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r3dn3ck 01-03-2008 09:50 AM

Longtubes for 5.4L swaps coming. Taking a poll.
 
Vote first then join the discussion.

I'm supposed to be heading to Southern California around mid-late January to get a set of longtubes fitted to the 5.4. Those should come to market within a couple months of them being fitted to my car. Desktop Dyno simulations say to expect 40rwhp from the longtubes.

Those of you that won't be getting into an HPS intake should still gain as much as 40hp by switching to longtube headers on your 5.4L 2v. This is the cheapest 40rwhp you can get. I'll post the name of the company that's making the headers as soon as they tell me I'm allowed. Till then feel free to NOT speculate wildly.

Those that do invest in the HPS intake are looking at up to 65rwhp or more gain between the headers and the intake over shorties and adapter plates. Yes there are tq gains too. Suffice it to say the whole power band should get plum nasty with both the headers and the intake in place.

JackThe Ripper 01-03-2008 01:39 PM

Nice..... i want...

Dammit, i talked to the wife and told her that i think im gonna try to do this seeing as how it is a lot less pricey than an s/c.

she said i can do whatever i want to my mustang AFTER i get her a 2001+ Jeep Cherokee.

:flamed:

:eek:

:mad:

cdjnight 01-03-2008 07:27 PM

I said no, because I'm going turbo'd but if I wasn't I would HAVE TOO buy or build long tubes

singlesupra 01-03-2008 09:27 PM

Depending on price, I might be in for a set myself.
R3d, are these going to be able to be installed without removing the engine or?

r3dn3ck 01-04-2008 08:02 AM

You'll need the engine in the car in all probability but you'll need to drop the k-member. It's easy as pie. Support the front of the motor at the crank pulley with a tranny jack or similar device. You may be able to put them in with the k-member in but that's completely unlikely without a tubular k-member.

Price should be dead on with the mid market average for LT's for 4.6 cars.

r3dn3ck 01-04-2008 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by cdjnight (Post 301326)
I said no, because I'm going turbo'd but if I wasn't I would HAVE TOO buy or build long tubes

You'd do really well with a reversed set of FRPP or JBA shorties for your turbo setup. Those would make great starting points for turbo headers.

shakin_bakin 01-05-2008 01:41 PM

i would like a set... but i want it ceramic coated :)
and im dropping my motor in from the bottom i believe... so install shouldnt be a problem then :)

cpthowdy 01-06-2008 08:59 PM

RED, what are you gonna do with smogging.I also wanted to do the longtubes to mine, but since we live in o-so-beautiful california,its not easy!!??

r3dn3ck 01-07-2008 08:14 AM

need to do a hookup. I have a few buddies around here and there and you can usually find one through the local boards. If you're up here with us I'm sure 00blackstanggt and I can possibly help you out finding a place.

myillwillinc 01-07-2008 08:38 AM

if i would have known your plans i ouldn't have started making my own..... PITA for real. kudos to the company making them...

00blkstanggt 01-07-2008 09:30 AM

I got a nice little hookup. Just had my car done with the o/r x and long tubes on the car.

01GTBlown 01-17-2008 09:02 AM

Would they work on a 3v 5.4?

r3dn3ck 01-17-2008 09:26 AM

probably..

bassman97 01-17-2008 11:00 AM

Gotta get new flanges since the 3V bolts up differently (2V bolt hole are slanted while 3V are straight up and down). Plus, I bet there's some dimensional differences. Other than those two things, it's probably a lot easier to modify those vs. your standard 4.6 2V headers.

50Custom 01-17-2008 04:14 PM

Any chance they will make a run in stainless?

r3dn3ck 01-18-2008 07:53 AM

dunno... I'd guess they could make them out of any ol' stock you want. For a price. It's just bending tubes and welding.

copracr 01-18-2008 08:59 PM

What kind of power would a stock motor get? What's the expected price? Ditching my exhaust logs would be killer

r3dn3ck 01-19-2008 07:53 AM

expect +20-30hp to the tires. Price should be about market for mid-grade longtubes... figure 300-500 depending on finish/material.

You can get some BBK longtubes and modify the passenger side if you don't want to wait.

singlesupra 01-19-2008 08:12 PM

Im seriously debating on getting a set of these!

R3d, got a link to the modified BBK's and making them fit?

r3dn3ck 01-20-2008 08:50 AM

no link but it appears that all you have to do is cut the passenger side primaries and shorten them so they don't hit the frame rail. All else theoretically fits.


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