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redfire04 06-03-2009 07:41 PM

Those who have lower control arms
 
After a little bit of searching I didn't really find any good comparisons or user reviews...

I was wondering what you all run and how you like them or don't like them. Right now my car is street use only with only a couple visits to the track a year. The only suspension mods I have are steeda sport springs and tokico hp (blues) shocks/struts. I am also getting some custom subframe connectors welded up this Friday.

Lets hear it!

spike_africa 06-04-2009 07:07 AM

All the boxed lower control arms are the same. Its boxed steel with a poly bushing there is no difference in those styles if you ask me.

I have lakewood lowers in my car and I tossed the quad shocks out. No more wheel hop and car hooks up better.

00blkstanggt 06-04-2009 07:18 AM

I have the Maximum Motorsports ones and they are very nice. Definitely hooks a lot better than without them.

bassman97 06-04-2009 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 411839)
All the boxed lower control arms are the same. Its boxed steel with a poly bushing there is no difference in those styles if you ask me.

I have lakewood lowers in my car and I tossed the quad shocks out. No more wheel hop and car hooks up better.

The difference is bushing design. The problem w/ our cars is that the control arms don't move parallel w/ each other, so you need a bushing design that compensates for this. Hence why companies like MM, Currie, and GW have poly/spherical combos. For me, the MM piece is the best, though the others are good. Unless you plan on not driving the car often on the street or could care less for handling as the strip is your calling, than any boxed control arm w/ poly bushings will do. Though it would cheaper in that case to just put poly bushings in the stock arms and box them.

WNRacing 06-04-2009 08:51 AM

Maximum Motorsports.

01FR500 06-04-2009 09:28 AM

Maximum Motorsports w/ poly bushing at the chassi end and spherical at the axel end. Also with the height adjusting spring perch and swaybar mount. Great pieces with top notch quality.

redfire04 06-04-2009 05:43 PM

Thanks for the reply's guys. I'm thinking that I don't need adjustable lca's...basically MM and the other 2 brands listed above are the only brands that makes a non adjustable with spherical bushings? Also if I went with a set without spherical bushings it's just going to cause a rougher ride?

I just want to make sure I understand correctly.

01FR500 06-04-2009 08:28 PM

A LCA with poly bushing will actually make for a smoother ride, but more bind. Spherical bushings transfer more NVH to through the car but do not cause bind.

bassman97 06-05-2009 06:56 AM

As far as I know, Maximum Motorsports, Currie, and Global West are the only brands that make poly/spherical combos. The Curries are nice though since they use their Johnny Joint which is spherical joint surrounded by polyurethane to reduce NVH. Now, Griggs also sells such combo but their stuff seems more track oriented.

spike_africa 06-05-2009 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 411871)
The difference is bushing design. The problem w/ our cars is that the control arms don't move parallel w/ each other, so you need a bushing design that compensates for this. Hence why companies like MM, Currie, and GW have poly/spherical combos. For me, the MM piece is the best, though the others are good. Unless you plan on not driving the car often on the street or could care less for handling as the strip is your calling, than any boxed control arm w/ poly bushings will do. Though it would cheaper in that case to just put poly bushings in the stock arms and box them.

I totally agree, I'm saying that all the boxed ones with poly bushing are the same though so it doesn't matter who you get those from. Once you get into the more expensive ones that have different bushings and spherical bushing on one side, that's a different story.

bassman97 06-05-2009 04:14 PM

I see, I thought you meant all of them in general. That's my fault for misunderstanding you and I totally agree w/ you on that.

spike_africa 06-06-2009 05:54 AM

I thought thats what happened no problems :).

I'm actully looking into replacing my Lakewood lowers and stock uppers with new ones with poly bushings on the car side and Spherical on the axle side with adjuster uppers so I can set the pinion angle down more for better traction. Problem is funds are very very low and I want them on the car by sometime this summer. I was looking at UPR parts, but lets be honest they have a bad reputation with customer service. The parts have a somewhat solid rep however. I know for a fact I will never put a GMS part on my car ever.

Has anyone seen the awesome quality of GMS parts for our cars?

redfire04 06-11-2009 08:37 PM

Thanks again guys after looking into this some more and learning more about lca's I think I'm just going to get a set with poly bushings. I'll probably try out the lakewoods.

01FR500 06-12-2009 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 412190)
I thought thats what happened no problems :).

......I know for a fact I will never put a GMS part on my car ever.

Has anyone seen the awesome quality of GMS parts for our cars?

It is amazing. And not for a good reason. I swear in either the Summit or Jegs catalog they have a GMS section and they have pictures of Maximum Motorsports parts for GMS.

spike_africa 06-12-2009 08:42 AM

I have seen photos of their control arms broken in half and bent in half. And most of those are just from street cars and daily drivers. They make some junk parts. There is a huge thread on modulardepot.com about their shitty products.

bassman97 06-12-2009 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by redfire04 (Post 413431)
Thanks again guys after looking into this some more and learning more about lca's I think I'm just going to get a set with poly bushings. I'll probably try out the lakewoods.

Just don't go crazy in terms of street driving. Those arms will cause binding during body roll and on uneven road surfaces.

Black Sunshine 06-12-2009 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 413512)
I have seen photos of their control arms broken in half and bent in half. And most of those are just from street cars and daily drivers. They make some junk parts. There is a huge thread on modulardepot.com about their shitty products.

I was curious and looked that up and their parts are really shitty looking. I was even more amazed that the Granatelli vendor's responses. What an asshole! He kept denying that the parts were even his and kept blaming the failures of the parts on other things even after denying responsibility for the parts. I would never buy anything from them. It looks like pure shit.

bassman97 06-12-2009 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by 01FR500 (Post 413511)
It is amazing. And not for a good reason. I swear in either the Summit or Jegs catalog they have a GMS section and they have pictures of Maximum Motorsports parts for GMS.

That's because GMS are cheap copies of MM parts. They look the same, just minus the quality.

01FR500 06-12-2009 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 413644)
That's because GMS are cheap copies of MM parts. They look the same, just minus the quality.

Yeah, but even more so, not even the poly bushing color was different. And the swaybar mount had the bent ends to provide stiffness IIRC, I didn't think GMS did that on thier LCAs.

redfire04 06-12-2009 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 413528)
Just don't go crazy in terms of street driving. Those arms will cause binding during body roll and on uneven road surfaces.

Thanks for the warning...for the type of driving I do I think these will be just fine. I don't drive in any style that would cause much body roll basically regular day to day driving with a very occasional hard launch.

01FR500 06-13-2009 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by redfire04 (Post 413680)
Thanks for the warning...for the type of driving I do I think these will be just fine. I don't drive in any style that would cause much body roll basically regular day to day driving with a very occasional hard launch.

Even that can ruin some GMS parts. Its a roll of the dice everything you drive if you have GMS parts.

redfire04 06-13-2009 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by 01FR500 (Post 413768)
Even that can ruin some GMS parts. Its a roll of the dice everything you drive if you have GMS parts.

I'm not going with GMS...I'll probably be going with Lakewood.


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