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suckmystang04 10-06-2009 08:32 PM

Accel coil pack help
 
hey guys i have a question about the accel coil pack. i have a friend whohas msd wires, and he said that the boots dont fit over the coil. so does anyone know any spark plug wires that will work for this coil? please help, o, and hears a link to what iam talking about...

http://www.americanmuscle.com/accel-...ck-9404v6.html

WOTStang205 10-26-2009 09:10 PM

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Yes, the MSD Wires dont fit over the Accel Coil Pack..

However for my 03 V6 I put in a Screamin Demon Coil Pack with AM's MSD wires 8.5mm. Man I gotta tell you I felt a difference in horse power.

Plus the Demon Coil pack fit just perfectly where the stock Coil pack was.. Very easy installation. I would suggest getting it. This combo was great!! =)


Screamin Demon Coil Pack
http://www.performancedistributors.com/01mustangv6.htm

MSD Wires at AM.
http://www.americanmuscle.com/msd-85...es-0104v6.html

Hope That Helps Bro..

Enjoy =)

3.8LMustang 10-26-2009 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by WOTStang205 (Post 435905)
Yes, the MSD Wires dont fit over the Accel Coil Pack..

However for my 03 V6 I put in a Screamin Demon Coil Pack with AM's MSD wires 8.5mm. Man I gotta tell you I felt a difference in horse power.

Plus the Demon Coil pack fit just perfectly where the stock Coil pack was.. Very easy installation. I would suggest getting it. This combo was great!! =)


Screamin Demon Coil Pack
http://www.performancedistributors.com/01mustangv6.htm

MSD Wires at AM.
http://www.americanmuscle.com/msd-85...es-0104v6.html

Hope That Helps Bro..

Enjoy =)

question...why didnt you just buy the screamin demon ignition coil pack and the livewire spark plug wires as a combo pack?

WOTStang205 10-26-2009 09:27 PM

Lol, Because I ordered the Demon coil pack from eBay. =) Haha

Deathdiesel 10-27-2009 02:11 PM

Whats the difference between the AM wires and these, if anyone knows.
http://www.stangmods.com/Mustang-Ign...es-p/00081.htm

WOTStang205 10-27-2009 04:42 PM

Those wires are only 8mm.. or you can get the blue or red wires witch are 9mm according to the specs..

The MSD wires from AM is 8.5mm.. My opinion is, I always go with a brand named part..

Deathdiesel 10-27-2009 04:52 PM

Ah, okay. So do you know how the hell to change these wires? Im in the middle of it atm, and i got halfway through, and theres a dam clip holding the wires together behind the engine block. The wires go from the spark plugs, route behind the upper part of the block, then back to the coil pack. At the corner of the block the clip is fuckin rock solid and i cant get leverage to break it or get it out. Here i kinda half ass sketched this to show a bit. Help please!
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...100_0159-1.jpg
The teal X is the coil pack, the red X is where the clip is at behind the intake.

WOTStang205 10-27-2009 05:04 PM

Yes it should be very simple.. are you talking about the clip that holds the wires down? If so, you need a small flat head screwdriver the pry the clip open.. there should be a small opening where you can fit the flat head in.. let me know how your doing =) glad to help

Deathdiesel 10-27-2009 05:21 PM

Ugh..i finally got the clip off, lil bastard got my hands torn up. Now i think i got all the clips off but when i try to pull the wires through, it wont budge. There might be another clip but it would have to be in the very middle of the motor, and there would be no possible way for me to reach it. Yea i knew the clips come off with a small flathead ill have to take a pic of what i meant later. At this point i can reach my hole arm in and pull on the wires and they dont budge and on both sides i feel no clip. Info? Also when i feel the wires on one side, and pull on the other i dont feel tension so i know something is stopping me from pulling them through.

WOTStang205 10-27-2009 05:30 PM

Are you talking about the wires on the spark plugs? you need to just pull it. lol MAN power dude.. Haha.

Deathdiesel 10-27-2009 05:37 PM

Greaaaat...i found another clip dirctly behind the throttle body area, theres nooooo way ill be able to get it. There has to be some other way to get it than what im going, because i have small hands and i BARELY fit my hands in there to find it. This is the same type of clip as the last one giving me trouble i can tell, i might just fucking snap this one...if i can.

WOTStang205 10-27-2009 05:45 PM

wow why is it all the way in the back? mine was just on top of the intake manifold. oh when you are putting your wires in, dont make it touch any metal peace especially the headers you dont want the wires to melt.. try keep them away. =) good luck

Deathdiesel 10-27-2009 05:58 PM

Yea i know, they make these clips so they dont do that actually..I have pictures here, i could get it if, i took off the hoses with marks on them. What are these hoses for and what could be the consequences for taking them off a short bit? At this point all i wanna do tonight is get the old wires out so i can finish the rest tommorow.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...l/100_0186.jpg
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...l/100_0187.jpg
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...l/100_0190.jpg

WOTStang205 10-27-2009 07:33 PM

Wow thats weird, Mine was all very easy.. maybe your doing something wrong Haha doubt it, every car is made differently like they say..

Deathdiesel 10-27-2009 08:41 PM

No, im sure what im doing is correct, its just the doushebags in ford decided to make 2000 verts impossible to redo wires...I gave up for the night. Tommorow ill start fresh and having a buddy of mine help. Ive gotten 3 wires on and now need 3 more. I started it up with 3 new ones on and 3 old ones and it ran pretty rough, would that be because i put half and half? Also what would it sound like if i misplaced wires on wrong plugs?

WOTStang205 10-27-2009 10:05 PM

lmao dude your nuts man hahah.. For my 03 v6 Vert, I changed out the wires and also the coil pack took me about 45 min.. lol and i made my wires a nice and neat..

3.8LMustang 10-28-2009 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by WOTStang205 (Post 435919)
Lol, Because I ordered the Demon coil pack from eBay. =) Haha

cheater....lol

ya i ordered that combo kit from performance distributors :smokin:

drag_racer33 10-28-2009 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by WOTStang205 (Post 435905)
Yes, the MSD Wires dont fit over the Accel Coil Pack..

However for my 03 V6 I put in a Screamin Demon Coil Pack with AM's MSD wires 8.5mm. Man I gotta tell you I felt a difference in horse power.

Plus the Demon Coil pack fit just perfectly where the stock Coil pack was.. Very easy installation. I would suggest getting it. This combo was great!! =)


Screamin Demon Coil Pack
http://www.performancedistributors.com/01mustangv6.htm

MSD Wires at AM.
http://www.americanmuscle.com/msd-85...es-0104v6.html

Hope That Helps Bro..

Enjoy =)

On that site is says for 01-04, is there a reason why it wouldnt work for a 00? I though they were essentially the same engine (i know the crank pulley is different).

WOTStang205 10-28-2009 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by 3.8LMustang (Post 436107)
cheater....lol

ya i ordered that combo kit from performance distributors :smokin:

Cheater??? Hahahahaha thats what eBay is for can get parts just alittle cheaper hahah Man I tell you, your not going to be disappointed with that coil pack..let me know how it goes..




drag racer33

The coil pack mounts look different... Heres the coil pack I found on eBay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-20...Q5fAccessories

Deathdiesel 10-28-2009 06:09 PM

Ugh.. FUCK..I got all the old wires out, and put all the new ones in. Try to crank it up and no go. It cranks but after about the 4th cylinder firing it stops. It also squeels/groans sometimes. Can anyone with a 2000 v6 do me a big favor and look at from which post from the coil pack the wire leads to which plug. If you can draw it or explain it real well id really appreciate it...I really just wanna get this over with.

WOTStang205 10-28-2009 06:59 PM

lol aight ill draw out mine for you might be the same firing sequence... =)

WOTStang205 10-28-2009 07:50 PM

actually I found this...

this should help you

3.8 V6

http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2005/firingorder.php

its on the right had side of the picture. Its the same order as mine. =)

Enjoy

spike_africa 10-29-2009 06:52 AM

You most likely have the wires in the wrong spot. You need to check to make sure they are firing in the correct order. Welcome to working on cars, shit happens. Its how we all learn :)

Deathdiesel 10-29-2009 03:53 PM

Ugh FFS...i tried the order from the link i think and it still didnt fucking work...Im assuming the big rectangle going up and down in order is supposed to be the engine block right? And the sideways one going is supposed to be where the connecting end of the wires go?

Deathdiesel 10-29-2009 04:45 PM

And how the fuck do i hook up videos from my cam corder, idk how to make the computer recognize it.

WOTStang205 10-29-2009 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 436294)
Ugh FFS...i tried the order from the link i think and it still didnt fucking work...Im assuming the big rectangle going up and down in order is supposed to be the engine block right? And the sideways one going is supposed to be where the connecting end of the wires go?

Yes The Top Box is the engine firing sequence..the box below it is the order the coil pack fires..make sure you have the wiring connected correctly to the coil pack ( it aint in order)

Deathdiesel 10-29-2009 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by WOTStang205 (Post 436329)
Yes The Top Box is the engine firing sequence..the box below it is the order the coil pack fires..make sure you have the wiring connected correctly to the coil pack ( it aint in order)

K, what do you mean at that last part? And i double checked im almost positive that they are correct. Ill check again tommorow or saturday. Tommorow most likely gunna go to a party. Ill post a vid up of what its doing if possible.

WOTStang205 10-29-2009 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 436341)
K, what do you mean at that last part? And i double checked im almost positive that they are correct. Ill check again tommorow or saturday. Tommorow most likely gunna go to a party. Ill post a vid up of what its doing if possible.


look at that picture again.. coil pack... firing sequence are as follows:
(even OEM coil pack fires in this order)

Coil Pack
1 2 3
5 6 4

Engine firing sequence

3 6

2 5

1 4

Deathdiesel 10-29-2009 09:07 PM

Yea thats exactly what i did. I wrote it on my arm to make sure too. Im assuming the numbers on the coil pack go to each cylinder. Like where it says 1 on the coil pack it goes to the cylinder labeled one or coil pack labeled 6 goes to the 6th cylinder. Also i cant tell if the firing sequence is looking at it as if you were staring into the engine bay or just when your inside the car.

WOTStang205 10-29-2009 09:18 PM

your infront of your car staring at the engine bay =) lol idk what your doing wrong..


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