means that the front seat is so far forward that not even my 5ft 3in wife cant sit in the front seat if logans car seat is in the back. My 6 year old stepson even feels cramped in the back seat and he probably doesent weigh more than 50-60lbs.

The entire design for a mustang vs the hemi/challanger/charger/magnum is different. They are all built around family friendlieness and a big *** engine so it doesent feel so much like a station wagon or family sedan.

The mustang is on the opposite end of the spectrum, it is really just built for 2 people, smaller V8, lightweight and well powered. It is not designed for a family so they can keep weight down, go with a smaller engine, keep up with the Hemi's in performance, and keep the costs down 5-8 grand.

Right now the mustang's direct rivals are all imports. And so far it is doing a damn good job of holding its own against the high performance japanese and german engines.

Im curious to see where the camaro goes, but from how it looks they are gonna have a hell of a time because it will NOT be built as a family car and they are pricing it up there with all the high powered family sedans.

If ford has any brain cells left whatsoever, they would release the Falcon in the US as direct competition with the HEMI's and kep the mustang lighter, cheaper, and still give those other cars a run for thier money
 
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one thing everyone seems to forget

the hemi's all weigh over 4000lbs and run what, 340hp?

they HAVE to have that much power, the mustangs are a lot lighter and running 300hp on that "puny" 4.6 and whip up on the RT's all day long.

Hell, ive beat a charger RT with my 2valve 4.6 and all i have is some intake, exhaust, 4:10 gearing and a tune, and i probably weight 600-700 lbs less.

sure those big 5.7 l hemis are big engine boasting good power, but they weight a ******* ton.

its like giving a fat chick longer legs and running shoes, it dont matter cause she still has to haul that fat ***.
 
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Stupid post eddit isnt working...

anwyays yeah

07 Charger Hemi RT, = 4,300lbs, 340hp = 12.66hp per lb
04 Mustang GT Coupe = 3,300lbs 260hp = 12.69hp per lb.

that mighty 5.7l V8 just aint that damn impressive when you look at it like that is it?


No wonder i beat that fat slow bitch. lol.

i just dont see how anyone can compare the hemi's against stangs, it is like comparing a mustang to an SUV or a truck.
 
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Well, on this site, yes, there are younger people but I'm talking about the vast majority of owners.

Also, I'm talking about the Challenger, not the Charger, which is a smaller 2 door version of the Charger so I don't think it's 4 person friendly either. However, the new SRT8 Challengers are on the heels of the current Mustang GT and thats w/ an auto trans. A manual is all that would be needed to push it past the stang.

Plus, there's nothing wrong w/ a larger engine. Problem is when manufacturers do it as a special edition to jack up the price. Back in the day, there was not much of a price difference between a SS 396 Camaro and Cobra Jet 428 Mustang and both were cheaper than a 440 Charger. I'm sure if Ford offered the larger engines, they would probably have the 5.4 as the top option and the Boss/Hurricane engines to keep the competitors in check so the 5.4 would be the affordable large V8.

Remember, Mustangs are pony cars, a version of the muscle car. That means big engines at low cost so if Ford wants to sell and compete, they will offer the biggest engine at the lowest cost. Or, following their new plan w/ the Ecoboost engines, pump up the power of their smaller engines to get the most out of them (something Ford has NEVER done for their V8s, including the Boss 429).
 
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well....The challanger srt-8 is supposed to have a msrp right around 38,000.

thats a little bit more than the SRT-8 charger whis has a base msrp of around 36,000. So i think it is safe to assume the pricing seen on the current charger models will be pretty close to what we will see with the chargers

It will be interesting to see when they finally get the pricing set for the lower end models, they did shorten the lx frame for the challanger but the curb weight on the RT willl still be 4041lbs.

now, the RT's ARE supposed to crank out 370hp instead of the other hemi's 340hp, im not sure if the other lx platforms will see the same bolster in power.

Here is something ive seen about the SRT-8 Challanger which has 420hp

The performance "targets" were a 0-60 miles per hour time in the low fives, a quarter-mile in less than 14 seconds, at least 0.88 g's on the skidpad and a 60-0 miles per hour stopping time of about 110 feet. However, you — like us — are waiting to see the actual performance numbers to see how close they got to the targets.
http://jalopnik.com/352792/2008-dodg...led-officially

That doesent seem very impressive when considering yer gonna be able to pick up a current Mustang GT for about 10 grand less than the SRT-8 and have pretty much the same overall 1/4 mile performance.

HP and TQ numbers are great, but in the end it boils down to performance per dollar, and ford will already be winning that fight.

Dont get me wrong, i think the new challanger is a sweet ride, and i would totally rock one, but once again there is a 4000lb car, 500lbs heavier than the 08 Mustang GT, and i have a hard time believing yer gonna see any for under 36,000 even after the dealer markup craze has subsided.

Its up to ford as to how the challanger will fair agianst the mustang, If ford keeps its head on, keeps the weight as it is or better yet drops 100lbs and adds a mere extra 25 ponies and keeps the price 5-6k under the challanger, then they will definatly have something that will easily compete against the challanger SRT-8 and be ALOT cheaper.

i just really really really really dont want to see ford turn the Mustang into another 4,000lb car. lol...
 
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Plus, there's nothing wrong w/ a larger engine. Problem is when manufacturers do it as a special edition to jack up the price. .
AMEN to that.

The bullet and shelby GT are PERFECT examples of that.

Why not put in a 4.6l 32v like they did with the mach1's and try to get another 30-40 ponies? That would be worth an extra 4-5 grand.
 
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Or a non-supercharged 5.4. It's something how the Mustang had millions of options and models and now, you have no choices really. For example, in 69, you had the base model that you can get as a coupe or fast back, GT, Boss 302, Boss 429, Mach 1, and Grande. As for engines, you have the 200ci I6, 302, 351, 390, 428, and 429. Now you have the base, GT, and Bullitt, all w/ the same body and only two engines.
 
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well....The challanger srt-8 is supposed to have a msrp right around 38,000.
And then comes the dealer markup..... can anyone say 45 grand?
 
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if you want the complete scoop on the next gen mustang you all need to go to svtperformance.com and search. there is one poster there that has all the inside info and shares it.
 
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