supercharger blowing engine twice?
 

Hi all, I am a new member and have a question.
I have an 06 Gt mustang with less than 5000 miles on it. Got a call last night that the engine was blown going 50 miles an hour down the road to get the brand new saleen supercharger dyno tuned on it.

I have read that some dealerships will warrenty a saleen supercharger from saleen if they put the supercharger on at specific dealerships. Anyone know of this? Something about covering any thing that ford wont if something goes wrong. If I get a new engine on this car and decide to get it supercharged, what are the chances of it blowing the engine again?

A professional installed everything on the car and I am being told it was a one and a million that this happened to my car. Now I am thinking if i do the supercharger thing again, maybe taking it to one of these saleen dealerships with the warrenty to do it? Any thoughts ??? I love this car and have already put 10k into it, so its getting expensive at this point.

Andrea

Are they going to replace your motor since they blew it?

Nope the engine is on me, the place doesnt warranty superchargers. We are looking into either replacing the engine or the lower block. Something about a lower block working because the lower half of the engine is blown. Im not mechanically saavy so, Im just trying to play catch up with all of this. I dont have a problem with replacing the engine I just do not want this to happen again. So far the car is going back to stock and seeing what ford says about replacing the engine then go from there.

do you know exactly what "blew up"?

What I have been told is that a rod went threw the block. How fast do you have to be driving to do that? mmm.

id say foul play. Its kinda hard to put a rod through the block isnt it?

Whoever was driving your car was obviously going into boost without the car tuned.Car went lean killed a piston and threw a rod and that killed the motor. Thats what happened.

yup, X's 2, I'd say the shop who did the install is libel

what spike said...what a dumb shop.

WOW! 50 mph with a blower and no tune! that is asking for it to blow! i would drive maybe max of like 25 in 4th...lol

but yea who ever was driving your car to get it dyno tuned...wow they should definatly pay for it.

i cruised around in my car with the blower untuned when i had to smog the car. i drove about 100 miles on freeway and streets. i never went into boost though the engine was always pulling vacuum

whoever was driving your car with the blower untuned at 50 MPH went into boost and you had detonation which resulted with a broken rod going through your block. your going to have to get a new forged short block.

call up modularpowerhouse, MMR, VT. to get a quote for a new short block. this is gonna cost you about 4 grand for the short block 1500 for gaskets, fluids, ARP studs, oil pump, bigger oil pan. than your gonna have labor on top of that.

if i were you i would sue the person who was driving your car at the time it blew up.

no warranty's when it comes to built motors with blowers on them.

I had my car up to 100mph with the blower installed on stock injectors,MAF, and tune:D

If you went to a reputable performance shop, they should man up and rebuild your engine at no cost. They built, they drove it, they blew it, they should cover the cost of rebuilding it. They mechanic I send my cars to warranties all of his work, whether its an engine build or a supercharger install, he warranties his work for 3 yrs / 36k miles. When he does a power adder, he gets a baseline SCT chip from his tuner before he even thinks about putting the car on the road and then drives it like a granny until he gets it to his tuner's shop. If they didn't know what was going to happen, they shouldn't be doing that kind of work. Get a lawyer and good luck. If your looking to get a forged long block or short block, PMP is a great shop to do business with:

http://www.promodularperformance.com/

Talk with Kirk Prewitt, the owner. He's very knowledgeable and extremely helpful and tell him I referred you.

Edit: I had the PMP 4.6 Street Mod 600 short block, with a few upgrades, installed in my GT. I ended going with ARP mainstuds, headstuds and Rod Bolts, Diamond domed pistons, PMP racing oil pump, and the Felpro Extreme Duty Headgaskets.

http://www.promodularperformance.com/1996-2005.htm

Thanks for all the great responses.

What I know, which has been a lot of getting info here and there, is that the car has two different tunes, both made by a great local company. The car drove fine for two days on a commuter tune, but the person who installed the s/c put a new "race" (made by the same company) tune on the car 15 minutes before it blew. Says they were going 50 to 60 mph and the car blew up sending a rod threw the block. A week before when trying to install the s/c they blew the alternator which they had replaced.

This is what I know was on the car at the time

saleen supercharger, steeda intake - 3.0 pulley - belt, 39lb injectors, extreme inlet pipe boosta pump, gapped hto spark plugs line kit. I got two custom tunes for this car from the place.

We also had upgraded the suspension, breaks, shocks, lowered the car, control arms. ect.

I talked to a saleen dealership today that installs s/c and said they think something was wrong with the motor before this happened that it wasnt the s/c.

So far we are thinking it was a problem with the motor before the s/c was put on.

of course they are going to save that and cover there ass...it was a bad tune you went lean for a second and pop.

yeah you should get forged internals now...but at their expense

Thats BS, they blew your engine...

look.. the ONLY way to snap a con rod is to subject it to full out WIDE OPEN THROTTLE boosted driving or to try and spin it to 8000rpm. I tune my car... a RACE tune is for RACE gas, no doing 50 on the street. THey let it run hella lean and felt the 500lbs of tq from the detonating motor and decided to do a 2nd gear drop and floor it. Well it smoked the motor. Yes a bottom end replacement will do the trick if the heads are fine.

Your tuner needs to be sued. THat's flat ass negligence. I know when I drive a modded car to stay out of the gas until it's tuned and known to be safe, blowers are the reason for that rule.

I'd expect the tuner to pay for the motor, pony up for a good tuner to tune your car and pay for you to get a 20 minute hum-job on your next trip to nevada.

DO NOT LET YOURSELF GET BONED. I'll talk to your tuner and tell him what's what. Imagine what happens when you start picketing the shop so they'll do your car right after THEY blew it up.

yep, sooo i figure i'd better throw in my 2cents...tuner sucks...shop sucks....boycott both and go to an authorized dealership or a reputable place.

I am pretty much in agreement with all comments this far, so I won't repeat what everyone is saying. But, I will ask if they performed a compression check on the motor first?

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my post got goofed, lol. Im didnt hear anyone mention compression check on the engine, but that doesnt mean they didnt do one either. So Im not really sure. We are going to have a reputable place remove the s/c and are talking to them tomorrow about picking up the car to get started on it. Ive heard nothing but great things about this shop.

What shop was it?

Two things then:

#1 - I would never allow anyone to drive my car after putting a blower on it w/o a tune PERIOD. Tow trucks are cheap...motors are not.

#2 - I would never allow a blower to be installed w/o a compression check first to check the health of the motor. This should be done for the peace of mind of the owner and for protection of the shop.

While there are no guarentees, these are two cheap ways to minimize your risk.

i think i'd have to open up a can o' whoop ass on the shop that did the install.

5K miles on a brand new mustang, the shop installs an S/C, and they blow your motor, while "they" are driving it.

sounds like it's time to call an attorney, and get a lawsuit to recover damages for a new motor, plus court costs, and attorneys fees.

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