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ace1_15 09-18-2006 08:18 PM

Best Wax For Black Cars
 
We all know that black cars are the dirtiest. My 1998 Black Gt has gone throught many waxs and im trying to see which one will restore my paint the best and give it a long wash after wash shine. I hate black cars even though when they are clean they LOOK THE BEST!!!!! Ive tried Meguairs 3 stage and meguairs gold and they both come off easily after the first wash and only shine for a little while.!!! I LIVE IN SUNNY CALI PLEASE HELP

Jack The Ripper 09-18-2006 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by ace1_15
We all know that black cars are the dirtiest. My 1998 Black Gt has gone throught many waxs and im trying to see which one will restore my paint the best and give it a long wash after wash shine. I hate black cars even though when they are clean they LOOK THE BEST!!!!! Ive tried Meguairs 3 stage and meguairs gold and they both come off easily after the first wash and only shine for a little while.!!! I LIVE IN SUNNY CALI PLEASE HELP

Sorry, i use meguires gold class. I think it really does look the best for the price.

Ive use turtlewax black every 3rd wax, seems to keep the black a bit richer. but doesent shine as well. Some people have had excellent luck with Zymol.

Welp, you got the best color of mustang period. Unfortunatly it comes with a price.

https://mustangboards.com/mustang/pi...m/HPIM0377.jpg

03gtmustang 09-19-2006 07:41 AM

If you want something to last long then you need to use a sealer. You need to apply the sealer differently then you would a Carnauba wax. Use your polish/ swirl remover to get the swirl marks out. Then dont put on any kind of Carnauba wax/ glaze. After using the polishes, wash the car and apply the sealer. Let it settle for 24 hours then apply the Carnauba wax to give it that shine. Reapply the Carnauba wax every 2 months or so. The best Carnauba wax for black cars is Souveran. Other good brands are DP Max Wax, Natty's Blue, and Pinnacle Series II.

anavrin0901 09-19-2006 10:23 AM

The people at Griot's Garage make some fine products too!

www.griotsgarage.com

Rabbit 09-19-2006 11:12 AM

I used Meguiars Cleaner Wax last weekend, did a great job. My paint was faded as shiot...now nice and glossy!

red281gt 09-19-2006 11:32 AM

use some klasse all-in-one polish then wait 8 hours then put klasse glaze on it and let it sit on the car for a while then buff out

03gtmustang 09-19-2006 11:42 AM

Klasse is a good product, make good sealers. DP also came out with a new sealer which has gotten good reviews. Then you also have Poorboys EX-P and Meguairs.

Might want to read some of this stuff...
http://www.autogeek.net/car-wax-detailing.html
http://www.autogeek.net/qude101.html

Lances03SVT 09-19-2006 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by anavrin0901
The people at Griot's Garage make some fine products too!

www.griotsgarage.com

Hell yes they do.The Speed Shine is the best stuff I've ever used.

todd03blown 09-19-2006 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by 03gtmustang
If you want something to last long then you need to use a sealer. You need to apply the sealer differently then you would a Carnauba wax. Use your polish/ swirl remover to get the swirl marks out. Then dont put on any kind of Carnauba wax/ glaze. After using the polishes, wash the car and apply the sealer. Let it settle for 24 hours then apply the Carnauba wax to give it that shine. Reapply the Carnauba wax every 2 months or so. The best Carnauba wax for black cars is Souveran. Other good brands are DP Max Wax, Natty's Blue, and Pinnacle Series II.

Just an FYI - you can put on glazes before you put on your sealant. I just RMG (red moose maching glaze or wolfgang glaze) before putting on my Meguiars #21 sealant on my black focus and the results are awesome.

todd03blown 09-19-2006 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ace1_15
We all know that black cars are the dirtiest. My 1998 Black Gt has gone throught many waxs and im trying to see which one will restore my paint the best and give it a long wash after wash shine. I hate black cars even though when they are clean they LOOK THE BEST!!!!! Ive tried Meguairs 3 stage and meguairs gold and they both come off easily after the first wash and only shine for a little while.!!! I LIVE IN SUNNY CALI PLEASE HELP

First keep in my your prep work will dictate the end result of the LSP (last step product AKA Wax) that you use. you need to evaluate your finish and see what level of swirls, scratches, micro marring etc you have. First step is to use a clay bar as that removes all the contaminants that are embedded in your paints surface. then you need to either use some form of a cleaner, compound or polish to remove or lessen the visual impact of your scratches, swirls, oxidation, surface imperfections etc. After using this abrasive type product you then need to use a polish of some kind to bring back the pop in the paint and also remove swirls and light imperfections (marring) left over from the previous step. Next its time for a glaze to add some depth to your black paint, now since you car appears to be a daily driver I would suggest using a sealant of some kind to help project it while it sits outside in the elements. LSP could be Clearkote carnuba moose, pinnacle souveran (paste carnuba), meguiars or nattys.


To answer your question regarding what is the best wax for black paint my personal opinion would be Pinnacle Souveran (about $70 for the little container) but this stuff does just amazing things to black paint. Below are some pictures of my car after using Pinnacle Souveran and the LSP and Menzerna Products as the other steps including claying the car. Hope this helps out.

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This image shows no marring or any surface imperfections:
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Great clarity:
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Just awesome:
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todd03blown 09-19-2006 04:08 PM

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Look how wet the paint looks (over top of the rear wheel) in this photo:
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Stan 09-19-2006 04:22 PM

any meguiars product meguiars ftw!

03gtmustang 09-19-2006 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by todd03blown
Just an FYI - you can put on glazes before you put on your sealant. I just RMG (red moose maching glaze or wolfgang glaze) before putting on my Meguiars #21 sealant on my black focus and the results are awesome.

You ARE NOT supposed to put glazes or waxes under a sealer. MOST glazes have Carnauba in them which causes bonding problems with the sealer. You should also rewash the car with regular car shampoo, or wipe it down with an alcohol mixture after using the polish/ before applying the sealer to get rid of any oils left over by the polishes. Then you need to let the sealer settle for ~24 hours before applying anything over it. After the 24 hours, you can apply your glaze and wax. Go ahead and ask Mike about it...

Lances03SVT 10-14-2006 05:54 PM

I just tried some of the Turtle wax ICE on my hood today and DAMN that is some cool stuff.I'm going to do the rest of the car tommorow and see how it goes.Very easy to apply and remove and left it smooth and reflective as hell.

Lances03SVT 10-14-2006 05:55 PM

Hey Todd my hood came out looking as good as your's with the ICE :)

red281gt 10-16-2006 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Lances03SVT (Post 213927)
Hey Todd my hood came out looking as good as your's with the ICE :)

nopicnocare:dunno:

Lances03SVT 10-16-2006 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by red281gt (Post 214487)
nopicnocare:dunno:

If it was'nt raining now I would take some :(

red281gt 10-16-2006 11:52 AM

Yeah rain sucks

todd03blown 10-16-2006 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by Lances03SVT (Post 213927)
Hey Todd my hood came out looking as good as your's with the ICE :)

sweeet...I have never tried that wax; still only use the souveran pinnacle:topsecret:

03gtmustang 10-16-2006 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by todd03blown (Post 214769)
sweeet...I have never tried that wax; still only use the souveran pinnacle:topsecret:

I want to try some of that stuff so bad.

todd03blown 10-18-2006 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by 03gtmustang (Post 214780)
I want to try some of that stuff so bad.

I love it!! The smell is like no other and so are the results :D

blackstang00 10-23-2006 10:30 AM

Has anyone tried Nanowax. I'm not sure but after I used it I started noticing minute scratches on the hood. There aren't any scratches on the body. So I'm not sure if it was the wax or a cheap paint job to sell the car. I just bought it on 9/11/06. And by the way it's my first Mustang.

03gtmustang 10-23-2006 12:04 PM

Never heard of it, the car was cleaned and washed right before applying it correct? Did you apply it indoors or out, what did you use to apply it, and what did you use to remove it?

blackstang00 10-23-2006 04:53 PM

Yeah it was wash real good before applying the wax. I used the sponge that was included in the package to put it on. I used the micro fiber that was included to remove it. It was applied outside in cool weather as per instructions. The car was also cooled off.

03gtmustang 10-23-2006 06:08 PM

Maybe its just bad wax?

smg32208 10-23-2006 06:42 PM

meguires #27 works pretty good

03gtmustang 10-23-2006 06:56 PM

Try rubbing it in for a little longer.

blackstang00 10-24-2006 11:49 AM

OK Thanks I'm going to get some pinnacle wax next. I heard it even smells good. Nanowax is made by Eagle One.
:topsecret:

blackstang00 10-24-2006 01:47 PM

Todd03blown That is one hell of a shine. The car looks awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah I noticed that a few of the spots that I thought were scratches wiped off a couple of days later. I'm disabled so it's hard for me to rub off the polish as good as I want. I'm going to get a buffer for my cordlees drill.

todd03blown 10-24-2006 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by blackstang00 (Post 216923)
Todd03blown That is one hell of a shine. The car looks awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah I noticed that a few of the spots that I thought were scratches wiped off a couple of days later. I'm disabled so it's hard for me to rub off the polish as good as I want. I'm going to get a buffer for my cordlees drill.

Thanks Blackstang!!!!


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