Certainly looks that way.... I see at least 2 more Rings for them under the guidance of Bill....

As for the video tape - I think everyone does it, its just the Pats that got caught...

Everyone thinks their team is above this sort of thing, not likely.. Professional football is a BUSINESS, all teams will do whatever they can do legally, or what they think they can get away with on the ropes of legality to have an edge..

Am I upset the Pats management would let something like this happen? Yes, I'm pissed.. The Pats are too good of a team to have their rep tarnished by a jackass stunt like this. Bill took responsibility for what happened and paid his fine. As for thsoe who can't let go of the past, you need to move on, bitching now is not going to change the outcome of a game from last season or further back.

3 super bowl rings in 4 years..........is there anyother reason why they shouldnt be a dynasty. cuz definitely coming here laughing,doesnt help u very well explain why they SHOULDNT be one. cowboys were garbage in the 80's won like 4 super bowls in like 5 years and became americas team.

seriously keep ignorance out the thread, and if u o have some. it would be nice to have some support other then a laugh:t:

more like 3 superbowls in the last ten years, which isn't incredibly impressive, especially when they cheat. So they did two in a row, big whoop. the broncos won two superbowls in a row 98-99 and nobody screamed dynasty. the cowboys won 3 between 93-96. And the cowboys and broncos weren't winning by a field goal like the pats barely managed to do in their three superbowls.



LMGDAO at the pats as a dynasty

The chargers are struggling this year...

this isnt baseball where key players, play together for about 10 seasons. football has a salary cap,free agency, and offers from other teams. to take top players away from a team. its hard keeping 3-4 great guys together for 6 seasons. pats won 3 super bowls WITH NOa big name receiver. it was all defense. now im just laughing at ur ignorance for trying to explain to me why they shouldnt be a dynasty and seeing u fail.

so yes they are a dynasty. is funny that u dont play football, and i sit back watching the pros and annoncer and even people like john madden sit back and call them a dynasty. people have their opinions, but u just dont come with a good arguement as to change my mind why they shouldnt be a dynasty especially i sit down and watch them play. and that head coach got a contract extension so hes gonna be around for awhile :D

cheating....hahhaahahha who hasnt.

LMGDAO at how serious some people take sports. I love seeing guys like you get all riled up over things that don't matter. You think I seriously thought I was going to change anyones opinion? People like whatever team they choose, and not much is going to change that. It's just funny how some people take anything negative said about their team as a personal insult and start bandying about words like ignorant. Ignorant? Football? Give me a break.

not really they still have all the same people they just have bad play calls by there d cordinator

Apparently you're a fat kid who doesn't know much. Baseball has salary caps, for sure. Big named guys in football don't play with a team for longer then 6 seasons? Really?

Jerry Rice ?
Brett Farve?
Junior Seau?
Drew Bledsoe was with the Pats for a long while..
The list can continue going on.

Baseball doesn't have a free agency? Teams don't get offers from other teams?

Buddy, you need to learn a few things before you start spewing out bullshit.

Most football players won't play for over 10 seasons now days, especially when dudes are bitching out because of shit like "turf toe"

And Madden spews out more garbage then just about anyone out there it seems like, he'll spew out just to continue a senseless rant.

I wouldn't call the Pats a dynasty yet, will the be? Sure, eventually.

Teams that every decade seem to contend I'd call a dynasty. Packers,Jets,Bills, teams that have been around playing in bowl games since the 60s.

You can consider them a dynasty now, sure, whatever.

Oh and 4.6, this is going to end up another 9-7 season for San Diego, not running Mike Turner, Oline not creating holes, Defense lacking in something (needs more roids ) Rivers just being a complete moron..coaches..it'll go on and on.

Every team cheats? Sure, they find loopholes. But its funny how this is the first time I've ever heard of video taping in football, stealing frequencies, and wiring up defensive linemen so they can know how to counter the opponents plays.

DID YOU LISTEN TO MADDEN ON THAT ONE KIDDO? Lol.

For a team that is susposed to be dominant, its really pathetic they have to use those low balling methods, just go dope up 2 or 3 guys on some good juice and call it good.

Oh wait.. don't they have a guy suspended for that one already? Can't remember if its their Harrison or not..

im not even a patriot fan, so i dont know where u got from. and "riled up" thats not me either. but anyway i saw another post directed towards me


brb lol.

i dont have time or want to read everything u put up, so im gonna carve it up for ya. ok "buddy"

basically ur comprehension skills suck, so ill try to keep it in laymans terms. yea im fat....so listen to the fat guy real quick, now the biggest point about what i said was u cant keep 3-4 GREAT GUYS together for more then 6 season without sacrificing salary room or losing an A athlete. im telling u, might wanna go back and read what i said b4 u go on a rant again.

but im glad u can spell athletes names right...:confused:

and yes it is true, im a fat guy whos 6'5 and 240 pounds. :p

well i don't even really hate the patriots so i guess we should stop arguing for no reason. (even though any arguing about anything sports related is arguing for no reason)



But i still think they cheat

You not having the time is BS.

Maybe your comprehension skills are what suck. Simple fact is, a team can keep 3-4 good players for 6 years. The only problem is good players don't want to stick with a team that doesn't win, finding a good player that will stay injury free for that long is rare, and many times when they become big stars or w/e they have been in the game for a few years already.

3-4 great players on a team for years isn't uncommon, even for years. The team has to be able to make MONEY to pay for big named players.

Don't start trying to bullshit and say "well in football its harder to pay them and bla bla bla and its more competitive in pay" and garbage.

The risk of injury is higher, which causes an earlier retirement (sometimes) Especially when its a great player. Great players are targeted.

NFL Release Patriots video...
 

They make it look so easy...:D:D:D:D::D
Lmgdao @ all the patriots fan on here...


Hahaha...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntw7G7enxEk