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03_GT 11-12-2007 07:17 PM

Hey cobra guys!
 
pulled this off a thread on a mustang club im in! Tell me this is not insane HP!

The Newest Hellion Turbo System shown at SEMA... Produces 1600HP

Retail would be around $7400.00 (Just For The Kit!)

http://www.hallowen.freehosting.net/...013[1].JPG

Widowmaker[X] 11-12-2007 07:27 PM

May god have mercy on the soul of anyone who buys one of those...

JackThe Ripper 11-12-2007 07:27 PM

I bet that thing would blow a stock cobra engine in seconds. lol...

03_GT 11-12-2007 07:31 PM

lol, yeah, but that is insane, i did not think it was possible!

venom 11-12-2007 08:19 PM

Its awesome but not realistic for a street car.

ClemsonStang 11-13-2007 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by venom (Post 291044)
Its awesome but not realistic for a street car.

why not? with the advances in tuning, itll make 8lbs, and with the press of a button on a tuner, or a laptop, your looking at 25+psi. sounds perfect to me. great thing about turbos is just because they are there, doesnt mean they are being used.

03_GT 11-13-2007 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by ClemsonStang (Post 291105)
why not? with the advances in tuning, itll make 8lbs, and with the press of a button on a tuner, or a laptop, your looking at 25+psi. sounds perfect to me. great thing about turbos is just because they are there, doesnt mean they are being used.

I like the way you think, The guy that is in our club he is thing about getting this setup, His cobra already has 719RWHP,

venom 11-13-2007 06:25 PM

Trying putting that down on street tires. Its not all about HP and who makes the most but who can lay it down on the road.

r3dn3ck 11-13-2007 07:28 PM

wasn't it callaway that tried to do a super and turbo charged vette.... blazing power and totally useless car with really stagey boost. It'd be nice if you could clutch the blower so it only comes on to give boost under 3500rpm and let the turbos blow through it above that. much more efficient.

Mixedbreed02GT 11-13-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper (Post 291038)
I bet that thing would blow a stock cobra engine in seconds. lol...

why would it blow a stock cobra engine in seconds?

03/04 cobra motors were built with forged internals.

a guy in the SVTOA Nashville Club I am in has a red 03 with a Whipple 2.3, and he's running 17 pounds of boost, on his stock 03 cobra motor. Makes 630 rwhp.

r3dn3ck 11-14-2007 08:23 AM

there's a big difference between 1600hp and 600hp. The extra thousand is something of a mean spirited bitch to try and keep contained. You can't use the termy engine as is with any hope of durability after about 700rwhp. Then it's time for better head sealing and more bottom end work, harder bearings, ARP stud kits, blah blah blah blah... = big $

Termy engines are no doubt great strong beasts but just having forged internals doesn't make them bullet proof. Detonation kills forged pistons too...it just takes longer.

yellowstang99 11-14-2007 06:51 PM

I saw this setup on another forum. Hellion says it can work with the factory blower, but from what I've read, the people who have ran it gutted the factory blower, so the blower pretty much becomes an idler pulley, and they just run the twins...So, you think your racing a eaton blown cobra, till you hear the blow off valve's as they whiz by you...

Hellion does make a mean kit. Friend of mine has a hellion twin setup on his 2v 2001 GT, and he just put down 765 at the wheels on a mustang dyno two weeks ago when we were at the shop for dyno day.

TClark22 11-16-2007 08:06 AM

umm hate to burst your bubbles but this works on the stock block...

they have been testing it on an 03/04 cobra...it was making something like 44psi...it has made many passes down the track...but they upped the boost and the heads lifted.

03/04 cobra internals are already forged...

r3dn3ck 11-16-2007 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 291206)
there's a big difference between 1600hp and 600hp. The extra thousand is something of a mean spirited bitch to try and keep contained. You can't use the termy engine as is with any hope of durability after about 700rwhp. Then it's time for better head sealing and more bottom end work, better bearings, ARP stud kits, blah blah blah blah... = big $

Termy engines are no doubt great strong beasts but just having forged internals doesn't make them bullet proof. Detonation kills forged pistons too...it just takes longer.


Originally Posted by TClark22 (Post 291581)
umm hate to burst your bubbles but this works on the stock block...

they have been testing it on an 03/04 cobra...it was making something like 44psi...it has made many passes down the track...but they upped the boost and the heads lifted.

03/04 cobra internals are already forged...

Tclark... gotta read the meat bud. Anther note, it kinda depends on which track you run it as to if it's a really bad idea or just a bad idea. 1/8mile runs are done in just a few seconds by such beasts... 1/4mile runs take a bit longer. You can run a helluva lot of boost for 1-4 seconds but you can't do that same boost for 8 seconds or you'll cross the line with a melted glob.

So I'll repeat: Forged internals don't mean dick. They still break, it just takes longer and they normally bend first, then break.

Badfish 11-16-2007 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 291206)
Detonation kills forged pistons too...it just takes longer.

I can vouch for that :mouthingOFF:

00blkstanggt 11-16-2007 01:52 PM

Yeah I highly doubt a stock cobra can take 1600hp for very long. The horsepower is starting to get really rediculous. It's almost like who cares about driving the car, lets just see how much power we can get and call it a day. Vipers are easily doing like 1500hp now with twin turbo kits and thats just not enough apparently.

r3dn3ck 11-16-2007 01:57 PM

a 400hp/tq car is more than most people can handle day to day. Beyond that you need to add weight or something to bring the street manners back and calm it down. We could all probably make due with 450rwhp so it kinda boggles my head that 600-700 is the new mark to hit for all the joe blow's out there. Why... when 300-400 will break parts and speed limits just as well.

Find your happy spot and shoot for it. I found mine :P


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