Bullitt Suspension Package v. Eibach/H&R

herndy_1 · 07-16-2006, 08:46 AM

Ok, after getting my wheels on, suspension is next on my list of to-do's. First of all, I don't race or anything like that, so I don't really need adjustables or anything of that sort. I have looked at both the complete Bullitt Tokico package (struts, shocks, springs, swaybars), and I have looked at just simply Eibach and H&R Springs. Any info/suggestions you guys have for me as far as drop/performance/results for the $$? What would you guys suggest doing?

Also, what about installs? I think I could get the springs in with a friend, but what about the Bullitt package?

07-16-2006, 08:56 AM

i am looking at similar choices...hope we get some ppl that have tried both.

spike_africa · 07-16-2006, 09:01 AM

I have mach1/bullitt springs and while it is lower then stock hair under 1" in the back and only 3/4" in the front i like it alot. For me i cant go to low as i drive to N.C. and our road to the cabin is very steep and rocky.

07-16-2006, 09:55 AM

did you get the whole Bullitt spring/shock/swaybars combo? If so...is there a big difference in handling? Right now Im leaning towards the "starter box" from MM....only problem is that is comes with H&R "Race" springs...maybe they can swap them out of the kit. Seems a bit strange for the "starter" package to have such an agressive spring with it.

herndy_1 · 07-16-2006, 12:28 PM

zigzagg, give me a link to that starter box from MM. I might look into that.

07-16-2006, 12:33 PM

http://www.maximummotorsports.com

here is the link to the site...it wouldnt give me the url for the actual page...all the address said no matter what page i was on in the site was the mail url to the site. Its real easy to find though....go to the packaged suspension section and its clearly labeled "starter box" I just hope they can substitute h&r supersports for the "race" ones in the package. Good deal for what you get IMO.

herndy_1 · 07-16-2006, 04:16 PM

Damn, thats a lot more $$ than i was expecting. Have u checked out the Bullitt tokico packages? They run for around $400. Basically the only thing im not for sure about is how low the Bullitt is going to drop me (I'm afraid it might not be enough). I guess the Bullitt doesn't come with CC plates either.

07-16-2006, 04:20 PM

yeah the bullitt kit is cheap for what you get....but...no CC plates and not getting H&R springs OR Bilstein shocks/struts....thats how i see it. If MM will give me the SS springs and not the Race ones...that kits my next weekend project.

the Bullitt kit is supposed to be a 3/4 inch drop i think....not enough for me.

*03gtmustang* · 07-16-2006, 04:50 PM

The Bullitt springs dont really give you much of a drop. IMO sway bars arent really worth it unless you autocross. Id get the Eibach pro kit or Steeds Sport springs and eventually Mach 1 shocks and struts.

spike_africa · 07-16-2006, 04:57 PM

i got just the mach1/Bullit springs. I dont plan to swap sway bars, but i will do new shocks and struts some time soon.

the handling is good for now it handles better then stock with about the same ride quality which is great for me. I was just looking for something to lower the car a hair while not killing my weight transfer. So these were the springs of choice for me.

herndy_1 · 07-16-2006, 05:41 PM

How much do the mach shocks and struts usually run?

*03gtmustang* · 07-16-2006, 06:44 PM

Well they are made by Tokico.

07-16-2006, 06:57 PM

Im still real curious about the Bilstein BTS system for our cars...less than 750.00 dollars for Bilstein shocks, struts and Bilstein lowering springs. Hell, i didnt even know that Bilstein made springs before I saw their BTS system. Bilstein makes tyop notch stuff, but I havent heard anything about their springs.

WaterDR · 07-16-2006, 08:02 PM

I have the entire Bullitt package on my car including the sway bars. I bought the entire kit for $300 in the box. It was too good of a deal to pass up. I did nto want to lower it much, and with 60k plus on the odo, I needed to freshen it up. The handling was noticeably better, but I also had some miles on my old, sock setup.

07-16-2006, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!

I have the entire Bullitt package on my car including the sway bars. I bought the entire kit for $300 in the box. It was too good of a deal to pass up. I did nto want to lower it much, and with 60k plus on the odo, I needed to freshen it up. The handling was noticeably better, but I also had some miles on my old, sock setup.

only 300 bucks!! where did you find that deal?

NoKturnaL · 07-16-2006, 08:45 PM

The Eibach Pro-System works for meeeeeeeee

Eibach Springs 1.5" all around
Eibach Struts n shoks
Cornering is a bit better. Stock ride feel..just a Lilttle stiffer.

www.stangsuspension.com

herndy_1 · 07-16-2006, 08:48 PM

Could I maybe get some pictures of the Bullitt package? TIA.

NoKturnaL · 07-16-2006, 08:53 PM

the Bullittt pack isnt worth it.....Barley any noticable drop if u ask me.

07-16-2006, 08:53 PM

I have searched a bunch....cant find a review of the Bilstein BTS system on a mustang....anyone else?

WaterDR · 07-16-2006, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zigzagg321

only 300 bucks!! where did you find that deal?

CJ Pony! It was a special deal as they had taken it to a show and did not want to send it back.

WaterDR · 07-16-2006, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoKturnaL

the Bullittt pack isnt worth it.....Barley any noticable drop if u ask me.

How can you say it's not worth it? You get shocks, struts, springs, and sway bars for what $400. Not worth it? It is the deal of the century when it comes to replacing nearly an entire suspension system.

Now, it may not be for you, but it is certainly worth it. You may get less then a 1" drop, but it is still a great deal.

herndy_1 · 07-17-2006, 07:14 AM

Well lets see, $400 for an entire suspension. I could get some different springs later if I wanted more drop, and even if I had to get CC Plates, that would add about $350 for a grand total of $750. Not to mention if I sold the Bullitt springs. Anyone else wanna find a better deal?

Anyone have pictures of the Bullitt suspension they could maybe post? Please?

Finally, I know it seems like the cheap way out, but what about just getting lowering springs (maybe CC plates). I do however have 50 grand on my stock suspension, so I figure I would probably benefit more from the Bullitt?

*Lances03SVT* · 07-17-2006, 07:27 AM

I have just H&R sport's and love them.No CC plates needed either.

spike_africa · 07-17-2006, 09:05 AM

The kinda person who would go with the bullit kit is more like someone who wants to keep a car with good springs weights for the drag strip still, But wants to lower the car down some without going so low that they cant make it up there driveway,road etc...

Sounds to me like you just want to lower it down some for looks. You should look at the steeda sport springs they drop it 1.25" and need no c.c. plates and ride pretty nice with a slightly firmer ride feel. I have seen them sell used for as little as 70bucks.

Then get some shocks and struts and your good to go.

herndy_1 · 07-17-2006, 10:46 AM

if i got just springs, wouldn't the ride be pretty rough with my suspension having 50,000 miles on it?

*Lances03SVT* · 07-17-2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herndy_1

if i got just springs, wouldn't the ride be pretty rough with my suspension having 50,000 miles on it?

Yea it might be.Just get the spring's and the Mach 1 strut's and shock's and then your set

07-16-2006, 08:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
herndy_1 Red Six Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 559	Bullitt Suspension Package v. Eibach/H&R Ok, after getting my wheels on, suspension is next on my list of to-do's. First of all, I don't race or anything like that, so I don't really need adjustables or anything of that sort. I have looked at both the complete Bullitt Tokico package (struts, shocks, springs, swaybars), and I have looked at just simply Eibach and H&R Springs. Any info/suggestions you guys have for me as far as drop/performance/results for the $$? What would you guys suggest doing? Also, what about installs? I think I could get the springs in with a friend, but what about the Bullitt package? __________________

07-16-2006, 09:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,445	I have mach1/bullitt springs and while it is lower then stock hair under 1" in the back and only 3/4" in the front i like it alot. For me i cant go to low as i drive to N.C. and our road to the cabin is very steep and rocky. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

07-16-2006, 12:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
herndy_1 Red Six Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 559	zigzagg, give me a link to that starter box from MM. I might look into that. __________________

07-16-2006, 04:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
herndy_1 Red Six Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 559	Damn, thats a lot more $$ than i was expecting. Have u checked out the Bullitt tokico packages? They run for around $400. Basically the only thing im not for sure about is how low the Bullitt is going to drop me (I'm afraid it might not be enough). I guess the Bullitt doesn't come with CC plates either. __________________

07-16-2006, 04:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,247	The Bullitt springs dont really give you much of a drop. IMO sway bars arent really worth it unless you autocross. Id get the Eibach pro kit or Steeds Sport springs and eventually Mach 1 shocks and struts. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

07-16-2006, 08:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
zigzaggthefag321 Posts: n/a	i am looking at similar choices...hope we get some ppl that have tried both.

07-16-2006, 09:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
zigzaggthefag321 Posts: n/a	did you get the whole Bullitt spring/shock/swaybars combo? If so...is there a big difference in handling? Right now Im leaning towards the "starter box" from MM....only problem is that is comes with H&R "Race" springs...maybe they can swap them out of the kit. Seems a bit strange for the "starter" package to have such an agressive spring with it.

07-16-2006, 12:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
zigzaggthefag321 Posts: n/a	http://www.maximummotorsports.com here is the link to the site...it wouldnt give me the url for the actual page...all the address said no matter what page i was on in the site was the mail url to the site. Its real easy to find though....go to the packaged suspension section and its clearly labeled "starter box" I just hope they can substitute h&r supersports for the "race" ones in the package. Good deal for what you get IMO.

07-16-2006, 04:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
zigzaggthefag321 Posts: n/a	yeah the bullitt kit is cheap for what you get....but...no CC plates and not getting H&R springs OR Bilstein shocks/struts....thats how i see it. If MM will give me the SS springs and not the Race ones...that kits my next weekend project. the Bullitt kit is supposed to be a 3/4 inch drop i think....not enough for me.

07-16-2006, 04:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,445	i got just the mach1/Bullit springs. I dont plan to swap sway bars, but i will do new shocks and struts some time soon. the handling is good for now it handles better then stock with about the same ride quality which is great for me. I was just looking for something to lower the car a hair while not killing my weight transfer. So these were the springs of choice for me. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

07-16-2006, 05:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
herndy_1 Red Six Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 559	How much do the mach shocks and struts usually run? __________________

07-16-2006, 06:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,247	Well they are made by Tokico. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

07-16-2006, 06:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
zigzaggthefag321 Posts: n/a	Im still real curious about the Bilstein BTS system for our cars...less than 750.00 dollars for Bilstein shocks, struts and Bilstein lowering springs. Hell, i didnt even know that Bilstein made springs before I saw their BTS system. Bilstein makes tyop notch stuff, but I havent heard anything about their springs.

07-16-2006, 08:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,374	I have the entire Bullitt package on my car including the sway bars. I bought the entire kit for $300 in the box. It was too good of a deal to pass up. I did nto want to lower it much, and with 60k plus on the odo, I needed to freshen it up. The handling was noticeably better, but I also had some miles on my old, sock setup. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

07-16-2006, 08:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
NoKturnaL MustangTuning 5-oh Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Peabody, MA Posts: 1,950	The Eibach Pro-System works for meeeeeeeee Eibach Springs 1.5" all around Eibach Struts n shoks Cornering is a bit better. Stock ride feel..just a Lilttle stiffer. www.stangsuspension.com __________________ 2002 Mustang GT Coupe 5-Speed Performance K&N Intake Accufab upper Intake Plenum Accufab 70mm Throttle Body Steeda Pullies SCT 4-Bank Chip Dyno Tuned Mac H-pipe Flowmaster Cat-Back Steeda Shifter Centerforce Clutch SLP-Line-Lock And more upgrades visually

07-16-2006, 08:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
herndy_1 Red Six Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 559	Could I maybe get some pictures of the Bullitt package? TIA. __________________

07-16-2006, 08:53 PM	#18 (permalink)
NoKturnaL MustangTuning 5-oh Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Peabody, MA Posts: 1,950	the Bullittt pack isnt worth it.....Barley any noticable drop if u ask me. __________________ 2002 Mustang GT Coupe 5-Speed Performance K&N Intake Accufab upper Intake Plenum Accufab 70mm Throttle Body Steeda Pullies SCT 4-Bank Chip Dyno Tuned Mac H-pipe Flowmaster Cat-Back Steeda Shifter Centerforce Clutch SLP-Line-Lock And more upgrades visually

07-16-2006, 08:53 PM	#19 (permalink)
zigzaggthefag321 Posts: n/a	I have searched a bunch....cant find a review of the Bilstein BTS system on a mustang....anyone else?

07-17-2006, 07:14 AM	#22 (permalink)
herndy_1 Red Six Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 559	Well lets see, $400 for an entire suspension. I could get some different springs later if I wanted more drop, and even if I had to get CC Plates, that would add about $350 for a grand total of $750. Not to mention if I sold the Bullitt springs. Anyone else wanna find a better deal? Anyone have pictures of the Bullitt suspension they could maybe post? Please? Finally, I know it seems like the cheap way out, but what about just getting lowering springs (maybe CC plates). I do however have 50 grand on my stock suspension, so I figure I would probably benefit more from the Bullitt? __________________

07-17-2006, 07:27 AM	#23 (permalink)
Lances03SVT Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Carthage, Missouri Posts: 9,247	I have just H&R sport's and love them.No CC plates needed either. __________________ _______________________ 2003 Cobra SOLD

07-17-2006, 09:05 AM	#24 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,445	The kinda person who would go with the bullit kit is more like someone who wants to keep a car with good springs weights for the drag strip still, But wants to lower the car down some without going so low that they cant make it up there driveway,road etc... Sounds to me like you just want to lower it down some for looks. You should look at the steeda sport springs they drop it 1.25" and need no c.c. plates and ride pretty nice with a slightly firmer ride feel. I have seen them sell used for as little as 70bucks. Then get some shocks and struts and your good to go. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

07-17-2006, 10:46 AM	#25 (permalink)
herndy_1 Red Six Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 559	if i got just springs, wouldn't the ride be pretty rough with my suspension having 50,000 miles on it? __________________