Jacks Surveillance and ghosts!
 

Ok, so last night i went up to the girls place and got the surveillance gear set up. (see post on "Jack vs Stalker")

Pretty easy, diddnt take long, but the vcr i brought over had no remote, so i couldnt switch it to the aux input from the camera so i have to go back tonight with a VCR i just bought....

on a side tangent here, i really care about her safety and i wanna catch the bastard if he pulls that crap again. The VCR i brough over wouldnt work without the remote, so i spent 60 bucks on a new one. I told the girl that i got it for 25 bucks because it was a customer return because she feels guilty that i spent too much money. Any of you ever do that?

Anyways, last night i got everything setup, the 13inch tv is in her room, the camera is in a hidden location and shows both the front door and the sliding glass door. we hang out, have a few beers, talk for a few hours then we decide to hit the sack.

Well, im in her room looking at the tv, and all of the sudden i see one of those "orbs" that they always talk about on those ghost hunter shows. I thought Must be dust. Then i see another one fly in the other direction. then 2 more. then nothing, then another. and this keeps up.

now, we were hanging in her living room and i diddnt see ANY bugs in there, and with the traffic of orbs i was seeing if they were bugs i woulda saw em.

I dont want to say anything to spook my girl more than she already is. So i dont say nothing. I go to the bathroom and brush my teeth, come back and she says "Honey check it out! My place is haunted! those are orbs!" and she has this smile on her face.
"thats what the ghost hunters say about these things"
She says that it is her grandma and some deceased friends watching out for her.

anyways, got a kick out of it. I dont know how much i believe it, but these things were moving in all directions, changing directions, and zipping around faster than dust and there were no bugs that i could see in her apartment.

for some reason this stuff only seems to work with night-vision infrared.

So, my girl's place is swarming with these orbs.

So tonight when i head up there to install the VCR, im bringing a fly swatter and taking care of the orbs too.



oh yeah, that mace stuff aint no bull****! She took the one on her keychain and sprayed some in the sink to make sure it works. I got about 2 feet from where she sprayed it and my eyes and throat started stinging! Thats some brutal stuff. she got the foam kind that wont mist back at ya.

i bet if you tape enough, the easter bunny will pop out too

Hey if we want to dress up in costume for our deprraved sex-capades thats our business.

just got a call from the girl, the DA got ahold of this and wants to turn this into a serious stalking case and make an example of this guy.

LOL @ Jake Olney!

lol, yeah, usually the orbs are distant reflections, and since you have the caera outside it could be from a long, long away. traffic, peoples houses, etc. I always seem to catch an orb around my cars when taking pics, but its a reflection thing... althout it would be nice to tell your G/F that these orbs are her friends, and apparently they read the thread and are know watchign over her. (the deceased dont bother watching people, the internet is where its at in the afterlife)

Jack your posts are getting weirder and weirder my friend! ha ha ha...

lol, naa, actually the camera is inside the livingroom. She had the blinds and everything shut up and closed. It is probably dust, but if it is dust i had no idea dust could move the way it does. lol

Hey any way you can convert that video and post it on here, i want to see these orbs your talking about

Im sure there is a way, but i really dont have a way myself.... uhh... i can try taking my DVD vid camera over and seeing if i can catch em, but i think you need to get them on night vision to see em ad my dvd cam doesent have that.

i can give it a shot.

i have no idea how to convert VCR tape to computer. actually, i dont even have a computer of my own.

ill take my camcorder over tonight and give that a shot.

Wow, you've had some long and strange post the past couple days. I'm iterested in whats gonna happen next. lol

Welp, next im probably going to have to kick out my roomate.
he moved in and a couple days later wiped out his bike while he was drunk. long story short, he has betrayed my trust, driven my mustang when i diddnt give him permission, he also borrowed a bunch of money from somebody who is demanding that cash out of him asap and he still owes me $880.

ugh

i cant wait untill my life gets simpler again

Are'nt roomates suppose to help you pay for stuff, not owe you money. lol I'd kick that dude to the curb too, no one drives the stang with out permission.:nono:

Ghosts are no joke:eek:..

It's the dead hooker's comming after you Jack :)

Ahhh crap... hopefully my girlfriend doesent have a talent of speaking to the dead or im gonna have some explainin to do!

actually..yeah..they are, lol

cmon jack..you cant honestly beleive that little orbs are "spirits" of people who died? lmao even typing it sounds rediculous

You know i dont really believe in yer perverbial ghosts, but that does not mean things are not really happening. its just a scapegoat name people have put on a perfectly explainable phenomenon.

An idea i kind of think makes sence when it comes to hauntings is the idea that human brains are quite capable of breaking away from the 3 dimentional chronological perception that we have. Further more i think some people do this all the time without knowing it. Yes, time and space are simply perceptions not an absolute. They are perceptions humans use to make sence of the universe and be able to navigate through it.

So in extreme circumstances of incredible emotional or physical pain, suffering, or even happiness, or even some people who just do this regularly without knowing it, i feel it is possible that the brain might temprarily break free of 3d+time perception in the subconcious level and find a thought, event, or action and lock it in a continuous loop that occasionally re-manifests itself from time to time.

For example, that EVP thing, the idea of talking to ghosts. Say there is somebody who'se subconcious will quite often for some unknown reason break away from 3d and time(which are not an absolute) to place a stamp that transends human perception. They are in thier house, somebody asks thier name, and the person answers. Right at that moment they are stamping reality and twisting a percieveable scrap of time into a loop.

So the EVP people come in years later, ask thier name and it almost acts like a trigger to replay that instant in time, however, it is extremly faint and only audible through drastically amplified recordings. People assume it is a ghost, even though it is not, it is simply somebody triggering a responce that has been stamped into space but not time.

Same thing goes with Actions and Emotions. People who have that knack to set small loops living in a place over the course of time could possible create enough of these anomalies that people feel there is a real paranormal presence, (haunted house for example) when it is really something that will probably be understood and explained with the advancement of understanding of the human psyche and quantum physics as well as dimentional knowledge. This is all stuff that is being studied at universitys by scholars around the world. Not this specifically, but it is an idea that folds nicely into the ideas of quantum physics that are being explored which easily put non-ghosty explanations to phenomenon that is still hardly understood.

While most "Hauntings" are benign with nothing that is potentially dangerous, some of these stamps can be of violent actions such as muder, rape, twisted emotions, fire, pain, paranoia, jealousy, insane ravings, which very much could lead to the perception of "Evil Ghosts" haunting a place. and in that case i supposed it could be a dangerous place to be.

To say i dont believe in ghosts would be accurate, however i very much do believe in the events and phenomonon that is normally attributed to "ghosts" as real experiences and not the ramblings of the insecure or insane, but real actual events that can and have been documented, recorded, witnessed, and videotaped.

I lived in the crocker ranch up near estes park for about 6 months when i was in 4th grade. My grandparents were caretakers of the 1,500 acre estate and we stayed there while my father was stationed in washington DC.

Enough crazy things that made no sence to me at the time happened and i very very very much did fully believe in ghosts. Anyone who spends more than a few days there ends up believing in ghosts. some things benign, some down right frightening. As my understanding of the universe, of life, and of perception increased i started to attribute completly different explanations to events that were very much real in the physical, visual and emotional sence. I NEVER saw a "ghost" but i saw wierd stuff, everyone in the family who stayed there saw stuff, felt stuff, heared stuff. That stuff all happened. But no, i dont believe it was ghosts. Just looped recordings of actual events that occasionally get stamped into space without an anchor of time to make them stop, which then are triggered and are percieveable in our own level of existance.

Does that help?

lol....

ya'll probably think im crazy. On of these days in the next 15-20 years it will be proven and yer all gonna think of me. :t:

I believe in spooks 100%..;)

lmao, so does greg. :flamed:

interesting theory..to say the least..

i can't say..it make any sense at all. lol. you're saying that somone gets pissed, and leaves behind that anger (basically) but in what manner? what is the anger..transcending?

human emotions are controled by nueral impulses sent to and from the limbic system in the brain. i dont see how that can be "stamped" somwhere

but if its what you beleive, hey more power to you. its alot better than "omg, like a GHOST is haunting this house!"

I believe in Ghost.I lived in a house when I was a kid that was haunted like a MF'er!!!!

Give's me chill's after all these year's just thinking about it.You can say BS but you could'nt get me back in that house for anything.........Well maybe for a KB Mongoose kit lol

I don't believe in ghosts, I am holding out until I have a true experience. A group of friends and I spent several hours at a local diner late at night talking about ghosts. They each had a ghost story that they say 'totally' happened to them, or there family, or their dog. I had nothing. However, I did creep the **** out of them. I mentioned that whilst driving I regularly check my rearview mirror. This is both because of cops and because of other cars. I also do this at night. At night around here there are steetlights every so often on really dark roads, and as you are driving you will look into your rearview mirror and SWEAR you see something in your back seat. It could be a person, a murderer, or some crazy monster. in reality it is just glare, reflection, and shadows from the light above you, or at a strange angle. After that they all were mad at me and often turn there rearview mirrors away from them now at night!

Ok let me try to explain this, its a bit strang.

First off, they have found 11 dimentions with the use of M Threory, apparently that has expanded to almost countless dimentions or "membrane" hence "M theory" which have been mathematically proven to explain such things like gravity which could never been explained before.

Mathematically proven threory. Well, it fits with math, but it is still only a theory but beyong a hypothesis.

anyways, im side tracking.

People percieve things in 4 dimentions and 4 dimentions only. That is the X,Y,Z axis and Time. We very much DO live in ALL dimentions, but only percieve 4, which is all we need to be able to navigate through existance and make sence of things.
Humans percieve things in a 3 dimentional chronological order simple as an adaptation to our enviornment. We dont really need to see the other dimentions.

So, TIME and SPACE are NOT an absolute as our perception tells us, they are simply a tool we use to survive and navigate.

So, if time and space are not absolute? then there really is no difference between here or there, or now and then. Everything is everywhere, and everything happens all the time.

If our brains are clever enough to put an order into the 4 dimentions, what happens if the brain ****s up on the perception? What if by some unknown reason the brain glitches and does not reguister a marker for the time dimention, but does so for the other 3 dimentions?

At that point what you have is an even that has no real time anchored to it to move it to the past, so if it has no time anchor then it always and never happens, and sometimes the even might get close enough to the XYZ dimentions to actually influence them.

This allows people who might find themselves in the same XYZ as this non chronologically specific event to witness the same event that happened 10 years ago. Not really so much as a "replay" but the SAME actual event, as it is happening 10 years ago when it first happened, is still occurring and can still be percieved today because without the time marker or anchor to pull it away in the past there is nothing to stop that even from happening constantly all the time. It may never go away, and that area will basically be contaminated with and event that has no specific time tied to it so it can appear and disappear without notice.

like i said though, it is not really so much of a replay, that was a poor choice of words in the last post, it IS the SAME event happening as it happened back when the event actually occurred.

Be it a whisper, a feeling of cold, or fear, or a rape, or a warm comforting feeling.



make sence now?

wait, what do you drive again?

LOL No mongoose for joo...

LMAO Well I would sell it to you very cheap :)

dude you have some crazy threads lately, but honestly they are some of the most interesting one's and probably the only ones i read completely anymore...good entertainment...haha

if that's case, then why doesnt everything thats already happened, happen again?

if that's case, then why doesnt everything thats already happened, happen again?

Damn it just did LMFAO