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customstang 02-19-2006 06:08 PM

Opinion - What's the best way?
 
I'm kinda stuck here trying to decide what to do with my Mustang...

I am thinking about getting a new Mustang GT, but I'm also thinking about building up my car...

Options:

I could buy an '05 Mustang GT with less than say 20,000 miles or so, and when it's paid off, buy a supercharger for it. Only problem is if I'm going to spend that much I want a new car, I'm just don't like the idea of not knowing who/how it's been driven... Did they red line it at every shift and grind the gears? Is the engine gonna blow up in another 5,000 miles?

I could also buy a brand new Mustang GT and know that it's in perfect condition with a new warranty, but I wouldn't have any money to mod it, plus I would lose quite a bit of value just by driving it off the lot (depreciation). This would probably be the slowest of the options, since it would be a stock car with "only" 300hp. (Wouldn't have any money for mods)

Yet another option would be to buy a 2000-2002 Mustang GT and if it has high mileage, rebuild the engine and put a supercharger on it. Bad part would be the higher insurance for a GT when I could spend a little bit more on insurance for a new GT. Also, alot of parts are going to need replacing if the car is closing in on 75,000-100,000 miles. I don't know that I want to spend alot of money on the engine if I'm gonna have high maintanance costs.

Last would be modifying my current V6 and either:

Rebuild the motor with performance parts and supercharge it. I'm sure I could get well over 300hp with enough money into the engine. Plus it's lighter. But I would have to replace tranny and differential etc to handle the power. The only thing I wouldn't like is the fact that it's still powered by a V6. In my opinion the Mustang is a muscle car that should have v8 power. Plus I dont know how good dual exhaust would sound on a V6 even if it is putting out lots of power.

OR

Swap in a 4.6l Cobra 3v (320hp) and tranny and stuff, probably around $10K by the time I'm done. A lot of work, but cheap insurance (charged for a V6 Mustang) and I would have a car that's built just how I want it, but everything that I don't replace will still have almost 100,000 miles on it.

So what do you guys think is the smartest route, spend $10K on a used car that will have more power than a new stock one, or use the money to buy a new car that has plenty of power but not as much as I could have?

Lances03SVT 02-19-2006 06:53 PM

Just buy a 03/04 Cobra or a Mach 1.

FritoBandito 02-20-2006 06:54 AM

I'd rather have a 99-04 supercharged than a new 05/06 gt. Whatever you do, start with a gt, not a sixer, nothing against em, but you get a lot more car with a gt.

DarkSith 02-20-2006 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Lances03GT
Just buy a 03/04 Cobra or a Mach 1.

What he said.

DarkShadow04 02-20-2006 08:46 AM

buy a gt thats what ima gonna do maybe or swap that would be very difficult or buy a wrecked 01 cobra thats not that hard

customstang 02-20-2006 09:46 AM

Well good news!

I just found out that our insurance plan doesnt care which engine a car has, so the V6 Mustang and Mustang GT are the same price :punk: :banana:

So I'll almost certainly be getting a GT (Cobra Mustangs are considered different and are way more expensive, not going that route). I like the new body style so that's why I want an 05 or 06. If I get a used one I might have money to modify it, but idk.

Only reason I'd build up my current car is just for experience and fun, but I don't know that I'll have enough time. So I'll probably end up buying a newer car.

Does anyone know how to get major power gains out of the new Mustangs? What's the most cost efficient? I'd like to stay away from superchargers, wanna stay n/a. If anyone knows anything about building up and engine let me know!

white98gt 02-23-2006 09:52 PM

what insurance do you have?

jeredan2003 02-24-2006 06:45 AM

Forget any other car! All you ever want is in the 03/04 Cobra.

A cobra has MUCH more potential for power. It has a fully forged engine that will handle 800rwhp. If you buy an 05 with a blower, you can only run about 430ish horsepower before you blow the engine.

Forget about the other mustangs. You want the 03 cobra trust me.

jeredan2003 02-24-2006 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by customstang
Well good news!

I just found out that our insurance plan doesnt care which engine a car has, so the V6 Mustang and Mustang GT are the same price :punk: :banana:

So I'll almost certainly be getting a GT (Cobra Mustangs are considered different and are way more expensive, not going that route). I like the new body style so that's why I want an 05 or 06. If I get a used one I might have money to modify it, but idk.

Only reason I'd build up my current car is just for experience and fun, but I don't know that I'll have enough time. So I'll probably end up buying a newer car.

Does anyone know how to get major power gains out of the new Mustangs? What's the most cost efficient? I'd like to stay away from superchargers, wanna stay n/a. If anyone knows anything about building up and engine let me know!

Oh my goodness you would rather have a N/A mustang GT rather than a supercharged one? Sounds like you dont know much about mustangs. A supercharger is a good thing. Dont be scared of them!

Down the road you will find yourself trying to put TONS of bolt ons when you could have just bought a blower in the first place. Bolt ons will not make you happy if you want to beat fast cars. Newer N/A mustangs are not near as fast as an 03 Cobra.

Im just saying that if you buy an N/A mustang looking for big power, your gonna be sadly disappointed.

jjtgiants 02-24-2006 10:56 AM

Yeah what insurance do you have cause my insurance jumped up $15 a month when I got rid of my GT and got the Mach 1?? I agree with Lance....get an 03/04 cobra or a Mach 1. Don't be fooled by the Mach 1's 310hp.....I've seen a dude with Nitto DR's and Mac Prochamber run a 12.5 1/4 mile....that's blazing fast.

CCM 02-24-2006 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants
Yeah what insurance do you have cause my insurance jumped up $15 a month when I got rid of my GT and got the Mach 1?? I agree with Lance....get an 03/04 cobra or a Mach 1. Don't be fooled by the Mach 1's 310hp.....I've seen a dude with Nitto DR's and Mac Prochamber run a 12.5 1/4 mile....that's blazing fast.

I've seen that video too, it's SOOO badass! I love Mach 1's.

Rob97GT 02-28-2006 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by Lances03GT
Just buy a 03/04 Cobra or a Mach 1.

I agree, cheaper than the 05+

r3dn3ck 02-28-2006 05:11 PM

Try to take this the right way... I mean it in a nice way.

Why not do nothing and wait till you grow a little, get a little more financially stable and then go get your toy. I waited until I was almost 30 to get my first brand new stang for that very reason. When I could afford to put gas in it and insure it and make the payments and still have enough left for mods, then it was time. I'm assuming that you're young. If not, well wait till you make more money cuz it's clearly an issue.

Showing maturity and waiting till you can actually afford the option you really want is the smartest thing to do.

Now, keep your 6er. Go get a 8.8 from craigslist and bolt that bad boy in. Next get another V6 motor (may I suggest a 4.2L) and poke and stroke it till the displacement is where you want it, then use all that extra room you have up front to put in a wicked twin turbo kit with a pair of T04's pushing like 18psi or so. Have the heads hogged out and a really aggressive cam ground for you and you'll be sh!ttin in tall cotton so to speak. If you set up the turbos correctly you should be in boost just off idle and spankin the hell out of us GT pilots. Even cobras will have to worry about your 60' times.

If I had it to do over again, I'd have gotten a 500 dollar fox v6 and just gone hog wild on it slapping on V8 and turbo parts. At one time I had a GNX that was so pug strong that itd actually crease the roof if I took off too hard. Subframes fixed that but damn, what a turbo 6 can do.

customstang 02-28-2006 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by white98gt
what insurance do you have?

We have a fleet policy because my family has 5 ford trucks + my stang + all of our farm tractors and semis (we farm)

so they dont care about a V6/GT just the Cobras and stuff

customstang 02-28-2006 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by jeredan2003
Oh my goodness you would rather have a N/A mustang GT rather than a supercharged one? Sounds like you dont know much about mustangs. A supercharger is a good thing. Dont be scared of them!

Down the road you will find yourself trying to put TONS of bolt ons when you could have just bought a blower in the first place. Bolt ons will not make you happy if you want to beat fast cars. Newer N/A mustangs are not near as fast as an 03 Cobra.

Im just saying that if you buy an N/A mustang looking for big power, your gonna be sadly disappointed.

I'm not afraid of superchargers... yes they are a good thing! $6500 and you have all the power your engine can handle just by changing pulleys. A supercharger would be fun. But someday when I have the money I want to make it kinda like an old muscle car, just a really powerful n/a engine. I just think that building up an engine would be more fun and I'd learn alot more from it.

customstang 02-28-2006 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
Try to take this the right way... I mean it in a nice way.

Why not do nothing and wait till you grow a little, get a little more financially stable and then go get your toy. I waited until I was almost 30 to get my first brand new stang for that very reason. When I could afford to put gas in it and insure it and make the payments and still have enough left for mods, then it was time. I'm assuming that you're young. If not, well wait till you make more money cuz it's clearly an issue.

Showing maturity and waiting till you can actually afford the option you really want is the smartest thing to do.

Now, keep your 6er. Go get a 8.8 from craigslist and bolt that bad boy in. Next get another V6 motor (may I suggest a 4.2L) and poke and stroke it till the displacement is where you want it, then use all that extra room you have up front to put in a wicked twin turbo kit with a pair of T04's pushing like 18psi or so. Have the heads hogged out and a really aggressive cam ground for you and you'll be sh!ttin in tall cotton so to speak. If you set up the turbos correctly you should be in boost just off idle and spankin the hell out of us GT pilots. Even cobras will have to worry about your 60' times.

If I had it to do over again, I'd have gotten a 500 dollar fox v6 and just gone hog wild on it slapping on V8 and turbo parts. At one time I had a GNX that was so pug strong that itd actually crease the roof if I took off too hard. Subframes fixed that but damn, what a turbo 6 can do.

Dont worry, I didn't take it in a bad way. Yes I'm young and I understand it would be smarter financially to wait to buy a new car. I can have it paid for with a 24 or 36 month loan, I'll just have to make sacrifices. But it's something I'm willing to do because I really want to have a nice car and ten years down the road, it won't be a big deal that I spent an extra 10 grand on a new car instead of building up a used one. Hopefully after college I'll be making enough money to easily afford a nice car. But I'm gonna live like there's no tomorrow cuz life's too short (long story). I'm gonna have as much fun as I can while I'm a kid.

I thought about building up my car but my brother put over 15 grand into an old rusty f-250 and made it into the nicest truck in the county. well he totaled it and the insurance company said it was worth 2 grand. so he bought it back and fixed it up again. It's just not worth it if you crash (and everyone makes a mistake sometime). Atleast with a new car I'll get some of the value back.

Working around my bro while he was fixing up his truck i know it would be great fun to redo an older vehicle, after college I want to redo our 1980 f-250, most of us just dont have the cash to do everything. Just gotta make sacrifices for what you want.

GT4DUMMIES 02-28-2006 09:41 PM

OMG - GEt on the SHORT BUS!
 
You guys are stupid... geez - swap in a built motor and built tranny and suspension - by far the SMARTEST way to go- hell uve already got the car - if u buy a GT then you have to do all the same stuff anyway - why waste the time and money - if want to build a supercharged car worth a damn ur gonna have replace everything on the GT - so why do it to the v-6 u already own - THIS IS NOT THAT COMPLICATED - JEEZY FREAKIN CHRIZY - what is going through some of yall's head - and no not a 03/04 cobra becuase ull still have to do all the same stuff and pay a hell of alot more - when u can build ur GT motor to hold 1000hp for 3000 installed in most cases -!!!! :censored:


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