STOCK subframes?
 

Hey guys - should I bother to weld in ym stock subframes??? - will that help - or will only the aftermarket ones improve my ride? - Also if you have or have had them i would like some feedback on how they made the car feel to you - thanks.

I have MM full length sub frame connectors. They make my car feel very solid and tight in corners...less body creaks, groans and squeaks as well.

the stock ones only came on verts I think, and I hear they dont do much.

fork over the money for the steeda or Maximum Motorsports Full length SFC

I don't remember if my 03 GT ver had them, but I know my mach does and I can tell you they don't really do jack! You need full length weld in MM or Steeda's. I haven't ditched my stock SF connectors yet, but I'm planning to

I believe they are absolutely critical to the integrity of your car. I waited till I had 3,000 miles before I finally had them welded on and now I wish I did the first day. The car is now extremely solid without all the body twist that took place before. I have MM with the torque boxs reenforced.

bolting on sub-frame connectors is kinda like sleeping with your sister... sure it's a nice bit of tail with a blouse full of goodies but it's just wrong.

Seriously though, the stock bolt-on jobs are crap pure and simple, they lack width and wall thickness to the point that they're damn near cosmetic. Weld in a set from MM, Griggs, Steeda, etc... and you'll really notice a difference. No bolt-in connector is worth its weight in urine so welding new ones is your only hope of having a real benefit come from then being on your car at all.

Check with my boys at Apex (408-588-0075) and see if they still have their phat deal going. At one point they were <100 bucks for Griggs connectors. Griggs is TOP shelf, right up there with Maximum Motorsports.