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dookie2365 10-19-2006 08:55 AM

electric water pump gains, bs?
 
Electric Water Pump
Billet Electric water pump for 96-04 GT, designed for full time street and race duty, gain 18 RWHP and keeps engine cooler in the process due to billet impeller design.

is this pure bs or water pumps really steal that much power? doesnt seem like you would gain 18rwhp from that.............ill let the pros fill me in

jjtgiants 10-19-2006 09:05 AM

I think the 18rwhp is BS, but I think you probably could free up 5-8rwhp....
18rwhp is way over doing it.

Randy Stinchcomb 10-19-2006 09:28 AM

its BS, I remember Bob Cosby testing one on his F/S 1999 Cobra a few years ago and the difference between the stock water pump and the Meziere pump was + 3 rwhp for the electric one. I also have one on my Gt and nearly had a Major "melt-down" when the pump failed wth NO warning and the water temp went from 190* to 250* in @20 seconds, I now have an "idiot light" connected to the pump to warm me if that happens again

r3dn3ck 10-19-2006 09:52 AM

I've seen GT's get +12hp in the far upper end but peak was usually around 3-8 gain. Torque gains were about the same. Gains increase with RPMs so high winding motors see the best result.

Electric for street is just not a good idea. There's got to be a backup for a system like that or you end up with probs like Randy had at really bad times. I know of a handful of guys that carry a spare mechanical pump in the trunk because they're worried about the mezeire burning out.

03gtmustang 10-19-2006 11:18 AM

Not worth it if your car is a DD. Even if it isnt, money can be spent better else where before that.

r3dn3ck 10-19-2006 11:46 AM

w00t

dookie2365 10-19-2006 02:33 PM

figures

r3dn3ck 10-19-2006 02:37 PM

you should generally assume that any gains quoted by a part maker/seller are exaggerated to the point of not containing any truth. Then you won't be disappointed when that comes to pass.

dookie2365 10-19-2006 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 215627)
you should generally assume that any gains quoted by a part maker/seller are exaggerated to the point of not containing any truth. Then you won't be disappointed when that comes to pass.

i did expect it......just wanted verification

r3dn3ck 10-19-2006 02:41 PM

you're an optimist! wowzors... don't see many of those.

dookie2365 10-19-2006 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 215629)
you're an optimist! wowzors... don't see many of those.


what?

r3dn3ck 10-19-2006 03:28 PM

you held out hope that it might not be BS.. I wish I had some optimism left but I spent it all on Worldcom shares. Don't worry... it probably means you're just <30 and haven't become cynical yet. It's cool... I'm not pickin on ya. promise :)

dookie2365 10-19-2006 03:29 PM

haha

eventer289 10-19-2006 07:03 PM

It actually isn't BS. A little optimistic, but I read an article in M&FF and if I remember correctly, they gained 13hp.

03gtmustang 10-19-2006 07:05 PM

Notice they always gain a little more in MM&FF then the average person does.

Randy Stinchcomb 10-20-2006 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by eventer289 (Post 215715)
It actually isn't BS. A little optimistic, but I read an article in M&FF and if I remember correctly, they gained 13hp.



here's a tip: take the HP #'s you read in the magazines, divide that # by 2 and you might have a closer HP #. the reason they inflate the #'s is to promote the product that they got for free and are getting $$ from to advertise, to sell to you for a profit:boink:

spike_africa 10-20-2006 06:21 AM

well i know the f150's gain 10-even 14rwhp with that pump. They have been a few private dyno times with them nothing with the company or magazines involved. But thats f150's i would imagine the gians would be a bit less on the mustang due to manifolds being different, tunes, etc..

r3dn3ck 10-20-2006 09:36 AM

i'd say so. the new 5.4L 3V f150's that are supposed to be delivering 300bhp are putting 235ish to the pavement. That's a hair short of 25% driveline losses. They can use any help they can get.

jjtgiants 10-20-2006 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Randy Stinchcomb (Post 215815)
here's a tip: take the HP #'s you read in the magazines, divide that # by 2 and you might have a closer HP #. the reason they inflate the #'s is to promote the product that they got for free and are getting $$ from to advertise, to sell to you for a profit:boink:

I hear that! Jokers

yeayea0 10-21-2006 12:33 PM

my buddy gained 11rwhp on his 99 cobra

spike_africa 10-22-2006 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 215848)
i'd say so. the new 5.4L 3V f150's that are supposed to be delivering 300bhp are putting 235ish to the pavement. That's a hair short of 25% driveline losses. They can use any help they can get.

Sorry thats 2v trucks i had my f150 when the 3v was still a dream.


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