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Stephen4036 12-15-2008 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 370165)
i am always amazed by the closed minds of the "muscle car" guys....more so the mustang fans, in the 80's it was all about the 15 inch.....ten hole stockers were the only cool thing. then when the 16 pony wheels were everywhere, everybody had to run them.....now its the 17 inch, come on guys....free your minds.

i am so glad i do not follow the trends, that i do not need to run what others think is cool.....

so the way i see it, you can run 17 inch stockers like everybody else...or you can spend a few bucks and set yourself apart from the thousands of other cars that all look the same....if i had wanted to be like everybody else i would have left it stock.


haha thanks dr.phil.

afterhours 12-16-2008 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Stephen4036 (Post 371178)
haha thanks dr.phil.

some people are followers......some choose thier own path.

King 12-16-2008 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 371363)
some people are followers......some choose thier own path.

http://www.icanhasforce.com/wp-conte...-yoda-orly.jpg

Lazerred6 12-16-2008 08:38 AM

This is the path of big rims on a stang
http://www.druidcityonline.com/fixed...ridge-Out3.jpg

Lazerred6 12-16-2008 08:42 AM

and putting big rims on a stang isn't thinking for youself either tons of people have done it already

if you want to talk about being original you have to get these

http://www.mattracks.com/assets/images/w_105m1a2SA.jpg

King 12-16-2008 08:45 AM

I've said it once, I'll say it again...these are where it's at

http://www.geekologie.com/2007/11/01/roulette-rims.jpg

lol

JackThe Ripper 12-16-2008 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 371363)
some people are followers......some choose thier own path.


Dude, there is nothing origional about putting 20's on mustangs. That shit has been done countless times, trust me, putting 20's on a car is far from "origional"

and every time they did it, it still looked like shit.

go ahead and follow all the gangsta thug wanna-bes and slap some rims on the car that are too big for it.

you go with your origional non-conformist self.

lol

King 12-16-2008 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper (Post 371451)
Dude, there is nothing origional about putting 20's on mustangs. That shit has been done countless times, trust me, putting 20's on a car is far from "origional"

and every time they did it, it still looked like shit.

go ahead and follow all the gangsta thug wanna-bes and slap some rims on the car that are too big for it.

you go with your origional non-conformist self.

lol

You know that by being a non-conformist, you're being a conformist? Because you must conform into non-conformism, which totally ruins the point. It's a giant loophole if you think about it.

JackThe Ripper 12-16-2008 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by King (Post 371456)
You know that by being a non-conformist, you're being a conformist? Because you must conform into non-conformism, which totally ruins the point. It's a giant loophole if you think about it.

well, i guess if yer gonna take pride in non conformity it might as well be over something as shallow as what size of wheels to put on yer car, that way you can act as if you have some enlightened viewpoint. I mean, god forbid origionality on something that is actually worth worrying about.

i mean, that is a mark of true origionality that can not be denied by anyone.

BY ANYONE DAMMIT!

King 12-16-2008 02:17 PM

LMAO

This thread is delivering more than that smack thread, hahaha

afterhours 12-16-2008 04:07 PM

google custom mustangs...and you will se hundreds of pics of mustangs with, cobra, mach, bullit and all other maner of stock wheel. go to a car show or just drive down the street and most of will see "your" or a car just like yours pass right by you...it's not just your choice of wheels, its a mindset.....

i choose to buy what i want. even if the hillbillies think its gansta'.

JackThe Ripper 12-16-2008 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 371484)
google custom mustangs...and you will se hundreds of pics of mustangs with, cobra, mach, bullit and all other maner of stock wheel. go to a car show or just drive down the street and most of will see "your" or a car just like yours pass right by you...it's not just your choice of wheels, its a mindset.....

i choose to buy what i want. even if the hillbillies think its gansta'.


do you see hundreds of pink H2's running around with daisy yellow rims? No. You know why? it looks like shit. People dont avoid painting thier H2 Pink because they are close minded, they just realize it looks rediculous.

Believe it or not, this isnt some elitist brotherhood of muscle car fanatics throwing 20 inch wheels on the bonfire. like i have repeatedly said, most people on here do like 20 inch rims, but they have to fit with the car they are on. They look great on a LOT of cars, but the 99-04 mustang aint it, they just look stupid because they call WAY too much attention to themselves and maake the rest of the car look ,like an afterthought

like i said, i like 20 inch rims on a LOT of different cars, but when you put them on a 99-04, they just stand out way too much. They DONT fit the car.

When doing modifications to a car you want to make sure the thing looks good as a whole. You want everything about the car to compliment everything else, putting 20 inch rims on a 99-04 just doesent compliment anything, instead it SCREAMS out "HEY LOOK I HAVE 20 INCH FUCKING RIMS!"

i cant help it you have no taste, i cannot help the fact that you apparently think all you have to do to make a car look nice is put on some "phat 20 inch dubs yop"

so i guess YES, i do have a mindset on this, and my mindset is i wouldnt want my car looking like shit.

you on the other hand, apparently think you can throw 20 inch rims on a fucking pinto and have a nice ride.

King 12-16-2008 06:54 PM

Why do you always have to hate on the pinto, man? lol

cpthowdy 12-16-2008 07:40 PM

man, what did i miss?lol...

King 12-16-2008 07:49 PM

A couple of days ago we were talking about what to put an LS1 engine in, and I mentioned that a guy in town put one in his pinto and ever since this place has been hater-city for the pinto-community.

JackThe Ripper 12-16-2008 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by cpthowdy (Post 371514)
man, what did i miss?lol...

Some guy on here is touting how awesome 20 inch rims are on a mustang and how cool and origional he is for having 20's and that we are all conformists or part of the ol boys club or some crap..., and im just being stubborn and wont let it go.

Hey... at least i can admit it.


Originally Posted by King (Post 371517)
A couple of days ago we were talking about what to put an LS1 engine in, and I mentioned that a guy in town put one in his pinto and ever since this place has been hater-city for the pinto-community.

oh yah i forgot about that

lol

Black Sunshine 12-17-2008 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 371484)
google custom mustangs...and you will se hundreds of pics of mustangs with, cobra, mach, bullit and all other maner of stock wheel. go to a car show or just drive down the street and most of will see "your" or a car just like yours pass right by you...it's not just your choice of wheels, its a mindset.....

i choose to buy what i want. even if the hillbillies think its gansta'.

It takes a lot to make me say this to a fellow 'Stanger, but you really are a moron.

I have 18" wheels on my 'Stang and I have never seen another like mine in my area. I am sure that there are other Mustangs that have 18" wheels, but as soon as I do see another that looks just like mine, I'll do something else tasteful to stand out again.

There is a difference between customization that has taste and customization that is tasteless. I did take your advice and Google 'custom Mustangs' and you contradicted yourself. I saw some that looked very tasteful and well done, others looked so bad they could make a goat vomit. The 'Stangs I did see that had 20" wheels and looked remotely good were S197's. The other body styles look like shit. It just doesn't look right.

While you do have the right to your opinion and you also have the right to 'buy what you want', that doesn't mean that what you choose won't look like something you'd see on the cover of 'Homie G Dawg' magazine. Call me a 'hillbilly' all you want. I'd rather be associated with toothless rednecks that wipe their asses with corncobs and eat roadkill than thieving-ass gangsters that kill innocent bystanders in gun fights because someone is on their 'territory' that they don't even own to begin with, just because they want to be cool.

You are right when you said it isn't 'just your choice of wheels, it is a mindset'. While our minds are set on tasteful wheels that go with the car, yours is set on something that will not flow with the body, will not look right on the car, and will generate nothing but hysterical laughs amongst people who know what a Mustang embodies and what they should really look like. Mustangs are legends. They embody true American Muscle and most people envison true American spirit when they look at one that is modded with taste. The key is to do things that honor the car. Putting 20's on any body style other than an S197 is like taking a shit on a veteran's grave. You're defiling something that is truly American and deserves respect.

Which is why I think that anyone that puts anything larger than 18's on any 'Stang below the year 2005 should be kicked in the throat. :D

I rest my fuckin' case. :t:

00blkstanggt 12-17-2008 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 371484)
google custom mustangs...and you will se hundreds of pics of mustangs with, cobra, mach, bullit and all other maner of stock wheel. go to a car show or just drive down the street and most of will see "your" or a car just like yours pass right by you...it's not just your choice of wheels, its a mindset.....

i choose to buy what i want. even if the hillbillies think its gansta'.

Go buy your ugly ass 20's. Why don't you just upgrade and go with 22's. Waste all that money for the rims, then the extra amount it's going to cost for the big ass tires and your car will still look like shit to any car enthusiast or mustang fan. I'm sure you will get a lot of compliments in the hood. Nobody who loves cars will actually think your car looks good. Oh, and while your at it, why don't you throw on the 20s emblem that all the original people like to put on their cars these days.

Of course if you really wanted to be cool, you would buy some junked up caddy el dorado or beat up pontiac and throw some 22s or 24s on it. Now that is original.

afterhours 12-17-2008 09:58 AM

sorry to break to you....but you do not decide what makes a car look good. you only have your opinion of what looks good, what is tasteful and what looks like ass.

when modding you car, you should only be concerned with one thing....what looks good to you. you are paying for it, you should have what you want.

this may mean 17's or it may mean 20's and sometimes maybe 22's.....and while that may seem "gangsta" to you, the fact is that to the owner it looks good.

while your taste may be the norm, and you may be able to find 100 guys all driving on 18 cobra's to back you up....in the end its still just your opinion, no matter how many post you have or your status on this website...

Lazerred6 12-17-2008 10:01 AM

It's 17 inch cobras thanks

00blkstanggt 12-17-2008 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 371685)
sorry to break to you....but you do not decide what makes a car look good. you only have your opinion of what looks good, what is tasteful and what looks like ass.

when modding you car, you should only be concerned with one thing....what looks good to you. you are paying for it, you should have what you want.

this may mean 17's or it may mean 20's and sometimes maybe 22's.....and while that may seem "gangsta" to you, the fact is that to the owner it looks good.

while your taste may be the norm, and you may be able to find 100 guys all driving on 18 cobra's to back you up....in the end its still just your opinion, no matter how many post you have or your status on this website...

Be that it may, your car will still look ugly, be slower, cost more to replace tires, and gas mileage will be worse. So I really see no benefit in it. Even if they had 20" cobras, it would still look like ass. But do what you want, but next time don't come into a mustang forum and ask people their opinions. Obviously everyone gave you their opinion and it was all the same. 20s are no good on a 94-04 stang.

afterhours 12-17-2008 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by 00blkstanggt (Post 371697)
Be that it may, your car will still look ugly, be slower, cost more to replace tires, and gas mileage will be worse. So I really see no benefit in it. Even if they had 20" cobras, it would still look like ass. But do what you want, but next time don't come into a mustang forum and ask people their opinions. Obviously everyone gave you their opinion and it was all the same. 20s are no good on a 94-04 stang.


if your going to talk shit...know what you are talking about. i never asked your opinion, i know what i like....

if i was worried about the cost, i would drive a civic....if i need to go faster i will open the valve on the bottle or change the jets. when i really want to go fast i will ride the bike.

Black Sunshine 12-17-2008 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 371685)
sorry to break to you....but you do not decide what makes a car look good. you only have your opinion of what looks good, what is tasteful and what looks like ass.

I have had all kinds of people tell me that my car looks awesome. Black people who drive hoopties, fellow Mustang owners, regular ol' Joes, etc. I have never had one person tell me that my car looks bad.


when modding you car, you should only be concerned with one thing....what looks good to you. you are paying for it, you should have what you want.
Like I said, I absolutely agree with you on this point. We are not telling you that you cannot do it... we are just giving you our honest opinions.


this may mean 17's or it may mean 20's and sometimes maybe 22's.....and while that may seem "gangsta" to you, the fact is that to the owner it looks good.
Having 20's doesn't necessarily look 'gangsta' to me. The look of the rest of the car could make it fall into this category. If the owner thinks it looks good, fine. But the owner shouldn't cry and get all asshurt when a true Mustang enthusiast or anyone else tells him his car looks like dog shit.


while your taste may be the norm, and you may be able to find 100 guys all driving on 18 cobra's to back you up....in the end its still just your opinion, no matter how many post you have or your status on this website...
My taste the norm? Hahahahaha! That proves you don't know anything about me. For fuck's sake, I am a girl, I love B rated horror movies, I collect skull and skeleton things, I have a morbid fascination with serial killers and I even have a small 3' tall skeleton named 'Skinner' who rides in my backseat. I wear Halloween socks when it isn't Halloween, Christmas socks when it isn't Christmas, and I cuss like nobody's business. So don't try that bullshit-ass excuse about normalcy with me. I am the weirdest person I know and I am damn proud of it.

You can still find 100 guys all driving on 20's everyday, too. I see more of that shit around where I live than I see tastefully modded Mustangs.

I honestly don't believe you want to put 20's on a Mustang to 'stand out' and not be like everyone else. There are things you could do to your car that are tasteful that make it stand out. For instance, spend the money you would spend on those wheels and get a custom paintjob. Get custom seats installed. Get 18" wheels that are anondized whatever color you want that will still look good and not be like anything else on earth. With those 20's, you will be just like everyone else, too.

I don't see you arguing for anything original or even promoting anything that hasn't been done before.

All in all, you like what you like and you have every right to.


Edit: 00blkstanggt, afterhours wasn't the original poster of this thread. The OP actually agreed with us.

Stephen4036 12-17-2008 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Black Sunshine (Post 371643)
It takes a lot to make me say this to a fellow 'Stanger, but you really are a moron.


you call me names all the time ;)

96TangerineBossGT 12-17-2008 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by 00blkstanggt (Post 371697)
Be that it may, your car will still look ugly, be slower, cost more to replace tires, and gas mileage will be worse. So I really see no benefit in it. Even if they had 20" cobras, it would still look like ass. But do what you want, but next time don't come into a mustang forum and ask people their opinions. Obviously everyone gave you their opinion and it was all the same. 20s are no good on a 94-04 stang.

They do have 20" Cobras. I had a set on mine (Didn't buy them myself, they were on the car when I bought it). Everyone told me they looked awesome. Everyone thought they were 18s. They really didn't look bad at all. Now granted, there was some scrubbing issues that had to be worked out and of course the obvious cost of replacement. They will also hurt performance some, but if you aren't looking to race or any of that, then what difference does it make.

I have since swapped to some 17 black cobras. Just got tired of the chrome look. I agree with Black Sunshine that it all depends on what is going on with the rest of the car. USUALLY when someone does something like this, they are going full on body kit, chrome everywhere, paint job, etc, all the stuff that draws the extra attention.

The bottom line is, if you like the look of your own car, then it shouldn't matter what others think. Why are you trying to impress people you don't even know?

00blkstanggt 12-17-2008 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Black Sunshine (Post 371703)
Edit: 00blkstanggt, afterhours wasn't the original poster of this thread. The OP actually agreed with us.

Whoops, guess I should have read from the beginning. Oh well, his opinion or contribution to this thread isn't a good one.

Black Sunshine 12-17-2008 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Stephen4036 (Post 371718)
you call me names all the time ;)

Yeah, but to me you're a likeable moron. :)

zigzagg321 12-17-2008 01:24 PM

afterhours wants to 'stangup'

JackThe Ripper 12-17-2008 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by 96TangerineBossGT (Post 371719)
They do have 20" Cobras. I had a set on mine (Didn't buy them myself, they were on the car when I bought it). Everyone told me they looked awesome. Everyone thought they were 18s. They really didn't look bad at all. Now granted, there was some scrubbing issues that had to be worked out and of course the obvious cost of replacement. They will also hurt performance some, but if you aren't looking to race or any of that, then what difference does it make.

I have since swapped to some 17 black cobras. Just got tired of the chrome look. I agree with Black Sunshine that it all depends on what is going on with the rest of the car. USUALLY when someone does something like this, they are going full on body kit, chrome everywhere, paint job, etc, all the stuff that draws the extra attention.

The bottom line is, if you like the look of your own car, then it shouldn't matter what others think. Why are you trying to impress people you don't even know?

Damn man, where the hell have you been? lol.. havent seen you on here in ages!

96TangerineBossGT 12-17-2008 02:15 PM

I've been around, just don't post as much while at work....

afterhours 12-17-2008 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by 00blkstanggt (Post 371720)
Whoops, guess I should have read from the beginning. Oh well, his opinion or contribution to this thread isn't a good one.

opinion is not good or bad.....because it does not agree with your opinion.

and my contribution...is that to each thier own, buy what you like. there is not right or wrong, good or bad....just opinion, and the only one that matters is the owners.

King 12-17-2008 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 371744)
there is not right or wrong, good or bad....

You sir, are wrong.

Example A: Good

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/wp-con...iablostang.jpg

Example B: Bad

http://image.carcraft.com/f/miscella...nch-wheels.jpg

afterhours 12-17-2008 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by King (Post 371746)

in your opinion....

King 12-17-2008 02:46 PM

Nope, pretty positive that's fact. :smokin:

Lazerred6 12-17-2008 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by King (Post 371749)
Nope, pretty positive that's fact. :smokin:

+infinity

Lazerred6 12-17-2008 02:53 PM

That Cobra makes me drool

King 12-17-2008 02:55 PM

I know, me too. That was just a quick google search too "sn95 mustang"...

krenogin 12-17-2008 03:11 PM

Yea, well i know that guy had to be black to like that one. People thought my 20's were 18's but then when i had it parked at college i was far away when i walked twoards it and it did look like a monster truck. Im not even kidding, i couldnt even see the wheels where it was soo shinny. Admit i liked the look but it made my car feel really unstable. i didnt like taking curves sharp or anything. i feel more comfy with my 17s. feels more solid. BUT i have noticed, it is not as good in the rain, with my 20's i could go as fast as i wanted. i didnt feel any hydroplaning.

afterhours 12-17-2008 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 371750)
+infinity

hahaha....sorry still opinion.

Lazerred6 12-17-2008 03:29 PM

NU UH it was + infinity that makes it a fact get a calculator


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