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shad0ws 09-25-2005 09:35 PM

What next?...
 
What should I go for next?

VT Stage 2 Cams w/ Comp Cam Springs

or

Accufab Throttlebody and Plenum Combo



WHAT TO DO!?!?

Also, if I did go with the cams, what I need to buy anything else and would I need to adjust anything on my car to get it to run good?

Badfish 09-25-2005 09:46 PM

TB isnt worth money! thats is literally choosing 5 or 50 hp...hmm CAMS get them NOW but rmeber u will need a tune

shad0ws 09-25-2005 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by SpringsStang
TB isnt worth money! thats is literally choosing 5 or 50 hp...hmm CAMS get them NOW but rmeber u will need a tune

How much will a tune cost me?

Badfish 09-25-2005 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by shad0wsGT
How much will a tune cost me?

I have absolultley no idea, ill throw a random estimate that might not be even close..mabey 500 bucks??? it will prolly be in the range of 100 to 1000 dollars lol

shad0ws 09-25-2005 09:58 PM

Haha

Nice gestimate, I'm not even sure we have any places in VA that are any good. I'll probably end up taking it down to True Blue Performance in NC. That will probably cost me an arm and leg. Will I need the tune like as soon as the cams go in or can I still drive it a little but not aggressive?

96TangerineBossGT 09-25-2005 10:01 PM

yeah it obviously depends on who you take it to. Each shop is going to have different rates. I would say that the average to base any figuring off of would be 500-600, depending on whether or not you already a tuner/chip that they can use. If not, then you obviously have to purchase that, along with their service of actually tuning it. Here in NC at the shops I have looked into, it seems to be around 200 for dyno tuning time if you already have a tuner/chip that they can use. If you have to purchase the tuner/chip, it seems to run from like 500-700, based upon application. It would all just depend.

Scott

shad0ws 09-25-2005 10:03 PM

I have the old ass Ford Superchips Handheld Device. I'll probably end up going for the SCT Xcal2 and then take it down to True Blue Performance I guess.

96TangerineBossGT 09-25-2005 10:04 PM

I was looking to take my car to True Blue as well at some point. I am reaching the point to where the mods are going to go beyond my means of doing myself, and they are close by and a SCT dealer, which I have the Xcal2. Just convenient to let them do work and be able to go ahead and tune it too. I haven't heard any negatives about them.

Scott

Badfish 09-25-2005 10:05 PM

with stage 2s it is NOT reccomended that you drive with out a tune, id drive it down there, install it and tune it right there

may be alot fo work, but jeesus you will have a mean sounding, and powerful n/a stang

MattJ 09-25-2005 10:05 PM

Ive seen a lot of places have dyno renting from 75-100 an hour. I doubt that includes tuning though.

shad0ws 09-25-2005 10:06 PM

Oh, well let's see how well I can save money for a couple weeks. And if I can't actually save up then I'll wait until X-mas and use my bonus from work.

2K1TBGT 09-28-2005 01:36 AM

i wouldn't run VT II's on a stock short block
50/50 chance they'll hit(some do, some don't, kinda weird)
my comp 270's modified my pistons for me, lol OUCH!!!

spike_africa 09-28-2005 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by 2K1TBGT
i wouldn't run VT II's on a stock short block
50/50 chance they'll hit(some do, some don't, kinda weird)
my comp 270's modified my pistons for me, lol OUCH!!!

just like the Comp 270's if you do not degree them correctly they will hit.
And you can drive it without a tune to a dyno and dyno it. YOu just might have to kick the idle up so it will idle till you get there.

Samsstang 09-28-2005 09:24 AM

I was debating on camming my car over the winter? just wasnt sure on which cams to use with nitrous set up :confused: especially if I get the two different tunes "N/A and nitrous" Ive herd great things about the VT cams and Comp? on Modulardepot, just not sure? Stage I or IIs ???

What do you all think?

spike_africa 09-28-2005 10:15 AM

any cam that has more intake and exhaust duration will add power with nitrous. basicly a nitrous cam is one that makes the car run good N/a also, although a true nitrous cam to me would be one that favors intake rather then exhaust.

Samsstang 09-28-2005 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by spike_africa
any cam that has more intake and exhaust duration will add power with nitrous. basicly a nitrous cam is one that makes the car run good N/a also, although a true nitrous cam to me would be one that favors intake rather then exhaust.

I agree with you on this Spike, so which ones would you prefer the VT stage I or IIs

spike_africa 09-28-2005 04:45 PM

stage 2's for most power.

stage ones if your worried about going over 450rwhp.

02wt5sp 09-28-2005 05:23 PM


Nice gestimate, I'm not even sure we have any places in VA that are any good. I'll probably end up taking it down to True Blue Performance in NC. That will probably cost me an arm and leg. Will I need the tune like as soon as the cams go in or can I still drive it a little but not aggressive?
What part of VA are you in??? If you anywhere close to the beach then go to Steen Racing. Those guys are really good with cams, and tuning. I got mine tuned with the SCT 4 position chip for $350. I'm gonna get the stage 2 head port and VT stage 2 cams in a few months.

ColoradoStang 09-28-2005 09:10 PM

plus figure in the labor...unless you plan on a major untertaking and having your car out of service for a few days, i wouldn't do it myself....not to mention if you dont have the experience, tools, and know-how on how to properly dial in and install cams

spike_africa 09-29-2005 06:05 AM

it doesnt take a few days to do a cam install more like a few hours. unless i guess you really really go slow. Most get it done in a day. something like 6-8 hours is what i have been seeing. I cant wait ot add a set to mine.

madmatt 09-29-2005 06:05 AM

About the PTV, Ive never actually read that a VT cam has EVER caused a PTV contact problem, even if you dont degree them, but if you show me Id love to see it. (No im not trying to be an ass either, Im just curious) Also, maybe look into their stage 1 cams, they still give amazing gains, and are a little more streetable. They are plenty choppy and youll still see about 20-25 rwhp. Just a thought. Oh, and cams and tb/plenum are not even comparable, they are kinda like mods that work well together, but get the cams first, THEN do the tb/plenum.


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