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Is it possible to 450rwhp out of an 04 Cobra with a pulley swap, tune, CAI, and a Catback?? If so.... than good God why am I wasting money on my GT!!!

because your GT is ~ $10,000 cheaper?

Yes, its very possible. SELL YOUR GT NOW!

520 at the wheels is a very realistic number with bolt-ons, tune, and a ported blower.
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at that point you've spent over $30k on the car plus mods, if not more.

with that money ou can buy a used GT for $15k, and put a fully build 2v forged heads cams intake and a freaking turbo kit and spank the doors off that joker with the snake.

true.....but even if its fast its still a GT and not a Cobra, half the fun is the fact that its a cobra

heads- 1500
cams- 600
forged internals- 2000
good intake- 1500 (bullit intake, TB, CAI)
turbo- 6-10K depending if its single or twin
tune-300
= 12000 with a base turbo system + 15000 = 27000 and its a GT

cobra- 21000
pulley- 70-100
intake- 300
exhaust- 1000
tune- 300
= 22700 and you get better suspension and brakes and interior and looks and its a cobra

not true about the suspension...people are actually taking out their IRS and putting in a solid state rear axle...IRS suck for drag racing.

I bought the cobra for the entire image of it. It has a beefy engine, sexy interior, and AMAZING handling. If you looking to get into 350 hp buy yourself a 2003 cobra and call it a day. Unless you like the new body style...then spend 60k and buy a brand new shelby.

i thought he was talking about the power, not the "Image" or whatever the hell that means.

because without a doubt you can build a GT to be far quicker then a cobra. Same thing about v6 vs GT mustangs. My 3000$ car with my 3200$ turbo kit will spank a stock 04 cobra.

But i guess if you want to spend the extra $20k for your "image" then go right ahead, but i like going fast :pepper:


DISCLAIMER: I dont dislike cobras, quite the contrary, i would love to have one oneday, however i am determined to play the devils advocate on this one ;)

I must say... If I owned a Cobra that was puttin' down 520 to the wheels, I pretty much wouldn't fear anything on the road turbo GT's or not

I would fear the c6 z06 vette! much much lighter car...that might be about it though....ha ha ha

there will allways be something faster . . . remember that.

520 anywere near unheard of.

there are v6's out there with more power then that, and everyone knows v6's are slow.

cobra is the same car as a GT - just modded by ford - so its not like its a special car... haha u can make a fake cobra that nobody could tell the differnce in for a few grand - unless they look under the hood:) - but seriously the cobra isnt that fast anyway.... like he said a modded GT - Modded Cobra - all in the 600-1000 rwhp range - it doesnt matter that much - its all in how much you want to spend and ... how much you got!

Throw twin turbos on a cobra and you my friend are DUST. Throw a programmer on that 04 cobra and you're still dust. Throw pretty much anything on that cobra and you're dust.

yea then i forge out and add more boost and he is DUST.

do you want to keep playing this game? or do you get the point.

if you want to go fast, for less money, an '04 cobra is not the paltform, if you want a nice car, that is reliably, and is easy to mod, and get big power reguardless of price, there is nothing better.

Cobra's can NEVA LOSE! Just ask a cobra owner! ha ha ha ha

Lemme put it to you this way. You do the same mods on a cobra and you will get more power. Get this "OMFG MY V6 IS BETTER THAN EVERYTHING" BS out of your little head cuz son you're playing with the big boys now. Ultimately a V8 cobra will spank any V6 out there with the exact same mods. So you got twin turbos...what's your point? You wasted your money....you could have gotten twice the power out of a v8. Have fun in your fantasy world there buddy....

Oh this is going to get good!

WOW its a war now....

I think so...
Teal doesnt think his v6 is the best thing in the world, he knows where it is on the food chain, which, in his case, is very far from the rest of the v6 pack.
And if teal had a v8? sure he would have more power with those mods, but then again so would everyone else? There are a select few out there ballsy enough to TT a v6!

I hear that....we can talk about shoulda...woulda.....coulda....all day long, but all I know is that Teal's v-6 would leave me in the dust! ha ha ha.......yeah, IF i was supercharged it wouldn't happen, but IF IF IF my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle!

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
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someone mentioned better handling from the IRS. That's partially true. Stock vs. stock an IRS will out handle a stick axle any day. IRS is more than useless for drag racing though. They're even kinda dangerous in that application.

As you start modifying the two a live axle will STOMP an IRS at the upper end of the mod spectrum. The mustang IRS was a comprimise and it didn't do a lot of things well.

I've had multiple copies of both the IRS and stock and heavily modded live axle rears. The IRS was way more comfy to drive and nothing ever beat that. Unfortunately to make an IRS race worthy is very expensive and they still kinda suck (mostly due to fragility, weight, rear steer and wheel hop) there. If you slap a well designed panhard bar, torque arm and coil-over suspension on a live axle it'll out turn the IRS hands down. If you maximize the IRS, you'll get marginal gains at best with GOBS more NVH and less comfort.

Cliffs notes: IRS is nice stock but still sucks for racing no matter what. Live axle sucks stock and is best for racing when properly outfitted. I've spent >14K on suspension between the two mustangs, each had an IRS at some point in their life and each has been replaced again back to a live axle. Each was much much faster with the PHB/TA setup than with the IRS.

Now then, enough whining about cobra vs. gt vs. v6. Teal has a bad ass car and nobody in the world can make it any less so because they may have more cylinders or valves. Terminators are called that for a reason, they're killers, hired guns of the automotive world bent on domination of the planet. it worked, they're the baddest factory mustang in history (except for the Boss429 in grabber blue... mmmm gives me wood just thinking about it). Gt's are cars for guys that want to go fast and have a budget. They're a fabulous platform to grow with. V6's are for secretaries and guys with enough smarts and guts to make them really perform. Now quit all this damned idiotic sniveling about who's dumber cuz it's already been shown that the whiners won that battle.

Last edit: Teals first response was the single most intelligent, well written and concise entry in this whole shameful thread. Well played.

wow i was at work and missed this thread but jjtgiants that was the funniest part!

your just pointing out the obvious,

v8, more displacement more cyl, duh its going to make more power then the 6 with the same mods, the point is, going with a v6 over a GT or a GT over a Cobra will yeild more mod money because of the money not spent on the upgraded platform.

its not that V6 + $5k in mods is going to be faster then a V8 +5k in mods.

HOWEVER, a v6 that cost say $10k for the car and add $5k in mods is going to blow the doors off the v8 that spent all 15k on his v8 that dyno's under 300whp :loser:

The only time that the V6 or GT is going to run out of steam is when you start getting to the maximum potential of the car, that being said, you need to look at your goals, do you want 400whp? a v6 can do it without a problem, and cheaper then a cobra, do you want a 1000whp? well a v6 just wont cut it enless you go crazy with it. At that point your going to want that cobra because it is an upgraded platform.


But most guys with mustangs dont ever mod there mustangs that heavy. 400-500whp is going to be the most that manny guys arround want, and most of those guys might not even get it.

Please dont pull that ignorant **** "OMFG v8 can Nevvah LOOOOOSE" bull****. Your going to end up putting your foot into your mouth..

Id like to know what your drive too :dots:

2001 cobra mustang convertible. Got it for 16k.

which makes me notice.. we dont have that many verts around here do we? Disproportional to the production numbers atleast...

verts are slower

more weight, less stiff chasis = bad for speed

w00t! So much wheel hop on verts w/IRS it's really sad.

price difference issues there bud...

a stock cobra + same mods will easily equal more than a stock gt + same mods


there is a reason why the cobra started at 35k ;)