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Deathdiesel 11-25-2009 08:12 PM

Few Questions
 
As the title says ive got a few random questions about the stang. Would adding VAPs windstar intake on my car interfere with Cam change? Also would it affect having a supercharger/turbo? Or would i be better to go with nitrous if i get the intake because of other reasons? Any other things i should know?

spike_africa 11-25-2009 08:44 PM

What do you mean interfere with cam change? as in what cam you should be looking at? That manifold would be fine with boost or nitrous doesn't matter. Though the short runner stock setup you would think would be better for boost.

Deathdiesel 11-25-2009 10:21 PM

Cam change I guess forget I mentioned because there shouldn't be any way for it to interfere stock intake wouldn't. I meant with s/c like how would I bolt it on with that intake or would I just have to use a turbo? Also would I need any new bolts or etc or does the kit come with it? And what do you mean the stock short runner setup? Sorry biut with s/c and spray I'm clueless. Also this is my fir first post on my blackberry :D

spike_africa 11-27-2009 06:43 AM

Well there are two kinds of intake runner lengths, short and long. Long makes torque and power in the lower rpms, while short makes power in the mid to upper rang. So the windsor makes extra power because its a long runner on that little motor and it does better. To be honest I am kind of surprized that its so popular being its a long runner manifold.

As for bolting a supercharger on because of the fact that its different and moves the throttle body location from stock a supercharger kit isn't going to just simply toss right onto it. You will have to do some mods to make it work. If I was going boost I would use the stock manifold not the windsor.

Deathdiesel 11-27-2009 10:17 AM

Ah okay. Thats better, i guess what ill do is just keep my stock one and whenever i get around to putting some power on it if i do ill throw it back on. Either way by then i might have different plans. Damn, i just took a look at the directions for it and some of its kinda dodgy lol.

Mr. Zip 11-27-2009 11:11 AM

The windstar is great if you want to stay N/A.

Like he said, Nos and boost kits will contain brackets designed for the stock
throttle body location, so you'd have to rig something up yourself.

If you want to rebuild your engine with heads/cam/ and stay N/A, you'd
end up seeing like 15 more tq to the wheels with a windstar over a ported/
polished upper manifold.

SO: windstar = stock or rebuilt engine N/A
stock or ported/polished manifold = easier access to boost of any kind

Deathdiesel 11-27-2009 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Zip (Post 439584)
The windstar is great if you want to stay N/A.

Like he said, Nos and boost kits will contain brackets designed for the stock
throttle body location, so you'd have to rig something up yourself.

If you want to rebuild your engine with heads/cam/ and stay N/A, you'd
end up seeing like 15 more tq to the wheels with a windstar over a ported/
polished upper manifold.

SO: windstar = stock or rebuilt engine N/A
stock or ported/polished manifold = easier access to boost of any kind

K thanks, that cleared things up a good bit now. Now i just gotta figure out wth im gunna end up doing with my car. O.o

SnTBakosFinest 11-29-2009 02:55 AM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 439472)
As the title says ive got a few random questions about the stang. Would adding VAPs windstar intake on my car interfere with Cam change? Also would it affect having a supercharger/turbo? Or would i be better to go with nitrous if i get the intake because of other reasons? Any other things i should know?

I think I've answered this before.

I think it may have already been answered but I'm half drunk and don't feel like reading.

I'll say it FOR THE LAST TIME.

Windstar intake OWNS ANY V6 MUSTANG (EXCEPT FOR CUSTOM) INTAKE AROUND. Bang for buck? OWNS a port and polished stock intake.

Cam change affected? Not to my knowledge. Talk to Tom @ Supersixmotorsports. simple questions the dude doesn't bullshit doesn't talk about "if you bought this windstar bla bla bla im a dickhead" Hes straight forward.

Supercharger/Turbo the windstar acts MORE EFFICIENTLY.

Nitrous? Well, #1 on a direct port, it works better. Thats as far as it needs to go with nitrous. If you're shooting nitrous through the intake (i mean the cold air or w/e) it still sucks. You won't spray more then 150 shot. Now, with a direct port, its a different story.

The windstar intake, will add a significant amount of HP and TQ to your car. (VAP is just one of the guys who made a very good design, and if I wasn't thinking about parting out the motor, who I'd buy from.)

SnTBakosFinest 11-29-2009 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Zip (Post 439584)
The windstar is great if you want to stay N/A.

Like he said, Nos and boost kits will contain brackets designed for the stock
throttle body location, so you'd have to rig something up yourself.

If you want to rebuild your engine with heads/cam/ and stay N/A, you'd
end up seeing like 15 more tq to the wheels with a windstar over a ported/
polished upper manifold.

SO: windstar = stock or rebuilt engine N/A
stock or ported/polished manifold = easier access to boost of any kind

... NOS the brand might. Nitrous itself, is kinda, fuck it put it here type of deal. And I've already ansered this. See previous post.

On the v6, nitrous will build the torque from the launch, unless you're planning on doing a nasty ass turbo setup with an auto involved. However, I've ran into KB'd v8s (relatively stock vettes) and pullied Cobras who won't touch me on a launch with nitrous.

Turbos and SCs tend to like to build top end. And to be perfectly honest, until I see someone whos whooping ass running lower then 10s on this forum with a v6 on a blower, I'll swear by a turbo on these cars.

Check out where the guys have actually put the times down at v6p. And ask them. With the windstar, I can give you what I know. With boost though, its up to talk to them. However, I know the records have been set with a windstar using a v6 mustang motor, on a turbo.

H/C/I or a full on stroker, the windstar is actually more of a power producer for the motor.

Deathdiesel 11-29-2009 01:59 PM

Gotcha, I think everythings cleared up about the intake for sure now the only question I could possibly have is s/c vs nitrous.I know nitrous is much cheaper and as you say jumps much better off the line which I'm worried more about than top end. Especially since my car is such a cop magnet recently. But I'm gunna do a bit of research about before I start naggin the hell outa u guys with questions bout that. :P


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