EGR Delete

SxyXc · 01-12-2008, 08:35 AM

OK, so my egr valve has gone bad, and has been bad for a couple weeks, 1 i am tired of the dang CEL light, and 2 i don't want to spend $50 to get a new one... so i was thinking what is all involved in the EGR delete? and would i need a tuner like sct or diablo to get ride of the pesky cel??

p.s. I hate emissions.. they suck

r3dn3ck · 01-12-2008, 09:35 AM

deleting it is fairly easy except for plugging the line from the driver side manifold.

There's 2 vacuum lines that run from the EGR pipe to a sensor on the back of the intake. Once you've deleted the pipe, Connect a spare bit of vacuum line (which you can harvest from the pipe) from one of its 2 inputs to the other. make a block off plate for the egr valve from thin sheet metal and use the EGR valve as a cap for it. Cover the thin piece with a very thin layer of black RTV and install it before it dries between the upper plenum and the egr valve. Connect all the vacuum and electrical connectors as normal. You'll need a tune change too.

It's harder than 50 bucks justifies. Just get the new valve. I'll see if I have one to spare.

bossman302 · 01-12-2008, 09:38 AM

The hardest part is removing the EGR tube from the driver side exhaust manifold. Then remove the EGR from the plenum and plug 1 vacum line. You can get an EGR delete kit from Randy for under $20. I know the sct tuner can turn off the EGR, and I’m sure the diablo can too.

SxyXc · 01-12-2008, 09:55 AM

well the thing is i am thinking about selling this one for a manuel.. and i need to get the egr code gone, but if i takes a tuner. I don't have the money so i will just dish the 50 out reset the computer.

r3dn3ck · 01-12-2008, 09:57 AM

that's the best way... just disable EGR in the tune. Then it doesn't matter if you remove the hardware.

SxyXc · 01-12-2008, 10:04 AM

r3d, will the egr be one of the reasons my mpg has taken a dump lately??
i cleaned my MAf and that helped for the first 100 miles then i pulled the egr code, and mpg dropped some..

i also this tank put some injector cleaner in.. what else can i try to see what i can pull the mpgs up??

Dangan · 01-12-2008, 04:09 PM

So if you disable EGR with say an Xcal you dont have to remove any of the hardware or plug any line or anythign?

GreenOOgt · 01-14-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangan

So if you disable EGR with say an Xcal you dont have to remove any of the hardware or plug any line or anythign?

Nope, Deleting is is most for looks.

r3dn3ck · 01-14-2008, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SxyXc

r3d, will the egr be one of the reasons my mpg has taken a dump lately??
i cleaned my MAf and that helped for the first 100 miles then i pulled the egr code, and mpg dropped some..

i also this tank put some injector cleaner in.. what else can i try to see what i can pull the mpgs up??

I would really have to tear into it and pull plugs and sensors and such to diagnose it well. One thing could easily be the injectors clogged up a bit. Cleaner isn't going to help much. Never does. How many miles on them. Have you got a tune on the car that isn't stock?

One last sensor to check, the IAT sensor. It should be in the intake tube just up from the MAF. See if it's hella dirty.

r3dn3ck · 01-14-2008, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenOOgt

Nope, Deleting is is most for looks.

jep. My EGR stuff is still installed... mostly. The valve and electronics are there. Just no tube.

spike_africa · 01-14-2008, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SxyXc

r3d, will the egr be one of the reasons my mpg has taken a dump lately??
i cleaned my MAf and that helped for the first 100 miles then i pulled the egr code, and mpg dropped some..

i also this tank put some injector cleaner in.. what else can i try to see what i can pull the mpgs up??

It helps with emissions and mileage so when the EGR doenst work it hurts your mileage. Its why i still have a working egr system on my car.

SxyXc · 01-14-2008, 02:48 PM

good news, i found out why my egr was bad, and so was my a/c and heater. (would only blow out of defrost vents) I had a small vacuum leak, you know the lil red air pipes that go from the egr to the plenum, and also to the a/c one of those broke and vacuum leak.. fixed it and now all is good!@!

r3dn3ck · 01-14-2008, 02:52 PM

ROCK *. That's taking your time and looking for the little things. Good work.

SxyXc · 01-14-2008, 09:27 PM

well it was my a/c didn't work, and so i followed all the lines behind the glove box to find where they went, and the only one i couldn't find was the black one.. popped the hood and there it was... the funny thing it.. it was such an obvious break, but on such a small thing it was hard to see unless you were looking for it.. and now i know where that red plug of tubes go!!

01-12-2008, 08:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
SxyXc Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 680	EGR Delete OK, so my egr valve has gone bad, and has been bad for a couple weeks, 1 i am tired of the dang CEL light, and 2 i don't want to spend $50 to get a new one... so i was thinking what is all involved in the EGR delete? and would i need a tuner like sct or diablo to get ride of the pesky cel?? p.s. I hate emissions.. they suck __________________ Racing from a roll is just like masturbating, no matter how good you think you are, it is still not the real thing!

01-12-2008, 09:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,859	deleting it is fairly easy except for plugging the line from the driver side manifold. There's 2 vacuum lines that run from the EGR pipe to a sensor on the back of the intake. Once you've deleted the pipe, Connect a spare bit of vacuum line (which you can harvest from the pipe) from one of its 2 inputs to the other. make a block off plate for the egr valve from thin sheet metal and use the EGR valve as a cap for it. Cover the thin piece with a very thin layer of black RTV and install it before it dries between the upper plenum and the egr valve. Connect all the vacuum and electrical connectors as normal. You'll need a tune change too. It's harder than 50 bucks justifies. Just get the new valve. I'll see if I have one to spare. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com My CarDomain Page

01-12-2008, 09:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
bossman302 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 174	The hardest part is removing the EGR tube from the driver side exhaust manifold. Then remove the EGR from the plenum and plug 1 vacum line. You can get an EGR delete kit from Randy for under $20. I know the sct tuner can turn off the EGR, and I’m sure the diablo can too. __________________ Mineral gray 2002 Mustang GT manual 5 speed. Maximum Motor sport suspension. Forge 4.6 with VT stg 2 cams. BBK 75mm tb and LT's. JLT RAI. 290 HP and 308 tq at the wheels.

01-12-2008, 09:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
SxyXc Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 680	well the thing is i am thinking about selling this one for a manuel.. and i need to get the egr code gone, but if i takes a tuner. I don't have the money so i will just dish the 50 out reset the computer. __________________ Racing from a roll is just like masturbating, no matter how good you think you are, it is still not the real thing!

01-12-2008, 09:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,859	that's the best way... just disable EGR in the tune. Then it doesn't matter if you remove the hardware. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com My CarDomain Page

01-12-2008, 10:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
SxyXc Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 680	r3d, will the egr be one of the reasons my mpg has taken a dump lately?? i cleaned my MAf and that helped for the first 100 miles then i pulled the egr code, and mpg dropped some.. i also this tank put some injector cleaner in.. what else can i try to see what i can pull the mpgs up?? __________________ Racing from a roll is just like masturbating, no matter how good you think you are, it is still not the real thing!

01-12-2008, 04:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dangan Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 32	So if you disable EGR with say an Xcal you dont have to remove any of the hardware or plug any line or anythign?

01-14-2008, 02:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
SxyXc Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 680	good news, i found out why my egr was bad, and so was my a/c and heater. (would only blow out of defrost vents) I had a small vacuum leak, you know the lil red air pipes that go from the egr to the plenum, and also to the a/c one of those broke and vacuum leak.. fixed it and now all is good!@! __________________ Racing from a roll is just like masturbating, no matter how good you think you are, it is still not the real thing!

01-14-2008, 02:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 6,859	ROCK *. That's taking your time and looking for the little things. Good work. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com My CarDomain Page

01-14-2008, 09:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
SxyXc Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 680	well it was my a/c didn't work, and so i followed all the lines behind the glove box to find where they went, and the only one i couldn't find was the black one.. popped the hood and there it was... the funny thing it.. it was such an obvious break, but on such a small thing it was hard to see unless you were looking for it.. and now i know where that red plug of tubes go!! __________________ Racing from a roll is just like masturbating, no matter how good you think you are, it is still not the real thing!

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