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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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My car spun around at 60MPH on freeway two days ago, the car hit the snow wall, and it's now in the shop... I had that original Pirelli PZero tires on when the accident happened, now I know I can use those tires in winter. I'm thinking of buying studless snow tires, my car is the V6 /w Pony Pkg, P235/55/ZR17 is the size.

I have never used snow tires before, because all my previous cars are FWD and all season tires were enough.

1.) Can anyone help me choose the best studless snow tires for that size?
2.) I'm wondering when am I supposed to switch out the snow tires and put the norm all season tires back?
3.) Or what if I still use the snow tires in summer, can the snow tires stand summer heat?


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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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snow tires definitely cannot be used during the summer. they are made to be used in situations where there is heavy moisture so you will get better traction during those situations. you gotta be extra careful driving a RWD car in the snow, especially when you've only driven FWD in the past. this is my first winter with mine and i am still getting used to it, but i'm a hell of a lot better now than i was the first day we had snow.

i'm using some dunlop grispecs on my v6, cant remember the exact size on em, but its a 2002 so it may be different. check out www.tirerack.com and see what they have, thats where i got my tires. might even try calling them, their sales people are awesome and have a lot of good advice. good luck and be careful!
 
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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i'm using some dunlop grispecs on my v6,
Are they snow tires? So when are you planning to switch back to norm all-season tires again?
 
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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i have all season tires on my stang 275x40x17 all around they work great in the snow and rain (they cost a lot of money but you get what you pay for). You just have to be a lot more careful no matter what kind of tires you are using when the road conditions suck with the stang.
 
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Are they snow tires? So when are you planning to switch back to norm all-season tires again?
yes, the Dunlops are made for winter only. if you check out tirerack.com they have a section for winter tires and they have the snow traction ratings and whatnot. i dont have all season tires for my mustang, the other tires i drive on are more of a summer-only tire that is much better in dry conditions. probably wont put them back on until late march/april as the weather here in chicago tends to be unpredictable
 
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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I bought Dunlop winter Sport M3. Great winter PERFORMANCE tire. Not just a studless winter tire, but a performance winter tire.

Gets great reviews, I LOVE them, are EXCELLENT in rain and snow.

down side?? Price, but you get what you pay for.

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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by whitethunder46
I bought Dunlop winter Sport M3. Great winter PERFORMANCE tire. Not just a studless winter tire, but a performance winter tire.

Gets great reviews, I LOVE them, are EXCELLENT in rain and snow.

down side?? Price, but you get what you pay for.

What about when it's not raining/snowing? Are they good on normal whether? When are you planning to switch back to non-winter tires again?
 
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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honestly, i would never drive a mustang, or any other RWD, without a good set of winter tires. the day mine got delivered was the same day we also got 2 feet of snow dumped on us. that night i drove to go get them put on and i almost wrecked my car and i never went more than 20mph. that was with my Kumhos on, it sucked, never had any traction. heres a pic of the Graspic DS-2s i have now

 
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What about when it's not raining/snowing? Are they good on normal whether? When are you planning to switch back to non-winter tires again?
great tire all around even in normal driving conditions. Good grip on dry roads (actually better than my 80% worn 245/40/18 summer performance tires)
 
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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I drove my wife's 06 V6 through the snow and Ice for a week with the stock Pirellis with hardly no problem's.I thought they did an ok job for as bad as it was here.
 
Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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Damn u spun oout with PZero's? honestly, I don't think that has anything to do with the tire tread, but more with the tire width. I have PZeros and I don't have a whole lot of problems, they do well in all weather, and have great wet traction. Maybe an upgrade to 18x10 inch rims would help, certainly helped my traction problems.
 
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Damn u spun oout with PZero's? honestly, I don't think that has anything to do with the tire tread, but more with the tire width. I have PZeros and I don't have a whole lot of problems, they do well in all weather, and have great wet traction. Maybe an upgrade to 18x10 inch rims would help, certainly helped my traction problems.
When the accident happened, I had the whatever the factory put on, it's P235/55ZR17, Pirelli PZero. I was driving at 60MPH, and the car just spun. Maybe I was driving too fast? Everyone says I was driving too fast, but the speed limit there is 70MPH.

I definitely don't want to buy snow tires, because the car is in the shop right now. Once I get my car back, it would be early Feburary. How long do you think before I need to switch the tires out? I'm thinking of buying Dunlop SP Winter Sport M3. If I don't switch it out and continue to use it in summer, will it worsen the handling?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....nSpeedRating=T

By the way, this is the aftermath. The insurance people took the pic.
 
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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Well where do you live? If you aren't getting the car back until Feb., I'd just take it easy through Feb. and the little of March when/if it snows. Just be more careful on the factory tires.

Wait until next winter if you get winter tires.
 
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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The first year I had my mustang I hit a traffic light poll, due to snow & ice. I had all-seasons on it.

Last year I had studded snow tires, but I slid all over the place, through counter-steering and driving slow I managed to avoid accidents.

This is my third year with my mustang, and the thing I have honestly found that works best is putting weight in the trunk. I haven't slid almost at all, and absolutely no more than my former FWD car.

My suggestion is to have decent all seasons on the back, high-quality winter or all seasons on the front with excellent tread and put 240lbs of concrete in the trunk. This is cheaper than sand, at least at Lowe's or Home Depot. I believe I paid $16 for four 60lb. bags.

Since doing this, the car drives as well as my FWD vehicles, I have no complaints at all. I am still careful, as anyone should be no matter what type of vehicle you have.

Just my 2 cents... :P
 
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pirasea
The first year I had my mustang I hit a traffic light poll, due to snow & ice. I had all-seasons on it.

Last year I had studded snow tires, but I slid all over the place, through counter-steering and driving slow I managed to avoid accidents.

This is my third year with my mustang, and the thing I have honestly found that works best is putting weight in the trunk. I haven't slid almost at all, and absolutely no more than my former FWD car.

My suggestion is to have decent all seasons on the back, high-quality winter or all seasons on the front with excellent tread and put 240lbs of concrete in the trunk. This is cheaper than sand, at least at Lowe's or Home Depot. I believe I paid $16 for four 60lb. bags.

Since doing this, the car drives as well as my FWD vehicles, I have no complaints at all. I am still careful, as anyone should be no matter what type of vehicle you have.

Just my 2 cents... :P
Thats very true about the weights in the trunk. I used to always throw in 2 60 lb bags of rocks in my trunk during the winter and that helped alot. Other then that, slow down man, rear wheel drive cars handle vary differently then imports, it's alot more finesse.
 
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Where can I get a bag of sand?
 
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Where can I get a bag of sand?
any hardware store like The Home Depot
 
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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any hardware store like The Home Depot

Really? What do I ask them? "Do you have any sand bags"? Will the sand spill out easily?
 
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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there is usually a fairly big section during the winter season for "automotive sand bags". Sometimes they have small rips just check the bags you buy otherwise no they do not spill. (I got mine at Menards so I know they have them for sure)
 
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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there is usually a fairly big section during the winter season for "automotive sand bags".
Automotive sand bags? Wow! So if it's specifically made for cars, that means there is needs for this. So what sort of cars usually need such sand bags? RWD cars?

Have you used sand bags on your mustang before? With the sand bags, do you think I can continue drive it with the stock Pirelli PZero Nero tires on?
 
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Automotive sand bags? Wow! So if it's specifically made for cars, that means there is needs for this. So what sort of cars usually need such sand bags? RWD cars?

Have you used sand bags on your mustang before? With the sand bags, do you think I can continue drive it with the stock Pirelli PZero Nero tires on?
your traction will be better to an extent. It will weigh down the back tires so the back doesn't kick up and spin the tires as easily. It's always worth a try there not that expensive if it doesn't help you as much as you like then look into snow tires for next winter
 
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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id get what they call "tube sand", its in the contractors section at home depot. it comes in a flexible tube package which is more sturdy than some of the heavy paper bags that some of the sand bags are packaged in. the shape of these packages also make it easier to position the weight over the rear axle which is really where it needs to be, not just anywhere in the trunk.

dont plan any big trips to the grocery store with your 'stang this winter, you wont have a whole lot of room in the back with the sand bags
 
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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For what?.....
 
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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get some cheap steel wheels and blizzaks. Throw a bag or tow of sand in and you'll be fine. I think Tirerack sells packages. The other alternative is a winter vehicle (keep miles down on stang). Lots of folks have ratted out hondas and such. I prefer the 4wd pickup truck as a winter vehicle, it pulls double duty as I remodel the house (or car) and need to haul stuff. You can usually find a decent used Ford pickup between $7-10K.
 
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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yep, a winter beater is what you REALLY need. i eventually want to get a truck for the winter months, especially if im gonna lower my car. with the amount of snow that we get in chicago, im honestly afraid to lower my car. i really dont want to get stuck every time i leave the house
 
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by doobie
yep, a winter beater is what you REALLY need. i eventually want to get a truck for the winter months, especially if im gonna lower my car. with the amount of snow that we get in chicago, im honestly afraid to lower my car. i really dont want to get stuck every time i leave the house
It's not fun trying to drive a lowered mustang in snow. It doesnt snow as much here in Pa has in Chicago but we get enough, so I ended up buying a Escape that I use in the winter and whenever it rains.
 
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For my 2006, bought cheap aluminum rims at Sears for $80.00ea and 4 new Blizzaks at local tire dealer. Took all to local front end/ race shop to mount and balance. I loaded up the back end with 4 bags of Morton Salt from the grocery store[160lbs. When Spring came, the 4 bags of salt go into the water softner.
4 inches of snow on the interstate and still snowing, traveling at 45-50 is no problem. 8 inches of snow on the county roads, my wheel combination cannot be beat. I have stock 16 inch wheels. Happy motoring
 
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