What can I do if I suspect the people living directly below me in my apartament complex is selling drugs, most likely only weed? They are in general nice whenever our paths cross, but I'm getting tired of the random people pulling into the parking lot, waiting around, all that mess. Everyday someone new or a repeat customer is pulling up, knocking on the doors, staying for about five minutes, and leaving. If the guy doesn't answer the door, they call, wait, maybe leave. I've heard someone after knocking on the door, while calling, say "Hey, where you at? Can I get a quarter?" I thought bags of weed were sold in dimes, but hey, I guess they needed a supply. Just today, some new woman, looked like a past meth addict, nervously knocking on the door as I walked down to go to class. A middle-to-old aged white woman generally has no bussiness knocking on a twenty-something year old black guy's door, agreed?

My main complaint is all the random people comming around, I don't like it. I have started parking a farther distance away from the building becuase I don't like these people walking around my car. At least the guys arn't completely thugish or play loud music all the time.

So, tip off the police or what?

 

yeah definitely sounds like drug deals from what you described. i would tip off the cops, just for your own safety.

 

**** yes I would! I would NOT want that kind of **** that close to where I live. Maybe a few years ago before I had my son I would have fealt different about it. Just ask yourself this question. . . . . Are you willing to take a random bullet when they start doing drive bys and such? I had a situation a couple years ago when I was at Burger King with my then 3 y/o son. I was sitting there eating with him and I look outside at a BK employee talking with another guy who did not appear to be an employee. I see the non employee guy pass off a zip lock sandwich bag FULL of weed to the employee of BK. My first thought was look at these IDIOTS!. Anyway, the more I though about it the more it pissed me off. I was there with my son and there were like 5 other kids present too. Well I took my problem to the manager, and told her she should be glad I'm not calling the cops and the loccal news to this place. Ok to try move with my story. . . . . . I was at work the next day and told my coworkers about the whole deal (2 of em were black guys). The 2 black guys told me that was stupid for doing that cause as they said, SNITCHES GET STICHES. I went off on them. I told them that if THEY wanted to turn their head and pretend they don't see **** then they shouldn't wonder why their neighborhood has the crime rate and dive bys that my neighborhood don't have. I told them also that if I have to DIE in order to keep my family safe I would do it..

Anyway. . . .. ..



Yeah, either rat that ****** out or get him to cut you in on some freebies for NOT ratting him out. Lol

 

That is some shady ****.

 

Yeah, I'm tired of it. I will see what I can do soon, contact the PD or something. I honestly have no idea how many people are living in the apartment due to how many people come and go constantly, other than the white people that come and go, you can tell they are there for some sketchy business. I nearly asked that woman today what she was doing there, she looked so nervous she probably would have left right then. I've thought about asking the guy if he sold, and if I could buy some just to prove that he was dealing since I don't have and hard evidence.

 

Yeah if he's bringing around shady people and he is making the people around him uncomfortable than i'd contact the PD. But if he was respectful and kept to himself and kept his personal customers and **** away from the home then I wouldn't even worry about it. Also, yeah weed is sold in quarter oz/lb.

 

He's black, definitely call the police.


Just kidding! lol.

 

Dude.. No way would I inquire about buying something or asking questions, unless you are buying and smoking or whatever for real. They will see right through that ****. If I were you I would be looking at moving to a better complex, or relocating to an apartment in your complex away from this guy. Maybe inform the management and see how they react, then use your head and gut feeling if it's tolerated.

Drug deals and people traffic like that usually spells Trouble, sooner or later. And unless you wanna try and be the hero and take the heat from it, I wouldn't get too far involved. Anonymous, maybe, but drug dealers are all about money and don't give a rats *** bout you or your family. Steer clear, get out, then rat em out..

 

The worst part about that, the maintenance guy here at the complex is either real buddy-buddy with them, or in on it. Amanda and I are planning on moving when our lease is up in a couple of months, I can see the benefits of paying to live in a nicer area now, even though were right across the street from the college campus.

 

Whatever you do, do not ask him about anything. If you want to contact the police then do so. But once he gets arrested or whatever, he will be thinking about WHO it was that ratted him out. So, dont ask him a fkn thing about anything he does.

 

Do not do any of these things. Stay the **** away from it/him/the people the best you can.

Nothing respectful about being a ******* drug dealer in an apartment complex. The types of people that are buying the drugs could potentially be shady as hell. Doesn't matter if the guy selling is nice. Some ******* thief/rapist/general piece of **** could be buying from him. I don't know about anyone else, but those aren't the types of people I want around me or my property. Not saying everyone that smokes weed is a piece of **** because that would be far too broad and unfair, but caution has to be exercised in situations like this.


I'm sure Matt (Slim) will chime in here soon. If anyone can tell you exactly what to do, it's him.

 

Extort him.

 

God I'm glad weed's gunna be legal in cali next year. Stupid **** like this won't even be an issue.

You guys treat this like he's selling life ruining hard drugs... no it's ****** pawt. Less harmful than beer. Stoners aren't violent, they're hungry. Seriously... you'd think he was selling smack the way half of you guys react.

 

I'd just like to add that whenever I hear someone say "snitches get stitches", I have an uncontrollable urge to rip one of their kidneys out and throw it against a wall.

 

As much as I hate annoying/useless ******* drug dealers, this **** sounds like something a bored old man would be complaining about. Tell him to tell his "customers" get their ****, gtfo, and be on their ******* way, and quit lingering. I just hate getting cops involved in ****, because half the time they're useless, and I hate leaving matters in their hands.

 

When I read this, I thought you were my professor. We went over an example just like this in my Procedural Criminal Law class.

What you should do:
Get as much information as you can. Don't just go to the police and say "the guy under me is wheelin' and dealin'" If you can, get the time and duration of when his alleged customers are arriving and leaving, a vehicle description, a description of the person, (both don't have to be too crazy, "white female/black male; blue Toyota Camry, etc...) License plates would be good also. You should also include what time(s) the(se) incident(s) occur(s) throughout a day(s). If it's only from 9-11pm at night, or only on Fridays and Sundays, or what have you.


The example in our class was to show that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to private searches. It was about a complaint made to the police, similar in detail to this one, in which the police blew the guy off. The guy went and broke into the guys house, took some of the drugs and brought it back to the police. Now the police had some evidence, but there's a down side. You, being the private person, can still get in trouble/charged with breaking and entering or any crime that you commit during your adventure. Generally, if it's minor like a B&E under the totality of the circumstance, the police might look the other way.

 

I've gotten a PM from him already with a ton of useful info.

I am often torn between my ideas about statements like this. On on hand, I almost agree. BUT, my Dad smokes weed, and I see everyday how it changes him and it has contributed to me having a very limited relationship with him, and it has put a ton of strain on my family. I mostly have a problem with how this guy downstairs is attracting bad company so close to where I live. I have little problem with people who smoke and keep it to themselves.

I'm not going to ask him about it, the only thing I ever say to him is Hey, if I see him when I walk downstairs.

 

yeah, just dont get tangled in em.. the dealers in front of my house hear my s10 cause it sounds like all the other shitty cars that come and buy and they come stickign their heads out of doors, they walk slow, stare me down, i just wanna beat and stab them to death. i just can't stand how they act and look, its soo pitiful.

 

I'm betting weed has nothing to do with your dad's relationship with you and that his ability to form a relationship with you is the limiting factor there. I'm a dad, and I burn and I pay attention to my kids but, I do segregate myself away when it's time to toke up. That does lead to 30 minutes or an hour where I'm just flat unavailable but it does not hamper my relationship with them. I maintain a relationship with them that's comfortable for me, just like every parent does. Some are more comfy with ultra close family dynamics, others aren't. Blaming it on someone being stoned ... I'm not seeing that being realistic. I don't want to minimize your situation or to seem like I know you and your pop... I don't but I'll bet a crispy dollar that'll work in any machine that I'm right.

On the quality of life issue, go talk to him. Tell him you have no problem with his life but you would appreciate it if he could keep it a little further on the down low. Let him know that you don't want drama probably just as bad as him and that if you've noticed, others who aren't so understanding may have or certainly will soon and you'd like to keep the place free of unnecessary police presence. Perhaps your note that it's getting obvious will let him know that he's taking too much risk and he needs to be a little more discreet.

As far as I'm concerned he's violating an illegal law which is just like not violating anything at all. Civil disobedience leads to policy change... it's happening as people wake up to the truth. Don't feed the police state statistics that will make it take longer and hurt more innocent people trying to make a living.

 

If it's only weed, don't bother. People treat weed like cocaine and it's stupid.

R3d pretty much hit it on the nail.

 

Yeah, after I typed that, I told him about it and he said he already sent you a PM. Good deal.

 

agreed. Id say the person who sends an herb user to jail is FAR worse than the person smoking... All you ppl that think the herb users need to go to jail...take a good hard look at at why herb is illegal...it has NOTHING to do with the danger of the substance. It has ONLY to do with governmental greed. Why is alcohol legal? It kills thousands every year...and thousands of ppl that werent even drinking the stuff. Herb use has never killed a single person...ever.

If you think herb is wrong, then you must also believe that its ok to have thousands of people in prison, and have thousands of broken homes...thousands of parentless children...ect...all because of a ******* plant...an unmodified plant at that.

As soon as its legal in Cali, Im am seriously going to consider moving there. Its just flat out ******* wrong that its illegal and Id be saying the same **** if I was a fan of it or not.

 

Tell him to tell his customers to dress nicer and not look like slobs

 

I dont think the problem here is that the guy below him smokes weed or even posesses weed. Like 1FR500 he said the guy seems nice enough.

The issue is the people coming to buy the weed. He shouldnt be selling it out of his apartment, there are ways to get your product out without having shady people coming to his apartment all day long.

Think of it like this, Say homeboy is selling to a regular, however this time the buyer brings a buddy, somone he met recently that he doesent really know all that well and that dude gets an idea that this dealer probably has several thousand dollars in a shoebox in the other room and probably has a couple grand worth of pot in the house as well.

so next thing you know a few days later homeboy comes back to rob the dealer, **** goes wrong, shots are fired, one goes right through the ceiling and right into 1FR500's girlfriend and kills her.

he already said some middle aged meth'd out white chick was there, that is not the kind of people you want around your place, maybe she sees he has a nice TV in his living room then next thing you know her boyfriend shows up, robs and trashes 1FR500's apartment.

it isnt the fact it is weed, the problem is most dealers as careful as they are not to attract cops arent exactly the best judges of character, this guy is an idiot for selling out of his home, and if he is that careless to have people coming and buying weed from his house all day long what makes anyone think he is pulling background checks on his clientelle?


Im not saying weed is bad or anything, i could care less if people smoke it, and generally potheads are good people, if somewhat unproductive(present company excluded of course). I understand the desire to defent the pot dealer and say he is not a hardened criminal, but you have to look past HIM and see what people he is selling to right beneath 1FR500's feet.

I would drop an anonomous tip to the management office, they will call the cops, they will show up, scare the dealer, and he will feel he is under watch and stop selling out of his house.

 

well said, and I agree with this 100%.

 

Completely agree. I don't give two ***** if someone smokes, but don't bring the shady buyers around me or my loved ones.

 

i saw that and had to chuckle.

Hell man, if there has not been any selective breeding in the weed you smoke, you really oughtta find a new supplier, you dont know what you are missing.

 

haha...i meant unprocessed. like poppy to heroin and coca to cocaine...ect.

 

Honestly, id try to stay out of it. Park my car further away, and maybe drop a note off in his mailbox with no name. I cannot say what id do for sure but, from the sounds of it, its just sketchy.

 

+1,000,000