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ShapeShifter 10-04-2006 12:53 PM

Diablosport Users in here
 
k my 4.10s finally went in yesterday,and my question is when i change the axle ratio for the gears 4.10 doesnt come up...in the manual it says that im supposed to put it at 4.1 for 4.10 or 3.7 for 3.73...well in my tuner the numbers come up as 3.73,3.90,and 4.09...so i put it at 4.09,is that ok?...i drove next to my sister and my speedo is still off by 5mph...could i change something in the tuner so it can read accurately or do i need to live with it as is? thanks!

03gtmustang 10-04-2006 12:57 PM

Thats one of the reasons I dont like the predator. All their software is just weird. Do they still do everything in %? What about tire size?

ShapeShifter 10-04-2006 12:59 PM

well i must admit i didnt like what the performance tune was doing to my car,cause my car actually felt slower with it...and i have 315s in the rear if that answers anything...

03gtmustang 10-04-2006 01:03 PM

The tunes that come with the predators are TERRIBLE. I wouldnt use it if I was you. Go ahead and make any adjustment you can with tire/ rim size.

ShapeShifter 10-04-2006 01:07 PM

yep i used the predator tune for like a day and removed it since im just running the factory tune with the axle ratio adjustments....would you happen to know if the XCal2 has the 4.10 option for the gear axle ratio change? if it does looks like ill be selling this POS..thanks!

03gtmustang 10-04-2006 01:14 PM

Yep it does.

ShapeShifter 10-04-2006 01:14 PM

awesome...For Sale,hehe!

jjtgiants 10-04-2006 01:29 PM

So you guys are saying the Predator doesn't allow you to change your gear ratio to 4:10's....that can't be right, can it? I would call Diablo and ask them what's up with that. I hate how they do everything in %....especially the timing...that sucks. I ditched mine as well, went with a custom tune and loaded it directly to the cars computer

GT Ninja 10-04-2006 01:34 PM

Yeah, SCT is the way to go, if you just want pre-loaded tunes, get the new SCT XCal2 SF, which has (3) Performance tunes built-in for all (3) fuel grades and allows user adjustment of gear ratio, tire size (revs per mile), Performance or Economy modes, and several other adjustments for timing, air/fuel ratio, shift points, etc. It also can be converted to a standard XCal2 when you need to get a custom mail-order or dyno tune. I noticed an immediate different in throttle response after loading a tune on my car with this.

03gtmustang 10-04-2006 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 210968)
So you guys are saying the Predator doesn't allow you to change your gear ratio to 4:10's....that can't be right, can it? I would call Diablo and ask them what's up with that. I hate how they do everything in %....especially the timing...that sucks. I ditched mine as well, went with a custom tune and loaded it directly to the cars computer

Its true, for some reason its 4.09 instead of 4.10's. I use to have a Predator, then I went to an SCT chip, now I have a SCT XCal 2.

jjtgiants 10-04-2006 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by 03gtmustang (Post 210975)
Its true, for some reason its 4.09 instead of 4.10's. I use to have a Predator, then I went to an SCT chip, now I have a SCT XCal 2.

wow, that's retarded. You'd think they could at least get that right. I've been tempted to sell my predator and get an xcal 2, but it doesn't make sense for me right now.

03gtmustang 10-04-2006 01:56 PM

Yeah, the most important thing is get whatever your tuner uses. Obviously you want your tuner to be pretty good at what he does, then it wont matter what software you use. MD has started using Diablo now too.

jjtgiants 10-04-2006 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by 03gtmustang (Post 210987)
Yeah, the most important thing is get whatever your tuner uses. Obviously you want your tuner to be pretty good at what he does, then it wont matter what software you use. MD has started using Diablo now too.

Very good point.

03zincGT 10-05-2006 10:34 PM

Do you have 17 or 18'' bullitts? Don't forget to calibrate this also. Also I think you could probably use your digital speedometer(by holding the odometer reset button at startup) and then see if your speedometer is the same.

Cheddarbob 10-05-2006 11:22 PM

Have you updated from the web site lately. you may need to update the tunner. they add new things to it.

mcmmotorsports 10-06-2006 04:23 AM

I actually liked my Predator when I had it. I would still have it if Modular Powerhouse would've tuned with it. Anyways, 4.09 is what is needed with the 4.10's. It worked for me. Maybe your sisters MPH is off. http://www.mcmmotorsports.com/smilies/shrug.gif
You can ACCURATELY test yourself to see what your true MPH is:
All you need is a stopwatch, a highway with mile markers and at least a 55 mph speed limit.
Set your cruise to 60 mph on the highway.
Start your watch at a mile marker.
Travel one mile and stop your watch.
Divide 60 into your actual time. (ex: 60 divided by 52.070 seconds=1.15)
Now multiply that number by 60. (ex. 1.15x60=69 miles per hour)

Speedo is off in this example.

Also, something I did with my Predator was turn the timing ALL the way up to max. Pulled a little fuel out too. The user changable parameters are not that risky. Picked up quite a bit. Just make sure you use 93 octane.

Mtarte 10-06-2006 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by mcmmotorsports (Post 211423)
I actually liked my Predator when I had it. I would still have it if Modular Powerhouse would've tuned with it. Anyways, 4.09 is what is needed with the 4.10's. It worked for me. Maybe your sisters MPH is off. http://www.mcmmotorsports.com/smilies/shrug.gif
You can ACCURATELY test yourself to see what your true MPH is:
All you need is a stopwatch, a highway with mile markers and at least a 55 mph speed limit.
Set your cruise to 60 mph on the highway.
Start your watch at a mile marker.
Travel one mile and stop your watch.
Divide 60 into your actual time. (ex: 60 divided by 52.070 seconds=1.15)
Now multiply that number by 60. (ex. 1.15x60=69 miles per hour)

Speedo is off in this example.

Also, something I did with my Predator was turn the timing ALL the way up to max. Pulled a little fuel out too. The user changable parameters are not that risky. Picked up quite a bit. Just make sure you use 93 octane.

When you went to the lean side how far did you go? I did the same thing and leaned it out about 3 points and it started to get a little spark knock so I backed back to the stock setting,

mcmmotorsports 10-06-2006 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Mtarte (Post 211448)
When you went to the lean side how far did you go? I did the same thing and leaned it out about 3 points and it started to get a little spark knock so I backed back to the stock setting,

Don't remember, sorry.

03gtmustang 10-06-2006 10:27 AM

Itll be different for every car anyways.

ShapeShifter 10-06-2006 04:56 PM

hmm,i dont have the PC cables for the tuner so ill just buy those and see if they have updated anything on the site,thanks to all replies!!

ShapeShifter 10-06-2006 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by 03zincGT (Post 211397)
Do you have 17 or 18'' bullitts? Don't forget to calibrate this also. Also I think you could probably use your digital speedometer(by holding the odometer reset button at startup) and then see if your speedometer is the same.


i had DD 17" Bullitts but just today slapped on the stockers....and it still felt off,cause everyone seemed to be going faster or they were just hauling arse...but i am getting some 18" rears next week,so would i need to calibrate it for those?

ShapeShifter 10-06-2006 05:44 PM

another quick question...i can use my predator to check diagnostics on another mustang(ie my sisters stang) correct?

mcmmotorsports 10-06-2006 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by BeforeAeonsCame (Post 211603)
another quick question...i can use my predator to check diagnostics on another mustang(ie my sisters stang) correct?

Yes, and check out this site for tire size calculations. You can run 18's and still be okay with the speedo.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

ShapeShifter 10-06-2006 08:52 PM

cool thanks for the response and link!!

95STANG 10-07-2006 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by BeforeAeonsCame (Post 210964)
awesome...For Sale,hehe!

Justin at www.vmptuning.com has a diablo predator trade in program.

http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...=155&parent=66

ShapeShifter 10-07-2006 08:51 PM

thanks for the link,definately looking in to that!!!

ShapeShifter 10-12-2006 01:36 PM

one more question guys...i have the 4.10s in my car,yada yada yada...anyways i mentioned that my speedo is off,and another question i have is..if the speedo is are the RPMs off aswell? i dont know guys/gals but to me it seems my RPMs are in the same position as if they were stock gears...the car definately pulls harder,just that the whole speedo being off has gotten to my head....as the car is now speedo off and all im doing 50mph and the RPM needle is at 1500....? any feedback is appreciated,thanks!!

bassman97 10-12-2006 01:42 PM

Your rpm does not need to be recalibrated since it is not taken from the transmission (which is where the speed is taken from).

jjtgiants 10-12-2006 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by 95STANG (Post 211870)
Justin at www.vmptuning.com has a diablo predator trade in program.

http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...=155&parent=66

Good find, I had no idea there was such a "trade in program". Although it seems they are selling the Xcal II for $499 and taking a $100 off....I think you probably can find Xcal II's for $399 anyway. You might be better off selling it on a stang site or ebay.

ShapeShifter 10-12-2006 01:55 PM

k,cool thanks for the quick response!!...but what to do you think...what are my RPMs suppose to be at 50mph?


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