exhaust

dusty · 07-06-2006, 08:50 PM

i live in florida do i need cats or not...is x pipe better than h pipe?....looking for that deep noise...i want off road...

RCTrucker7 · 07-06-2006, 10:52 PM

From this website ( http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/...316/ch0316.htm ) it looks like you do need cats.

"316.2935 Air pollution control equipment; tampering prohibited; penalty.--

(1)(a) It is unlawful for any person or motor vehicle dealer as defined in s. 320.27 to offer or display for retail sale or lease, sell, lease, or transfer title to, a motor vehicle in Florida that has been tampered with in violation of this section, as determined pursuant to subsection (7). Tampering is defined as the dismantling, removal, or rendering ineffective of any air pollution control device or system which has been installed on a motor vehicle by the vehicle manufacturer except to replace such device or system with a device or system equivalent in design and function to the part that was originally installed on the motor vehicle."

Also, with looking to get a better sound, keep this in mind too:

"316.272 Exhaust systems, prevention of noise.--

(1) Every motor vehicle shall at all times be equipped with an exhaust system in good working order and in constant operation, including muffler, manifold pipe, and tailpiping to prevent excessive or unusual noise. In no event shall an exhaust system allow noise at a level which exceeds a maximum decibel level to be established by regulation of the Department of Environmental Protection as provided in s. 403.061(13) in cooperation with the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. No person shall use a muffler cutout, bypass or similar device upon a vehicle on a highway.

(5) NOISE ABATEMENT EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS.--

(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.

(b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified."

PColav6 · 07-06-2006, 11:54 PM

Florida does NOT have an inspection, so I'd go catless

Go with H pipe.

dusty · 07-10-2006, 08:57 PM

From this website ( http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/...316/ch0316.htm ) it looks like you do need cats.

"316.2935 Air pollution control equipment; tampering prohibited; penalty.--

(1)(a) It is unlawful for any person or motor vehicle dealer as defined in s. 320.27 to offer or display for retail sale or lease, sell, lease, or transfer title to, a motor vehicle in Florida that has been tampered with in violation of this section, as determined pursuant to subsection (7). Tampering is defined as the dismantling, removal, or rendering ineffective of any air pollution control device or system which has been installed on a motor vehicle by the vehicle manufacturer except to replace such device or system with a device or system equivalent in design and function to the part that was originally installed on the motor vehicle."

Also, with looking to get a better sound, keep this in mind too:

"316.272 Exhaust systems, prevention of noise.--

(1) Every motor vehicle shall at all times be equipped with an exhaust system in good working order and in constant operation, including muffler, manifold pipe, and tailpiping to prevent excessive or unusual noise. In no event shall an exhaust system allow noise at a level which exceeds a maximum decibel level to be established by regulation of the Department of Environmental Protection as provided in s. 403.061(13) in cooperation with the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. No person shall use a muffler cutout, bypass or similar device upon a vehicle on a highway.

(5) NOISE ABATEMENT EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS.--

(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.

(b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified." wtf did u just say??????.....

jjtgiants · 07-10-2006, 09:06 PM

Isn't against federal law to remove stock working cats from any vehicle? Just go with cats man....it won't rob any HP and won't be annyoing loud (depending on your set up)....plus cats really do help keep the air clean.

*venom* · 07-10-2006, 09:21 PM

If you have a super loud exhaust and get pulled over by a cop he may check for cats. We dont have inspection but that doesnt mean its legal to go catless. If you want a deep rumble get an hpipe however most report xpipe has more gain in HP but a higher pitch sound. Its just not worth going catless unless you live away from the city.

Saleen S330 · 07-11-2006, 03:45 AM

I lived in panama city FL for 4 years. My 95 GT had no cats and was loud. Can they pull you over and check, yes, but unlikely. most cars are so low, they really have to get down to look and won't care about doing that. can they give you a ticket for being loud, yes, and i've seen it done there but once. It's against the Law to remove them, like anywhere but they don't do inspections in FL. I know some shops that won't install a catless h or x pipe, and i know some popular shops that don't care and will install them. So you will be safe not to have them. My other friends didn't have cats either.

Twin Turbo 330 · 07-11-2006, 05:30 AM

I'm from Florida and don't have cats. Have been pulled over for speeding but never for noise. Most cops love the way they sound or have one themselves. You will be fine. I had one cop who pulled me over for speeding ask what all i had done we talked more about my car then what i did wrong and i got a warning.

dusty · 07-13-2006, 09:19 PM

great replys guys thanks....looking to go catless.....anywhere i can find a full exhaust system for my 95 conv....i need headers also.....oh and :stupid:

chatmanv6 · 07-13-2006, 09:46 PM

I live in Fl in springhill near tampa but i go to tampa alot.. had an o/r x then switch to o/r h...never been bothered by cops...go catless

*venom* · 07-13-2006, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dusty

i live in florida do i need cats or not...is x pipe better than h pipe?....looking for that deep noise...i want off road...

To go back to your question, yes you do need cats its the law. Now if you dont the cat police is not going to come looking for you but just keep in mind that its illegal. Just because others do it and not get caught doesnt mean its legal. Is it worth the additional 3hp and a bit louder well thats all in personal taste. If you get a resonator type catback along with an xpipe its going to sound real raspy the cats will bring down the raspiness. Just consider the same situation with illegal tints in the front.

jacliff_3521 · 07-14-2006, 07:32 PM

I have a o/r Pro Chamber and SLP LM1s, live here in FL. pass cops all the time. no problems. Yes its illegal, so is alot of other things that cops dont give a spit about.

07-14-2006, 07:46 PM

I basically live in a big city...a suburb of, 15 min from downtown. I use no cats and haven't been bothered by law enforcement. I drive downtown and between the buildings my car is LOUD....and the tunnels, louder...I enjoy it.

07-06-2006, 08:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
dusty Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	exhaust i live in florida do i need cats or not...is x pipe better than h pipe?....looking for that deep noise...i want off road...

07-06-2006, 10:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
RCTrucker7 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 420	From this website ( http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/...316/ch0316.htm ) it looks like you do need cats. "316.2935 Air pollution control equipment; tampering prohibited; penalty.-- (1)(a) It is unlawful for any person or motor vehicle dealer as defined in s. 320.27 to offer or display for retail sale or lease, sell, lease, or transfer title to, a motor vehicle in Florida that has been tampered with in violation of this section, as determined pursuant to subsection (7). Tampering is defined as the dismantling, removal, or rendering ineffective of any air pollution control device or system which has been installed on a motor vehicle by the vehicle manufacturer except to replace such device or system with a device or system equivalent in design and function to the part that was originally installed on the motor vehicle." Also, with looking to get a better sound, keep this in mind too: "316.272 Exhaust systems, prevention of noise.-- (1) Every motor vehicle shall at all times be equipped with an exhaust system in good working order and in constant operation, including muffler, manifold pipe, and tailpiping to prevent excessive or unusual noise. In no event shall an exhaust system allow noise at a level which exceeds a maximum decibel level to be established by regulation of the Department of Environmental Protection as provided in s. 403.061(13) in cooperation with the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. No person shall use a muffler cutout, bypass or similar device upon a vehicle on a highway. (5) NOISE ABATEMENT EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS.-- (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured. (b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified." __________________ Go Slow or Go Fast. I really don't care. Just GO! Year & Model: 2005 GT 5 Spd Dyno Numbers: Zero. Dynosaurs are extinct. Quarter Mile Time: It's 25% of the time it takes me to go a full mile. Mods: Installed: SLP LoudMouths Steeda Complete C.A.I. Kit SCT X-Cal2 Tune Motive 4.10 Gears Sequential Taillights Next: Hurst Short Throw Shift Kit

07-06-2006, 11:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
PColav6 Moo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 3,897	Florida does NOT have an inspection, so I'd go catless Go with H pipe. __________________

07-10-2006, 09:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
jjtgiants jjtgiants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 3,652	Isn't against federal law to remove stock working cats from any vehicle? Just go with cats man....it won't rob any HP and won't be annyoing loud (depending on your set up)....plus cats really do help keep the air clean. __________________ Jack the Ripper: "STAY AWAY FROM THE METH ADDICTS for the LOVE OF GOD do NOT **** girls that are into crystal, they will suck you on that shit and you will be sittin there like a bad dave chapelle sketch in no time."

07-10-2006, 09:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
venom Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,225	If you have a super loud exhaust and get pulled over by a cop he may check for cats. We dont have inspection but that doesnt mean its legal to go catless. If you want a deep rumble get an hpipe however most report xpipe has more gain in HP but a higher pitch sound. Its just not worth going catless unless you live away from the city. __________________ http://www.mustangboards.com/mustang...500/ppuser/103

07-10-2006, 08:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
dusty Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	From this website ( http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/...316/ch0316.htm ) it looks like you do need cats. "316.2935 Air pollution control equipment; tampering prohibited; penalty.-- (1)(a) It is unlawful for any person or motor vehicle dealer as defined in s. 320.27 to offer or display for retail sale or lease, sell, lease, or transfer title to, a motor vehicle in Florida that has been tampered with in violation of this section, as determined pursuant to subsection (7). Tampering is defined as the dismantling, removal, or rendering ineffective of any air pollution control device or system which has been installed on a motor vehicle by the vehicle manufacturer except to replace such device or system with a device or system equivalent in design and function to the part that was originally installed on the motor vehicle." Also, with looking to get a better sound, keep this in mind too: "316.272 Exhaust systems, prevention of noise.-- (1) Every motor vehicle shall at all times be equipped with an exhaust system in good working order and in constant operation, including muffler, manifold pipe, and tailpiping to prevent excessive or unusual noise. In no event shall an exhaust system allow noise at a level which exceeds a maximum decibel level to be established by regulation of the Department of Environmental Protection as provided in s. 403.061(13) in cooperation with the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. No person shall use a muffler cutout, bypass or similar device upon a vehicle on a highway. (5) NOISE ABATEMENT EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS.-- (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured. (b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified." wtf did u just say??????.....

07-11-2006, 03:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Saleen S330 Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 900	I lived in panama city FL for 4 years. My 95 GT had no cats and was loud. Can they pull you over and check, yes, but unlikely. most cars are so low, they really have to get down to look and won't care about doing that. can they give you a ticket for being loud, yes, and i've seen it done there but once. It's against the Law to remove them, like anywhere but they don't do inspections in FL. I know some shops that won't install a catless h or x pipe, and i know some popular shops that don't care and will install them. So you will be safe not to have them. My other friends didn't have cats either.

07-11-2006, 05:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Twin Turbo 330 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 393	I'm from Florida and don't have cats. Have been pulled over for speeding but never for noise. Most cops love the way they sound or have one themselves. You will be fine. I had one cop who pulled me over for speeding ask what all i had done we talked more about my car then what i did wrong and i got a warning. __________________ 03 Sonic Blue GT (SOLD) Working on an 87' Notch now!

07-13-2006, 09:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
dusty Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	great replys guys thanks....looking to go catless.....anywhere i can find a full exhaust system for my 95 conv....i need headers also.....oh and :stupid:

07-13-2006, 09:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
chatmanv6 ChatmanV8 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: fl, brooksville Posts: 90	I live in Fl in springhill near tampa but i go to tampa alot.. had an o/r x then switch to o/r h...never been bothered by cops...go catless

07-14-2006, 07:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
jacliff_3521 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Port FL. Posts: 156	I have a o/r Pro Chamber and SLP LM1s, live here in FL. pass cops all the time. no problems. Yes its illegal, so is alot of other things that cops dont give a spit about.

07-14-2006, 07:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
zigzaggthefag321 Posts: n/a	I basically live in a big city...a suburb of, 15 min from downtown. I use no cats and haven't been bothered by law enforcement. I drive downtown and between the buildings my car is LOUD....and the tunnels, louder...I enjoy it.

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