Post Presidential Debate #1 -- Who will you vote for?
Unfortunately I was working last night during the first Presidential Debate of the You Choose '08 Presidential Campaign. I've heard from several people that McCain bombed, and Obama stole a lot of voters.
So I'm curious. After watching the first Presidential Debate, who are you leaning towards voting for on Nov. 4th? |
Obama owned him. I did like McCains joke about Obama not being able to reach when hes so far to the left. Even Obama laughed at that one.
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i think they both brought up interesting points and solutions but they both bickered like little girls. I thought it was very annoying. The only thing i really liked was that Obama was able to agree with some of the things McCain brought up but also make a counter argument at the same time. I did not like how every time Obama made a comment or solution that McCain didn't like he felt as if he had to bash him and prove him wrong with his frequent statements that he as been to this many foreign countries. I don't give a rats ass about how many fawking countries he has been to. I would of rather had McCain try to be an adult about his disagreements. My vote is with Obama because of his attitude and i want a president that is going to bring in new ideas and new ways to solve our countries crisis's.
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I still don't like either one of them. I watched a little I was out to dinner so I missed a lot of the financial debate (only thing i was interested in) which I heard Obama didn't know crap about (which I already knew the man hasn't done a thing in IL for the life of him). Then when I got back they were mostly talking about the War. Also Afghanistan and Pakistan which I honestly don't give a **** about them. The financial problem is much more of an issue IMO than those idiots running around in their caves
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Originally Posted by King
(Post 354445)
Unfortunately I was working last night during the first Presidential Debate of the You Choose '08 Presidential Campaign. I've heard from several people that McCain bombed, and Obama stole a lot of voters.
So I'm curious. After watching the first Presidential Debate, who are you leaning towards voting for on Nov. 4th?
Originally Posted by Steeda97
(Post 354449)
Obama owned him. I did like McCains joke about Obama not being able to reach when hes so far to the left. Even Obama laughed at that one.
I'm sorry that Obama fanboys are so weak minded that they have to listen to the media, but maybe you should actually watch the debate and make your OWN judgements. It's pretty simple, neither McCain or Obama had the "wow" factor that everyone was looking for, but when even Hannity and Colmes (a couple of the most liberal mf'ers on TV) agree that McCain won the debate you know that all of the other liberal, ass faced media dumbasses are doing everything in their power to sway the weak minded to vote for the democratic, socialistic puppet of a candidate. McCain did a good job of pointing out that Obama has no experience and did it repeatidly. The bottom line in my mind is that if Obama would stop listening to all of his "advisors" he MAY actually be a good choice, I'd love to see him speak for himself and actually give his own views, but he obviously is not capable of doing that. My summary of the debate: The entire ordeal was pretty poorly executed. Obama, several times was extremely disrespectful of the debate, cutting off both the questioner and John McCain. John definitely should have given a better description of his plans for the "bailout" but all-in-all I feel like he did a good job of letting the Country know where he stands on the real issues. I'll give it to Obama, he is a good speaker, he just needs to learn respect and speak his own mind. I personally feel that there was no clear cut "winner" but I'd have to say that McCain was much more solid with his views and you didn't see much of a sway in his opinions like you did in Obama's. Can't wait for the Palin/ Biden debate. Biden has already stuffed his foot so far into his mouth that it's going to be funny to see Sarah squash him like a bug. |
i say we bring Ronald Reagan back to life or another president that had some balls
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You know, you really make McCain supporters look like idiots. He agreed with certain things that McCain said and why shouldnt he? They can't be total opposites. Jim wanted them to talk to eachother and debate among one another. Obama tried but McCain wouldn't even look at him. McCain has absolutely no argument other than Obama has no experience but what the hell has McCain done but follow Bush' policies? Hes a joke. And you say Obama follows all his advisors? Wheres your proof?
How about McCains campaign if he didn't have Washington lobbyists paying for all of it? How would he be doing? You don't know me, and for you to judge EVERY Obama supporter calling them weak-minded is really retarded. But it doesn't really bother me because i'm not surprised. You have absolutely no credibility so your opinion doesn't mean shit. You are obviously middle class. How could you support him? Do you have a good healthcare plan? How much do you pay for it? You my friend are a joke. |
Originally Posted by Steeda21
(Post 354488)
i say we bring Ronald Reagan back to life or another president that had some balls
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Originally Posted by WNRacing
(Post 354487)
You two are CRAZY!
Anyway, my personal opinion on both candidates is that neither McCain nor Obama is ready for the role, and they both have some really extreme plans. So it's really down to a vote for the lesser of evils, and no matter what, you're still voting for evil. |
Originally Posted by Steeda97
(Post 354489)
You know, you really make McCain supporters look like idiots. He agreed with certain things that McCain said and why shouldnt he? They can't be total opposites. Jim wanted them to talk to eachother and debate among one another. Obama tried but McCain wouldn't even look at him. McCain has absolutely no argument other than Obama has no experience but what the hell has McCain done but follow Bush' policies? Hes a joke. And you say Obama follows all his advisors? Wheres your proof?
How about McCains campaign if he didn't have Washington lobbyists paying for all of it? How would he be doing? You don't know me, and for you to judge EVERY Obama supporter calling them weak-minded is really retarded. But it doesn't really bother me because i'm not surprised. You have absolutely no credibility so your opinion doesn't mean shit. You are obviously middle class. How could you support him? Do you have a good healthcare plan? How much do you pay for it? You my friend are a joke. How can I support McCain? Because he doesn't propose a $4,400 tax hike on my income. I work VERY hard for my fucking money and I want it to stay in my pocket. Because he is a veteran that supports this country and doesn't have a fucking bitch of a wife that says "she is finally proud of this great country for the first time." And, yes I do have a great comprehensive healthcare plan that costs me about $120/mo. |
Originally Posted by King
(Post 354493)
Whoa! Chill, dude. I just said that's what I heard. I was working lastnight, and that is what my brother who is an Obama supporter. In all honesty, I could really care less about who wins a debate. I'm selling my presidential vote on Ebay starting maybe the end of next week, so this presidential debate doesn't mean anything to me or my vote. That, my friend will be auctioned off to the highest bidder.
Anyway, my personal opinion on both candidates is that neither McCain nor Obama is ready for the role, and they both have some really extreme plans. So it's really down to a vote for the lesser of evils, and no matter what, you're still voting for evil. Dude, I really have no problem with anyone expressing their views at all. Steeda is just blinded by all of the celebrity surrounding Obama like all of his other supporters. I'm sorry, but with Lindsay Lohan wanting to "endorse" Obama, it just solidifies in my mind that I don't need him as a president.. lol |
Hey Evan
Obama > Mccain. its ok to admit it. lol |
Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper
(Post 354502)
Hey Evan
Obama > Mccain. its ok to admit it. lol Not according to the polls..... :D :rolleyes: Ha! I mean, I'm all for equality, I'm all for giving any man/woman/black.white/blue or purple a chance and I'd like to see the True Obama speak. Instead of the book material that is fed to him. I think that he may have some good views on SOME things, but the tax increase is definitel NOT one of them.. |
Originally Posted by WNRacing
(Post 354506)
Hey Chris,
Not according to the polls..... :D :rolleyes: Ha! I mean, I'm all for equality, I'm all for giving any man/woman/black.white/blue or purple a chance and I'd like to see the True Obama speak. Instead of the book material that is fed to him. I think that he may have some good views on SOME things, but the tax increase is definitel NOT one of them.. |
Originally Posted by King
(Post 354510)
You forgot to mention rednecks and asains, you bastard! lol
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I thout that Obama supports tax breaks for the people while mccain supprorts tax breaks for the companys who outsource jobs overseas?
what happened to that? i havent been paying attention |
Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper
(Post 354518)
I thout that Obama supports tax breaks for the people while mccain supprorts tax breaks for the companys who outsource jobs overseas?
what happened to that? i havent been paying attention |
WN you have absolutely nothing to back up what you say. Your right, im blinded by the celebrity along with half the country. What makes you think I'M blinded by the celebrity? Do you know me? Absolutely not. Do you understand politics, and what is going on right now? Absolutely not.
McCain gives tax cuts to the wealthy, and screws the middle class. Don't you know this? CNN poll results: Who did the best job tonight? (at the debate) Barack: 51 McCain: 38 Who would better handle Iraq? Barack: 52 McCain: 47 Who would better handle the economy? Barack: 58 McCain: 37 |
Originally Posted by Steeda97
(Post 354523)
CNN poll results: Who did the best job tonight? (at the debate) Barack: 51 McCain: 38 Who would better handle Iraq? Barack: 52 McCain: 47 Who would better handle the economy? Barack: 58 McCain: 37 |
The media will always favor the Democrats it has always been like that and will continue to be.
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Well I never get to chime in and voice my opinion without certain people jumping down my throat over it. Its ridiculous how opinionated, and stubborn some people can be. We'll see in November. To be honest, the government is going to rip all of us the fuck off regardless.
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Originally Posted by Steeda97
(Post 354539)
Well I never get to chime in and voice my opinion without certain people jumping down my throat over it. Its ridiculous how opinionated, and stubborn some people can be. We'll see in November. To be honest, the government is going to rip all of us the fuck off regardless.
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haha. ghey.
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Originally Posted by Steeda97
(Post 354539)
Well I never get to chime in and voice my opinion without certain people jumping down my throat over it. Its ridiculous how opinionated, and stubborn some people can be. We'll see in November. To be honest, the government is going to rip all of us the fuck off regardless.
I'm curious, when you talk about McCain's funding... Where has Obama gotten his money? No one knows. hmm.. Think about that before you talk on that subject. I don't personally have any problem with you Steeda, I just think that you should take a moment to read and digest before you start spitting garbage. |
Originally Posted by Steeda97
(Post 354523)
WN you have absolutely nothing to back up what you say. Your right, im blinded by the celebrity along with half the country. What makes you think I'M blinded by the celebrity? Do you know me? Absolutely not. Do you understand politics, and what is going on right now? Absolutely not.
McCain gives tax cuts to the wealthy, and screws the middle class. Don't you know this? http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2..._tax_hikes.jpg http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...bamaImage2.jpg |
Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper
(Post 354518)
I thout that Obama supports tax breaks for the people while mccain supprorts tax breaks for the companys who outsource jobs overseas?
what happened to that? i havent been paying attention The adds leave that fact out |
Originally Posted by WNRacing
(Post 354554)
Steeda, you seriously need to go and read the original post again. The only thing that I said (jokingly) was that the two original posts were crazy. As far as your post of CNN results, CNN is the most liberal, democratic-run "news" network on television. Any other website or media outlet (like pcola said) will be totally opposite of CNN. The media is trying to sway everyone to Obama and that is a fact.
I'm curious, when you talk about McCain's funding... Where has Obama gotten his money? No one knows. hmm.. Think about that before you talk on that subject. I don't personally have any problem with you Steeda, I just think that you should take a moment to read and digest before you start spitting garbage. Ordinary citizens making donations. |
Originally Posted by Steeda97
(Post 354562)
Ordinary citizens making donations.
You go ahead and show me that. You know that you can't because you know that your answer is bull, but I'd like to see it anyway. |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17946727/
25 million from 100,000 donors. The campaign asks for donations right on their website. |
Oh, I do believe someone just got owned.
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