Crappy times?

steve-o · 03-09-2006, 06:52 PM

I raced down the 1320 for the 1st time last year. I got in 35 to 40 passes total. When my car was stock I ran a blistering best of 15.3xx at 90mph. I installed a KB and ran a best of 13.1xx at 108mph, still on stock tires. Keep in mind I race at Bandimere speedway in Colorado. I just bought some BFG DR's for this year. All last year my 60' times were 2.0 to 2.2. What should I be at time and miles per hour wise? Any suggestions would be great. Also, I have stock axles and 3.73 gears. Does the axles stand up to very much abuse?

whitethunder46 · 03-09-2006, 06:53 PM

how much power you putin down? I'm reallllllly surprised at your times. Do you think altitude has a lot to do with it!??

steve-o · 03-09-2006, 06:59 PM

I think altitude has alot to do with it. I dyno'd at 426hp/444tq to the wheels corrected. There is a guy that I race with that has a killer cobra putting down over 700hp and he is running 11's.

spike_africa · 03-09-2006, 07:54 PM

is your car stick or auto? if its auto i wouldnt worry about breaking axles as it doesnt shock the drivetrain like a manual does. Other then that i dont really know what you are asking.

WaterDR · 03-09-2006, 09:55 PM

One word "altitude". N/A each 1000 feet will cost you .5 seconds.

steve-o · 03-09-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spike_africa

is your car stick or auto? if its auto i wouldnt worry about breaking axles as it doesnt shock the drivetrain like a manual does. Other then that i dont really know what you are asking.

My car is a 5-speed. I guess my 1st post was a bit confusing. I mainly just want to know what I should be at and if I should be concerned about the stock axles.

JayC · 03-10-2006, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!

One word "altitude". N/A each 1000 feet will cost you .5 seconds.

You're a little off there

Jay

GT4DUMMIES · 03-10-2006, 10:28 AM

Jay ... please tell me what you've got done man!!! - - wut is your nitrous setup and goodies ? - thanks

spike_africa · 03-10-2006, 11:50 AM

well if you are runnign those dr's on a 17 or 18' rim i wouldnt worry to much because there isnt wnough sidewall for them to hook really hard like a 16" or 15" rim would. I have many many passes on nittos on a 125shot out of the hole on my car over a years worth and i drive hard.

03-10-2006, 12:23 PM

Hey Stevo., always wondered what a stock GT could to at altitude.
Im in littleton.

Nice to see another colorado mustang owner.

steve-o · 03-10-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper

Hey Stevo., always wondered what a stock GT could to at altitude.
Im in littleton.

Nice to see another colorado mustang owner.

I have seen stock GT's go right at 15 at bandi. I noticed you have support our troops under your name. Are you military?

jeredan2003 · 03-11-2006, 03:38 PM

whAT a stock 99-04 GT running 15's??? GT's run 14 flat all day long. A KB GT should run lower 12's or high 11's. Not 13's......

There is either a driver problem or something is wrong with the car. Even at high altitude you can still pull a 9.10- 9.20 in the 1/8th mile at the high altitude track I go to.

Also your trap numbers are not what they should be which means theres something "not right" about your car. 420 whp GT can trap 116mph easy. I trapped 108mph with just a ZEX 75 Shot!

:surrender

steve-o · 03-11-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jeredan2003

whAT a stock 99-04 GT running 15's??? GT's run 14 flat all day long. A KB GT should run lower 12's or high 11's. Not 13's......

There is either a driver problem or something is wrong with the car. Even at high altitude you can still pull a 9.10- 9.20 in the 1/8th mile at the high altitude track I go to.

Also your trap numbers are not what they should be which means theres something "not right" about your car. 420 whp GT can trap 116mph easy. I trapped 108mph with just a ZEX 75 Shot!

:surrender

What is high altitude to you? Here is a link to our club in colorado and the timeslips. The guy that has the 2nd best time has well over 740hp to the wheels now. http://www.coloradostangs.com/forums/timeslips.php? Check it out. The guy that is #40 has a stock 03 GT......check that time out.

jeredan2003 · 03-12-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by steve-o

What is high altitude to you? Here is a link to our club in colorado and the timeslips. The guy that has the 2nd best time has well over 740hp to the wheels now. http://www.coloradostangs.com/forums/timeslips.php? Check it out. The guy that is #40 has a stock 03 GT......check that time out.

A KB GT Traps more than 108mph period. It would never trap just 108 unless your having problems or running on like 5 pounds of boost. A stock 03 cobra traps 112mph and I know for a fact that a KB GT will beat a stock cobra.....

Blue02GT · 03-12-2006, 03:59 PM

Altitude plays a big role but 420 rwhp going 13's and 108?
As far as the stock rear goes it will not hold up to that kind of power very long.
If you hook it's cooked! I would upgrade the axles at the least. If you have the money I would weld the torque boxes and axels tubes while I was at it.
An afternarket rear end would be a good idea also, just don't go with a Eaton they will not hold up and they do not replace them if you race them.

jeredan2003 · 03-12-2006, 04:11 PM

Theres also a Kenne Bell Cobra Timeslip on that site showing 116mph. LMAO.

Come on a Kenne Bell Cobra is gonna put down AT LEAST 550whp. Somewhere he lost about 100whp during that 1/4 mile run.......

High altitude isnt gonna take away a full second in the 1/4 mile.....

01GTBlown · 03-12-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeredan2003

whAT a stock 99-04 GT running 15's??? GT's run 14 flat all day long. A KB GT should run lower 12's or high 11's. Not 13's......

There is either a driver problem or something is wrong with the car. Even at high altitude you can still pull a 9.10- 9.20 in the 1/8th mile at the high altitude track I go to.

Also your trap numbers are not what they should be which means theres something "not right" about your car. 420 whp GT can trap 116mph easy. I trapped 108mph with just a ZEX 75 Shot!

:surrender

Ummm I agree here, im pushin 350 to the wheels and i trap at 112 with MAJOR traction problems and i'm in north idaho (1 hour away from canada in the mountains)...Somethin is wrong here!

steve-o · 03-12-2006, 05:31 PM

I ran my car when I went to Vegas last summer too and my miles per hour was 112 to 113 on my best times. Altitude kills. Bandi is at about 6500 ft. I would love to see your car run here. You would be pissed at the times. Oh....and all my runs were on the stock wheels and tires.

Blue02GT · 03-12-2006, 05:44 PM

I can see the 13.'s on stock tires. I have seen 03 Cobra's run 14's here at 413' due to lack of traction. I had no idea that your trap speed would drop off so much. You are making some serious power with the KB, we need to have you use my slicks and run at sea level. You'd go 11's and trap 115+.

steve-o · 03-12-2006, 06:02 PM

You going to WFC9?

Blue02GT · 03-13-2006, 06:22 PM

Most likely, depends on family stuff. We have a bunch of birthdays and such in May so even though I live 30 minutes from Gateway I always miss WFC.:wallbash:

flyinfox · 03-21-2006, 08:27 AM

blue02gt havn't seen you run i would like to and i wanna use your sliks i can't hook worth a damn and i would like to know what i could run if i could get past the 2.1 60" ft

dannyb785 · 03-21-2006, 08:56 AM

JEREDAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude, when in places that are a few thousand feet above sea level, air thins out. When air thins out, the engines have less air to breath, regardless of s/c.

When the engine has less air to breathe, it cant perform as well. That's why when you see drag racing competitions, theyre almost always in the southeast where it's flat. Colorado has either the highest or one of the highest elevations from sea level of the entire country. IT's no surprise that slappy and springs(badfish) havent gone to the track, because theyd still run 14's with all their mods.

Now if he brought his car to sunny florida, he'd be in the 12's easily, possibly 11's

steve-o · 03-21-2006, 01:31 PM

Bandimere = 6800 ft.

03-09-2006, 06:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
steve-o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 224	Crappy times? I raced down the 1320 for the 1st time last year. I got in 35 to 40 passes total. When my car was stock I ran a blistering best of 15.3xx at 90mph. I installed a KB and ran a best of 13.1xx at 108mph, still on stock tires. Keep in mind I race at Bandimere speedway in Colorado. I just bought some BFG DR's for this year. All last year my 60' times were 2.0 to 2.2. What should I be at time and miles per hour wise? Any suggestions would be great. Also, I have stock axles and 3.73 gears. Does the axles stand up to very much abuse? __________________ 2004 Mustang GT DSG...basic bolt-ons.

03-09-2006, 06:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	how much power you putin down? I'm reallllllly surprised at your times. Do you think altitude has a lot to do with it!?? __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

03-09-2006, 06:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
steve-o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 224	I think altitude has alot to do with it. I dyno'd at 426hp/444tq to the wheels corrected. There is a guy that I race with that has a killer cobra putting down over 700hp and he is running 11's. __________________ 2004 Mustang GT DSG...basic bolt-ons.

03-09-2006, 07:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,205	is your car stick or auto? if its auto i wouldnt worry about breaking axles as it doesnt shock the drivetrain like a manual does. Other then that i dont really know what you are asking. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

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03-10-2006, 11:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,205	well if you are runnign those dr's on a 17 or 18' rim i wouldnt worry to much because there isnt wnough sidewall for them to hook really hard like a 16" or 15" rim would. I have many many passes on nittos on a 125shot out of the hole on my car over a years worth and i drive hard. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

03-10-2006, 12:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jack The Ripper Posts: n/a	Hey Stevo., always wondered what a stock GT could to at altitude. Im in littleton. Nice to see another colorado mustang owner.

03-11-2006, 03:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	whAT a stock 99-04 GT running 15's??? GT's run 14 flat all day long. A KB GT should run lower 12's or high 11's. Not 13's...... There is either a driver problem or something is wrong with the car. Even at high altitude you can still pull a 9.10- 9.20 in the 1/8th mile at the high altitude track I go to. Also your trap numbers are not what they should be which means theres something "not right" about your car. 420 whp GT can trap 116mph easy. I trapped 108mph with just a ZEX 75 Shot! :surrender __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

03-12-2006, 03:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	Altitude plays a big role but 420 rwhp going 13's and 108? As far as the stock rear goes it will not hold up to that kind of power very long. If you hook it's cooked! I would upgrade the axles at the least. If you have the money I would weld the torque boxes and axels tubes while I was at it. An afternarket rear end would be a good idea also, just don't go with a Eaton they will not hold up and they do not replace them if you race them. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

03-12-2006, 04:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	Theres also a Kenne Bell Cobra Timeslip on that site showing 116mph. LMAO. Come on a Kenne Bell Cobra is gonna put down AT LEAST 550whp. Somewhere he lost about 100whp during that 1/4 mile run....... High altitude isnt gonna take away a full second in the 1/4 mile..... __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

03-12-2006, 05:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
steve-o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 224	I ran my car when I went to Vegas last summer too and my miles per hour was 112 to 113 on my best times. Altitude kills. Bandi is at about 6500 ft. I would love to see your car run here. You would be pissed at the times. Oh....and all my runs were on the stock wheels and tires. __________________ 2004 Mustang GT DSG...basic bolt-ons.

03-12-2006, 05:44 PM	#19 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	I can see the 13.'s on stock tires. I have seen 03 Cobra's run 14's here at 413' due to lack of traction. I had no idea that your trap speed would drop off so much. You are making some serious power with the KB, we need to have you use my slicks and run at sea level. You'd go 11's and trap 115+. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

03-12-2006, 06:02 PM	#20 (permalink)
steve-o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 224	You going to WFC9? __________________ 2004 Mustang GT DSG...basic bolt-ons.

03-13-2006, 06:22 PM	#21 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	Most likely, depends on family stuff. We have a bunch of birthdays and such in May so even though I live 30 minutes from Gateway I always miss WFC.:wallbash: __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

03-21-2006, 08:27 AM	#22 (permalink)
flyinfox go on3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 384	blue02gt havn't seen you run i would like to and i wanna use your sliks i can't hook worth a damn and i would like to know what i could run if i could get past the 2.1 60" ft __________________ 02 sonic blue KB gt 610hp 598 tq mods 2.6 kb 18 lbs motor broke in new tune New numbers more boost 714Hp 732Tq 2.6 23lbs stage 3 crower cams 4.30's it blew up once but it is alive again http://www.mpsautosalvage.com/parting/index.cfm

03-21-2006, 08:56 AM	#23 (permalink)
dannyb785 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,176	JEREDAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude, when in places that are a few thousand feet above sea level, air thins out. When air thins out, the engines have less air to breath, regardless of s/c. When the engine has less air to breathe, it cant perform as well. That's why when you see drag racing competitions, theyre almost always in the southeast where it's flat. Colorado has either the highest or one of the highest elevations from sea level of the entire country. IT's no surprise that slappy and springs(badfish) havent gone to the track, because theyd still run 14's with all their mods. Now if he brought his car to sunny florida, he'd be in the 12's easily, possibly 11's

03-21-2006, 01:31 PM	#24 (permalink)
steve-o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 224	Bandimere = 6800 ft. __________________ 2004 Mustang GT DSG...basic bolt-ons.