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WNRacing

03-30-2009 01:58 PM

Anyone Recommend......

Any particular clutch quadrant? I've looked at the MM version, but it has no adjustability plus the fact that you HAVE to buy the "firewall adjuster" separately..

http://www.maximummotorsports.com/st...roducts_id=503

I like the look of the UPR triple hook quadrent, good adjustability without having the firewall adjuster

http://www.uprproducts.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=509

I don't particularly have anything against the firewall adjuster, but when I had one on my V6, I just really couldn't feel any difference when I would adjust it.. Just seemed kind of like a pointless accessory.

WNRacing

03-30-2009 02:06 PM

While I'm at it..

I may as well throw the Steeda's into the mix as well..

Steeda "Quick Release."
http://www.americanmuscle.com/stqureclqu.html

Steeda "Double Hook."
http://www.americanmuscle.com/stdohoqu.html

bassman97

03-30-2009 02:34 PM

The reason why you felt no difference was that the quadrant was probably stock, and the stock one is self-adjusting. The hooks though on the non-MM ones are pointless. If the adjuster doesn't take up the slack in the cable, you have issues, other than needing a multi-hook quadrant (or if you used an ill-fitting aftermarket adjustable cable). Remember, those other quadrants still need a way to adjust the cable (whether it's an adjustable cable or firewall adjuster).

Stick w/ the MM piece w/ the stock cable and the firewall adjuster.

bossman302

03-30-2009 03:22 PM

I have the MM quadrant and firewall adjuster. Works great. They both go hand in hand with each other just like bassman97 said.

BikerSk8rKid

03-30-2009 04:23 PM

What about the "Steeda "Double Hook", that has pictures and a good comment on it. LoL

What does this do for you anyways?

01FR500

03-30-2009 04:37 PM

I bought this a kit that came with the steeda firewall adjuster and quadrant and the MM clutch pedal adjuster and it really improved the shifts. I would have rather had all MM parts but whatever, this worked out for me.

http://www.stangsuspension.com/store...?idproduct=300

spike_africa

03-30-2009 04:57 PM

I have the Steeda setup minus their shitty cable (stock cable FTW) and its nice, but if I had to do it again I would of gotten the quick release one instead of my double hook setup. Regardless its nice once you get it dialed in to what setting you like. Install is not bad either with a quadrant and firewall adjuster.

WNRacing

03-30-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 395225)

I had the Steeda double hook kit with the firewall adjuster and a spec stage 2 on my sixxer.

spike_africa

03-30-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 395288)

I had the Steeda double hook kit with the firewall adjuster and a spec stage 2 on my sixxer.

Thats the exact setup I have right now. Why the hell did you have that clutch on a v6.

WNRacing

03-30-2009 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 395289)

Thats the exact setup I have right now. Why the hell did you have that clutch on a v6.

The SPEC II was really just an uninformed decision, it was a great clutch, but pretty harsh for everyday use. It was also on sale for a really good price back when I got it.

bassman97

03-31-2009 04:14 AM

That's strange but the clutch probably had something to do w/ it since that's a bit grippy for a six-banger.

Also, I'd stay away from the quick release one since your left leg will probably curse you out and you probably will need to find a way to shorten the travel. Otherwise, you will overstroke the pressure plate.

WNRacing

03-31-2009 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 395453)

The Mustang has a King Cobra clutch in it, so it's already pretty heavy, but the travel in the pedal is horrible.. You've got to push the pedal all the way to the floor to make anything happen, especially at the track.. I scratched 2nd at least 3 times on sunday and that slowed me down considerably.

So, basically I've got a rec. on the MM & Steeda kit.. Anyone else?

BTW: IDK if you know or not, but the Mustang isn't my DD.

bossman302

03-31-2009 07:26 AM

Whichever one you decide to get, get the firewall adjuster as well. Since the stock quadrate is self adjusting and the aftermarket ones are not, if your clutch cable stretches or your clutch wears down your pedal will get sloppy. You will then be able to adjust it with the firewall adjuster. Plus you will already have everything apart so it will be a perfect time to install it.

WNRacing

03-31-2009 05:45 PM

Oh, btw.. I forgot, I also had the adjustable pedal stop..

WNRacing

03-31-2009 06:36 PM

Well, I ordered the Steeda "Quick Release" quadrant and the firewall adjuster. Hopefully I'll get it by Friday and have some time to install it this weekend. Probably will get the pedal stop at some point as well as a new cable, but that will have to wait for a week or two.

blownstang

03-31-2009 08:49 PM

I have the Fiore quadrant and firewall adjuster. I've heard good things about the MM adjuster and quadrant. Fiore is top notch quality.

bassman97

03-31-2009 09:16 PM

Make sure w/ that quadrant you make sure the amount of travel (not pedal but TOB travel) is the same as stock. You don't want the TOB to move more than stock. Also, be prepared for a stiffer pedal.

WNRacing

04-01-2009 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 396006)

Make sure w/ that quadrant you make sure the amount of travel (not pedal but TOB travel) is the same as stock. You don't want the TOB to move more than stock. Also, be prepared for a stiffer pedal.

How exactly would you measure the amount that the TOB moves? I mean, I assume that the actual travel in the pedal will be significantly reduced.. How much is "too much?" As it sits I'm having to put the clutch pedal on the floor to get it into 2nd at WOT, needless to say my shift time is incredibly slow.

BTW: The car has a King Cobra clutch in it.. lol So it's already fairly heavy.

bassman97

04-01-2009 11:13 AM

Measure the amount of travel in the cable. Since the only geometric change is the quadrant, only the pedal travel is affected but the cable travel should remain the same. You don't want the cable to travel too much further (if at all more) than stock otherwise you over stroke the PP. Also, you combining stiff w/ stiffer. You are going to make the Govenator jealous of your left calf.

WNRacing

04-01-2009 07:44 PM

Does anyone know if the quick release kit needs the nylon/billett spacers, or if it comes with them? I know that the double hook version comes with them. I called Steeda and AM today and got shaky answers from both places. Anyone?

This is what I'm talking about..

http://www.steeda.com/products/steed...ant_spacer.php

bassman97

04-01-2009 08:02 PM

Unless they made the attachment point thicker, you will need a spacer. However, though the MM way is cheap, you can just do what they do and use washers. The benefit of that way is the ability to adjust the quadrant's side-to-side position.

spike_africa

04-01-2009 08:06 PM

It should come with them like mine did.

WNRacing

04-01-2009 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 396502)

It should come with them like mine did.

Hmm, ok, well I guess I'll just wait and see if it comes with it. The steeda website specifically says that the kit comes with the double hook setup, but says nothing about the quick release. I called Steeda and asked if it needs it, and the guy said no, but he didn't sound real sure of himself.

I guess if it comes down to it I can just go to the hardware store and pick up some washers.

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