1. a well placed shot is far more importand then a large caliper. You can take down whitetails with a .22mag if the placement is correct. So as for saying x round is not good for stopping a man 5 feed away from you . . . come on.

But a gun with more balls is allways fun ;)

I would get something with a little bit longer barrel, most of these self-defence side arms are tiny, and at the range (25yards) they are just all over the place. bottom line, these guns are for shooting people, people at close range to boot.

Oh, and as for the glock being a pansy gun, perhaps he was refering to the recoil, as with any auto-loader the recoil is going to be far less then your average revolver because of the energy that is going into ejecting the cartrage and puting a new round into the chamber.

IMO shotguns should only be used to hunt deeer if your doing a push (aka have to shoot at a fast moving target) in that case 00 buckshot FTW. But when i hear about people hunting from a stand with a shotgun i just cringe . . .


let us all learn from dirty hairy . . .

all praise the .44 mag.

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Alright so bring on all the flamers now who hate both 9mm and Glocks, because I ended ub buying a glock G34 9mm today. I considered something bigger but this one was an awesome deal and 9mm ammo is really cheap so i can shoot off a few hundred rounds at a time. I also just really liked the way it looked and felt in my hand. Its considered a "competition" size it has a 5 inch barrel and an adjustable sight. It's supposed to go for $625 but I got it for $450.

bah...

wtf was the point of this thread...

quit snivelin'.

I really like mine. And the 35. I have a nice collection stuffed in a safe in Nevada. 450 is a helluva good deal on that gun. Is it used? If it is you should probably replace the mainspring and check the bore for wear. If the previous owner used his like most do then it was something like IPSC and it's seen a good bit of use. No worries... I have 2 glocks with 300K+ rounds through them and they're still tight as the day I bought em (new barrels though... they do wear out.)

I think the thread started as a suggestion box about personal defense guns which is kinda funny given that none of us can judge this dudes particular needs. Our suggestions are best guesses if anything. Since any gun is better than none when you need one, I don't bet it much matters which one he gets as long as he does so and learns how to use it for close quarters combat.

the point was to get suggestions on which firearm to purchase, and you guys believe it or not helped me make my decision. and i just figured i'd let everyone know what i ended up going with.

R3dn3ck, it is used, but you can hardly tell as it has hardly any wear. I was planning on checking the springs the first time i take it apart to clean it. It really was a great price, and i probably wouldn't have been able to get that price if i didn't know the dealer personally. now i just have to wait untill the stupid 10 day waiting period is over so i can pick it up and then start shooting. My dad even wants to go get a handgun now too so he can go to the range with me.

I absolutely LOVED the 9mm Glock I shot. It was a dream in my hands, and it just felt right. Good buy.

don't expect too much from the 9mm as far as accuracy is concerned. The Glock 34 were smokin accurate for 9mm but they were never anything close to a true "match" gun. It's accurate enough to spank just about any other combat worty autofeeder though and the recoil is so low you'll probably never develop a flinch because of it.

I favor my 21c above all my others. It's the loudest 45 I own but it's also the single most reliable. When I carry, that's the one I reach for first. Otherwise I like a Kel-Tec P11 or my Grendel P12.

as long as its accurate enough to put a couple rounds in an intruders chest from 15 feet away i'm happy.

2 in the pump + 2 in the ECU. Shuts that motor down for good.

I was just going through some old paperwork and I found my Utah CCW permit. I qualified with a Desert Eagle .44mag, a .475 Linebaugh (converted Ruger Super Blackhawk) and a 3" barrel S&W 629 (.44mag).

Gawd that s&w was loud. 3" barrel, 44mag and 4x magnaported. Utah had some quirky rule that if you were going to use a wheel gun you had to qualify with one, same with autos. Given that I'm just as likely as not to be carrying BOTH, I figured might as well qualify with 1 of each type. Picking .44mag was just luck... some of my buddies brought theirs just for laughs. I brought the .475 in that day to get a new set of grips... seemed natural to spend 30 bucks on ammo just to qualify ($3/rd x 2 cylinders full x 5 shot cylinder).

All 15 of us in the class that day qualified with .44mag or higher power pistols. The instructor didn't think we were serious when we said he'd be teaching "enthusiasts" and not beginners and was kinda condescending so we all showed him what he was dealing with. Every one of us was either an instructor or a multi-dicipline competitive champion. He was a little surprised to see 1" groups from rapid fire sessions with a Desert Eagle.

I loaned him my .475 Linebaugh and he ended up cracking his radius (forearm bone) on the 3rd shot. You gotta be ready to shoot that gun. I used a 44 every day for an hour for a whole year just to get used to recoil before I shot the 475.

So instead of starting a new thread, i thought i'd zombify this one. I bought a new gun for the range today, a Walther p22 with the 3.4" barrel. For those of you who don't shoot, ammo prices have gone way up recently. This means it's kinda expensive now for me to shoot 100 rounds or more in one session, even though 9mm ammo is still one of the cheapest centerfire pistol rounds. Thats why I decided to get a .22 for the range. (I still have my glock stashed under the bed)

Starting September 1st ammo prices will increase from 15-30%. So buy what you need now, there shouldn't be a much significant increase in .22 ammo, but for 9mm, .30-06, .223, 7.62, etc everyone is cringing. Prices of reloading equipment will be increasing too.


Just got to shoot conservatively now.

Clarify please?

meant to say .223

Please keep your hands where I can see them, thank you.

Huh

aren't you that weird (potentially flaming homosexual) bible thumper guy.

In your dreams dumbass, keep on looking for your special guy so maybe one day your lifelong dream of getting fucked up the ass will finally come true, fag. hahahahaha fag.











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Loser

Haha, really hit a nerve there didn't I preacher boy

tag ... looks like the dude dun got found out.

Hi there pcola as I mentioned in my previous post I hope your dreams come true! perhaps you and r3dn3ck can go and fuck yourselves. :D lol







Cheers!

Stupid


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What the fuck is your problem? Can't take a joke? You better watch what you type cause telling mods to go fuck themselves is a great way to get the banhammer. Now grow some balls, learn how to take a joke, and don't take the internet too serious.

oh jesus fawking christ...this shit again? lmao.

I can take a joke can you?



Cheers!