Induction Problems!! Please Help!!

cuba0555 · 04-17-2008, 04:03 PM

I bought a BBK induction kit for my 2007 V6 Stang followed all the instruction and even used a higher grade of gas. But for some reason I keep getting the check engine light. I called BBK to see if they can help me. They told me that I might have use the updated pipes. So they sent me a new one free of charge. But when it came it was the same pipe!! So of course I still get the light. So my question is does anyone have the same problems. If so did you find a way to solve it. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thank You!!!!

Mr. Zip · 04-17-2008, 04:32 PM

Did you try disconnecting the negative battery cable? That will reset the computer, and might get rid of the light. That's the best advice I've got, and I'm sure you'll get better. :]

cuba0555 · 04-17-2008, 04:34 PM

yes i did!!

Dave04Mustang · 04-17-2008, 04:36 PM

its because the 05+ need a tune when installing a CAI

cuba0555 · 04-17-2008, 04:39 PM

I followed the instructions to the T, I was even told to disconnect the battery over night and the light was off for a few minites and then went on!!

!! Dam this light !!

cuba0555 · 04-17-2008, 04:40 PM

I was told that if i did the tune I will still get the light.

Dave04Mustang · 04-17-2008, 04:42 PM

no the light goes off when you get a tune. Who did you buy it from most places tell you this before you buy the intakes. The pre 05 stangs didn't need it because the computer wasn't as picky but with the newer stangs little things set off the computer

cuba0555 · 04-17-2008, 04:45 PM

So I can still have the kit on and later get the tune. I was hoping to do a few things before I did the tune.

cuba0555 · 04-17-2008, 04:48 PM

BBK told me that even the newer stangs will not need any kind of tune with their kits.

Dave04Mustang · 04-17-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cuba0555

BBK told me that even the newer stangs will not need any kind a tune with their kits.

alright well I don't know what to tell you then. I guess make sure everything is tightly fastened but it has nothing to do with the gas your putting in. If you take it to a place like autozone they can scan the code for you to find out what the error is. If this just happened after you installed the intake though and BBK says you don't need a tune then I would have to say its not fastened all the way and check the MAF hopefully you didn't touch the wire

zigzagg321 · 04-17-2008, 04:58 PM

needs a tune. or has an air leak.

cuba0555 · 04-17-2008, 05:06 PM

I did take it to Auto Zone and did the scan. They told me that the fuel was to lean. To get injector cleaners and to put higher grade gas.

cuba0555 · 04-17-2008, 05:09 PM

I put the stock intake back to see if it was in fact the MAF. No light!!! So that is when I posted this thread to see if it was an installation error on my part.

Dave04Mustang · 04-17-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cuba0555

I did take it to Auto Zone and did the scan. They told me that the fuel was to lean. To get injector cleaners and to put higher grade gas.

I still think its weird bbk says no tune because the code just supports that it needs one. There is more air being taken in than the computer thinks is reasonable so it throws the running lean. If the autozone guys told you to put in a higher grade of gas don't listen to them that guy most have been on another world. Only put the octane that the car is rated so a V6 should have standard 87, only put premium in the car if its tuned for premium

cuba0555 · 04-17-2008, 05:17 PM

Thank you Dave04Mustang I just might need to do the tune. But will the car be fine if I put the kit back on and not do the tune.

Dave04Mustang · 04-17-2008, 05:19 PM

i would hold off its not good for the engine to be running lean

cuba0555 · 04-17-2008, 05:21 PM

Do I need to buy a tuner or is there a place that can do it for you.

Dave04Mustang · 04-17-2008, 05:22 PM

you need to buy them. Mine is from Justin over at http://vmptuning.com I would try installing yours 1 more time though and just make sure there aren't any leaks and everything is tight

crzypny232 · 04-17-2008, 06:45 PM

The computers in mustangs after 2005 are much more sensitive. What is happening is your computer is sensing that there is more airflow into the intake via your MAF. The pre 2005 mustang computers also sense this and adjust to keep the air-fuel ratio in an acceptable range. The 2005 and up computers do not make the same adjustment. The autozone diagnostic was 100% right because you have more air but not more gas so your 02 sensors are reading a leaner mixture. Regardless of what BBK says you need a tune or the car just wont run right. Also, cleaning the injectors is never a bad idea but you don't need new ones. Even though it may appear to be ok driving the car with the intake on and a lean mixture may in fact hurt the car. Just piggy-backing on what Dave04Mustang said, only run the gas that the care is rated for without a tune. It may not be noticeable but by running a higher octane, the engine may actually ping and in some cases, misfire. This can be very damaging to the car and with no performance gains, a HUGE waste of money at the pump. Funny how the guy at Autozone completely missed that whole thing though. I think that if you want a job there, you need to pass a test on how a car works.

1. The thin pedal on the right is the
a. gas
b. brake

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cuba0555 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	Induction Problems!! Please Help!! I bought a BBK induction kit for my 2007 V6 Stang followed all the instruction and even used a higher grade of gas. But for some reason I keep getting the check engine light. I called BBK to see if they can help me. They told me that I might have use the updated pipes. So they sent me a new one free of charge. But when it came it was the same pipe!! So of course I still get the light. So my question is does anyone have the same problems. If so did you find a way to solve it. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thank You!!!!

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04-17-2008, 04:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr. Zip Stuck in a Sixer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Longview, Texas Posts: 222	Did you try disconnecting the negative battery cable? That will reset the computer, and might get rid of the light. That's the best advice I've got, and I'm sure you'll get better. :]

04-17-2008, 04:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
cuba0555 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	yes i did!!

04-17-2008, 04:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
cuba0555 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	I followed the instructions to the T, I was even told to disconnect the battery over night and the light was off for a few minites and then went on!! !! Dam this light !!

04-17-2008, 04:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
cuba0555 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	I was told that if i did the tune I will still get the light.

04-17-2008, 04:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
cuba0555 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	So I can still have the kit on and later get the tune. I was hoping to do a few things before I did the tune.

04-17-2008, 05:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
cuba0555 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	I did take it to Auto Zone and did the scan. They told me that the fuel was to lean. To get injector cleaners and to put higher grade gas.

04-17-2008, 05:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
cuba0555 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	I put the stock intake back to see if it was in fact the MAF. No light!!! So that is when I posted this thread to see if it was an installation error on my part.

04-17-2008, 05:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
cuba0555 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	Thank you Dave04Mustang I just might need to do the tune. But will the car be fine if I put the kit back on and not do the tune.

04-17-2008, 05:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
cuba0555 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	Do I need to buy a tuner or is there a place that can do it for you.

04-17-2008, 06:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
crzypny232 Licensed Pony Tuner Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 90	The computers in mustangs after 2005 are much more sensitive. What is happening is your computer is sensing that there is more airflow into the intake via your MAF. The pre 2005 mustang computers also sense this and adjust to keep the air-fuel ratio in an acceptable range. The 2005 and up computers do not make the same adjustment. The autozone diagnostic was 100% right because you have more air but not more gas so your 02 sensors are reading a leaner mixture. Regardless of what BBK says you need a tune or the car just wont run right. Also, cleaning the injectors is never a bad idea but you don't need new ones. Even though it may appear to be ok driving the car with the intake on and a lean mixture may in fact hurt the car. Just piggy-backing on what Dave04Mustang said, only run the gas that the care is rated for without a tune. It may not be noticeable but by running a higher octane, the engine may actually ping and in some cases, misfire. This can be very damaging to the car and with no performance gains, a HUGE waste of money at the pump. Funny how the guy at Autozone completely missed that whole thing though. I think that if you want a job there, you need to pass a test on how a car works. 1. The thin pedal on the right is the a. gas b. brake