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PureStang 08-03-2009 08:50 PM

Is this true?
 
i was on a GM truck forum just now and came across a thread about catalytic converters.


Originally Posted by GMTruckClub.com
Hate to burst ya'lls bubble but just because there's no state emissions requirements or EPA there's still a federal EPA and EPA requirements, and they can and will fine you $10,000 per tampered with or removed mandatory smog device, i.e. catalytic convertors.
You may not have noticed them yet but every state (Indianna and Alabama included) has portable roadside check stations that will sniff your vehicle as it drives by, if it detects high threshholds or certain gasses they have an on board camera that snaps a picture of your license plate and in a few weeks you can expect a letter in the mail to inform you your vehicle is not in compliance with EPA clean air standards. Failure to comply or aknowledge this letter can get you a visit and mandatory vehicle inspection with a Federal court date for clear up the little matter of your vehicles emissions issues.
Dont confuse yourself these are Federal checkpoints and they will make you comply. Your state wont back you one bit if they want to continue getting Federal Highway funding.

i have never heard of this. i would have thought that with all of the mustangs/zo6/camaros, etc. we would have heard of such thing. i have heard people being pulled over by cops and getting in trouble but never heard of these little stations.

Switch 08-03-2009 08:56 PM

I don't believe that.

Tape 08-03-2009 09:07 PM

sorry but Alabama does not have the technology or the brains to pull this off so I call BS!!!!!!

I mean hell, we just made insurance mandatory.

JackThe Ripper 08-03-2009 09:07 PM

thats horseshit.

Ive been on here for about 5 years now and I dont know HOW many people on here have run cat-less, no to mention i know probably 8-10 people directly that run offroad setups, and i have yet to hear of a SINGLE person getting nailed for it unless they were pulled over by the cops and had thier inspected with illegal modifications.

and i know what the machines are he is talking about, its that van that sits by the side of on ramps and off ramps with the sniffer sitting next to the road. My Honda's cat was cored out for about 5 months and i blow past those all day long.

to that poster, "I hate to burst yall bubble, but dont believe everything you hear"

mustangvsix 08-03-2009 09:11 PM

yeah no way are they able to tell if your vehicle is emitting too much emissions as you drive buy on a highway, mainly considering it will not know if your vehicle is older or new, big or small, and whether or not it's just your cars exhaust gas or yours + who ever else is driving next to you. Sounds like a big load of BS

JackThe Ripper 08-03-2009 09:16 PM

http://www.aircarecolorado.com/rapidscreen/index.html

this is what we have. If you go past and they approve you then you dont have to get emissions later that year.

if they fail you, well, you have to get emissions when yours expires.

that guy nsounds like one of those gloom and doom morons who believes every negative thing he believes.

how nice would it be if people would spend 5 seconds on a google search rather than believe something that scares them and start spouting it out as gospel.

lol..

gm dude FTL!

jameslf 08-03-2009 09:24 PM

There are federal requirements, sure. But all states having sniffers on the roadsides connected to cameras, omg what a freakin' moron. VA can't even afford to repave the shittiest interstate sections south of New Jersey ,much less install magic sniffer cams. That nut must sit around and brew up conspiracy theories all day in his brain scan blocking armadillo helmet.

jameslf 08-03-2009 09:27 PM

Of course, a loyal GM fan is stupid enough to believe that.

AMNick 08-04-2009 02:00 PM

I bet he read that in an email titled: "FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:WARNING TO ALL CAR LOVERS" and the person that wrote the email knows it has to be true for a fact...because their friend's sister's roommate's fiancé's grandmother's chiropractor's janitor knows an LEO that told him so.

whitestang04 08-04-2009 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by AMNick (Post 422225)
I bet he read that in an email titled: "FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:WARNING TO ALL CAR LOVERS" and the person that wrote the email knows it has to be true for a fact...because their friend's sister's roommate's fiancé's grandmother's chiropractor's janitor knows an LEO that told him so.

:hahaha:You're probably on to something there

AMNick 08-04-2009 02:16 PM

Closest thing I found: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/auto...49/detail.html

Clif Notes: Portable drive by emissions testing stations in CO...no crazy fines or nationwide conspiracy lol, just a convenience thing for people. They don't have to get their yearly test at a garage if they pass the drive by test.

zigzagg321 08-04-2009 02:17 PM

thats BS.

00blkstanggt 08-04-2009 03:02 PM

It's uber true

03_GT 08-04-2009 03:51 PM

its true and sucks.

But here in Florida their is no emission laws :D

King 08-04-2009 04:11 PM

Yet. In 2010 the emissions rules are going to get stricter I imagine. There is no way Florida can't have ANY emissions, that's crazy. Oh and Colorado-folks get ready for next year. Larimer and Weld Counties will finally have emissions (or so I here).

Switch 08-04-2009 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by King (Post 422246)
Yet. In 2010 the emissions rules are going to get stricter I imagine. There is no way Florida can't have ANY emissions, that's crazy. Oh and Colorado-folks get ready for next year. Larimer and Weld Counties will finally have emissions (or so I here).

We still have to follow federally mandated laws.

08mustang_gt 08-04-2009 11:20 PM

There will still be garages that accept a little under-the-table cash for a sneak by. Hell that's what everyone does here. There is a Z06 down the road with just headers and a cherry-bomb on the end. Sounds like a goddamn thunder storm driving down the road. Got pulled over and the cop told him it SMELT and SOUNDED nice.

I call BS as well.

Plus the car could be like our '65 and just smell like gasoline ALL THE TIME! Running or not, it smells like fuel is just oozing out of it. And nothing leaks, it's just the way it is.

These are the same people that believe your car can be tracked through its emissions because no car is the same. Somehow a magic sniffer satellite can track your car through it's C02 output. LOL.

We're not THAT damn high tech.

00blkstanggt 08-05-2009 07:51 AM

It's only a matter of time until all you guys start catching up to the Cali standards. haha Ive been running long tubes and an o/r x-pipe for about 4 years now.

jjtgiants 08-05-2009 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Tape (Post 422119)
sorry but Alabama does not have the technology or the brains to pull this off so I call BS!!!!!!.

LOL....that was my first thought!

audikillsbmw 08-05-2009 09:46 AM

The only automated system I know of that can give you tickets in my state is Illinois' I-Pass system, but that has nothing to do with emissions. I think that guy is just a nutter :rolleyes:
EDIT: we also have vans with cameras that sit in the construction zones overnight to tell if you're speeding, but once again that has nothing to do with emissions.

audikillsbmw 08-05-2009 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by 08mustang_gt (Post 422386)
There will still be garages that accept a little under-the-table cash for a sneak by. Hell that's what everyone does here. There is a Z06 down the road with just headers and a cherry-bomb on the end. Sounds like a goddamn thunder storm driving down the road. Got pulled over and the cop told him it SMELT and SOUNDED nice.

I call BS as well.

Plus the car could be like our '65 and just smell like gasoline ALL THE TIME! Running or not, it smells like fuel is just oozing out of it. And nothing leaks, it's just the way it is.

These are the same people that believe your car can be tracked through its emissions because no car is the same. Somehow a magic sniffer satellite can track your car through it's C02 output. LOL.

We're not THAT damn high tech.

Yeah.. If I buy that '69 that I'm looking at I plan on putting cats on it. Not really for emissions reasons, but because I hate how bad cat-less cars stink :(

King 08-05-2009 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by 00blkstanggt (Post 422449)
It's only a matter of time until all you guys start catching up to the Cali standards. haha Ive been running long tubes and an o/r x-pipe for about 4 years now.

Didn't "The Govenator" try to make it where the Cali Emissions Standards were nationwide? I remember hearing something along the lines of possibly switching the the Cali system by summer 2011 for around here, but I don't know if that has developed any.

garrett01001 08-06-2009 06:01 PM

Can't you just clear check engine errors with a tuner and get through emissions tests?

audikillsbmw 08-06-2009 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by garrett01001 (Post 422865)
Can't you just clear check engine errors with a tuner and get through emissions tests?

Nope. The computer runs various tests to determine whether or not everything is functioning within spec, and when you clear the codes those tests are also cleared. The emissions place checks to see if those tests have been run when they check your car. Some vehicles (like my Audi) don't require that all of the tests are run though, which is why I was able to slip through with bad cats.

krazypony 08-07-2009 08:45 AM

move to SC and you have no emissions, or inspections what so ever!

has its pro's and cons...

I had laugh over this comment...


I mean hell, we just made insurance mandatory

jjtgiants 08-07-2009 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by King (Post 422521)
Didn't "The Govenator" try to make it where the Cali Emissions Standards were nationwide? I remember hearing something along the lines of possibly switching the the Cali system by summer 2011 for around here, but I don't know if that has developed any.

Possibly, but I think the issue was Cali tried to go way beyond the Federal law restrictions and the Feds wouldn't let Cali do it.....I believe once Bush left office the Feds said sure, do whatever you want, it's your State. The larger issue was the Federal Gov vs States rights.

I hate to say it, but it's just a matter of time before other States follow Cali's lead.


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