Road Kill
 

MWAHAHAHAHA Hell yeah

lol...

on my way home last night i saw a car riding behind me, round headlights with 2 slightly raised fog lights (i always thought foglights were low cause then they would reach beneath the fog but whatever) So i get into the middle lane and slow down a bit and a brand spanking new 2007 Mustang GT California Special pulls along side of me still with temp tags. I give him thumbs up, he waves. Then a few seconds later he honks his horn 3 times. We were on a residential road at the time which has about a 1/2 strip with no lights and no side roads, just 3 lanes on either side seperated by a large grassy median and the back fences of houses beyond that.
I punch it, he punches it, i start pulling on him, we ran from 30-85 and by the time i hit 85 i was still pulling on him and his headlights were 1/2 car length behind me.
At 85 i had my fun and let off, there are no side roads on the whole strip and no traffic or lights but i dont trust the range of cops radars and my car is pretty loud. lol..
we hit the next intersection and he look a little bit ticket that a new egde took his brand new california special, and with his girlfriend in the car no less.

lol...


bout damn time i beat something... last several races ive been in involved either a econobox with turbos bigger than thier engine, or a $50,000+ car

edge ftw :kekekegay: i would be pissed to

oh yeah, if you can imagine how pissed that cali special guy was, imagine how pissed the modified mach 1 was when I beat him! ahha, with my magnaflow exhaust ahah

wow, shitty drivers FTL!

good kill Chris.

yup.

fo sho.

haha he must not have the foot yet for the mustang haha

California Specials are rebadged GTs.

lol

I'm not a hater of the SN197s but I still love to see a 99-04 beat them,,, Good job Jack!

Nice kill!

I agree, but what's your point?

2004
260 hp @ 5250 RPM
302 lb-ft @ 4,000 RPM

2007
300 hp @ 5750 RPM
320 lb-ft @ 4500 RPM

Im just stating the fact.. not trying to be an asshat.

Jacks car isnt stock. Not only is he significantly lighter, but he has bolt-ons and gears which more than makes up for the horsepower difference. A high geared car will always take the win from a roll as well, in the same (or similar) vehicle. Gears are essentially, a torque multiplier. it can be put into its powerband a lot faster than someone whos not geared that way. And horsepower numbers dont mean jack shit. Its torque thats the winning number and they are pretty close.

New Fords suck!!! That is unless you buy a GT. Opps, forgot they quit making the hottest new thing to be bought off any US dealer showroom floorin the past 15 years. The new Corvette Z06 for example ,give me a break. They take a world-class N/A motor and put it in a front engine/rear drive chassis and say it can run with the world's best. No not quite, not when every sports car enthusiat in the modern world will tell you the engine needs to be further back, something like a, drum roll please... Ford GT, Enzo, Lambo, Veyron, etc...

The last SN197 I came upon was stock and like the T/A I was in, supposedly makes just over 300hp. My car isn't very far from that and weighs stock spec, but I just plummled this Mustang. I thought he let off I passed him so fast, but he said he was on it for all it had. I'm not hating on just Ford either, all the new performance cars from domestic automakers are soft and fat and ill designed to be sports cars. They are way more made for the masses/commuters.

Sorry to get so far off topic, but at least let me show you the pic I have of Factory Five's LS7 mid-engine sports car I saw earlier this year:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1253/...46cbaf59c8.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1106/...510662a32a.jpg

Now that's how you do it!!!

uh....what???? s197 kicks ass...and the z06 CAN run with any car in the world...it can run with any exotic for a fraction of the exotics price...who cares where its engine is??

To get the new Z06 to run with the world's best at the 'ring in Germany took weeks of tuning and a ringer driver. Average driver, average setup, mid engine cars just handle beter. It is physics, and you can't beat physics. As for that new/old Mustang design, whatever it is designated, that weighs 4,000+ my 9 year old car can take it, stock vs, stock. That begs the question, which direction is Ford going? I see it as they are trying to sell to the masses and avoid bankruptcy, not making the hottest thing they could make. When GM was steady losing the stock battles against Ford in the 80's, they stepped up displacement in the 90's and got back in front. Why didn't/don't more 5.4s go into Mustangs to help make up the difference?

As for the bargain $ on the Z06, well it looks like a bagain price car when you get down to it. You get a much higher level of refinement when you pay the 6 digits that true exotics pull. Anyway, GM engineers have wanted to go mid-engine for a long time with the 'vette, but the old school feedback refuses to get behind such an idea. If the 'vette truly wants to step up to hallowed exotic car ground it needs to move the engine back and forget about a trunk.

honestly...stock to stock your 88 5.0 can maybe run with a new edge v6...it wont smoke a s197 v6 and my gt can do rings around it

Thats not what the sticker on my door says.

That is true, I forgot that Chris had gears. Good call! :boink:

The older fox's can spank the 197's in the 1/8, but not in the 1/4.

There is a good 500+lb. weight difference between them, so that can help to bridge the gap on a shorter track.

stock to stock???? i have yet to see that and i've run a few of em...like i said...maybe a v6 engine but a stock 1988 is not holding a candle to any modern gt...

Yes sir. In-fact I just had a guy come in that runs the local 1/8 in his fox and he beats up on the 197's all the time. I believe all he has is exhaust.

Don't ever doubt the fox, they will surprise you.

i worship the fox...it was and still remains the most legendary beast on the street and i salute it for what it is...but even if it wasnt a 20 year old car and i could take my gt back to 1988 and run them both off the dealer lot in a straight line it wouldnt pull on a s197...modded is another story...where i am i see them lift the front wheels all the time...modded up i have no doubt they would kick a ferraris ass but we are talkin stock to stock...and then we're talkin a stock 20 year old 225 hp car versus a spankin new 300 hp car...just havent seen it happen

Sorry to make this unclear, but maybe you can't see my signature or notice the part in the first sentence above where I said I was in a T/A. That is a '98 LS1 T/A, and I assure you that new body 'stang wants none stock-on-stock.

I know of the out of the hole fox body performance too. Believe it or not I know of one pretty stock that took a Lambo Contach(early 80's model) from the dig to 50!

Not your car, the '05+ models.

Yah im not stock. 4:10's, some minor suspension, catback exhaust, Intake, and a performance tune.

and now i have a Shaker and carbon fiber hood. And i managedd to get it to work with my K&N CAI. lol.

9 hours of work, i got the Carbon Fiber Hood, MM Strut tower brace, Shaker, and Hoodpins all set up.

More pics to come, im in trouble with the girl right now for ignoring her all day yesterday, so i gotta get back to her.

It looks fuggin sick, my kid digs it too.

ill post a detailed thread of install and pics tomorrow. or maybe late late tonight

http://a158.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...e7d7e5558d.jpg

that is one of the funniest mustang related pics I have ever seen! LMFAO!!

so its done? installed? pics?

Nice kill jack! I love when an S197 goes down! ha ha

I read your thread and I think your right about that guys tune being horrible in the mach. With a good tune that dude should be making around 320rwhp and 340rwtq. With that said, I've raced LOTS of 99-04 GT's in my mach from stop light to stop light there isn't too much difference between the two cars. The difference is the 3rd gear and the extra 1,000rpm's of the 4v....like the LS1's, that's where the mach shines. Yeah, get that dude to the tuner ASAP

Your comparing mustangs and vettes to a freakin enzo and veryron? Thats stupid. A veryron is a freakin w16 with quad turbos. How do you even compare that with an all motor V8? Try comparing cars with equal power.I will give you the fact that ferraris do out handle most cars, but the new ZO6 is faster then the first year Ford GT with also a price tag of $75,000 less.

The GT's problem was the powerplant. LS7 much better piece of equipment than the 'charged 5.4L. If you put a LS7 in a GT structure - WHAMO!! Supercar. Hey that's sort of the pic I posted. I know the comparison is way over-the-top, but I wasn't necessarily comparing a pony car to a fewhundredcarrun of an uber-exotic. I just mainly wanted to state that the Corvette will never be all it can be until it becomes a mid-engine platform. I know it still won't have 600+ hp like the super-exotics, but it will be really close. If you take away a lot the US mainstream OEM parts and upgrade to racer tech goodies like the exotics come with from the factory anyway, then the GM powerplant would make in excess of the 600hp mark. Supposedly such a beast is coming soon anyway, and I hope so, but even more so I would love to see a C7 Corvette with the engine out back.

The new ZO7 or "Blue Devil" corvette is suppose to have around 600-650hp. The corvette I think is hands down the best bang for your buck. American cars keep their cost down so people can afford them. Thats why the corvette does well cause you get the performance plus a decent cost. Take a Ferrari F430. That costs what $200,000 or more. Granted I would take that car in a heartbeat, but it's slower then the ZO6 and almost $150,000 more. Sacrifices are always going to be made especially with American cars.